The new money pit

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Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:00 pm

Been out of the car-building scene for a while now, but I've been quietly yearning for a new project. Really wanted to something different from what I did before - want something that is a nice cruiser rather than something that shoves you back into the seat and scares fellow road users.

I quite by accident stumbled on this 1966 Mercedes Benz 230S on a plot on a dirt road halfway to Harties. Had a chat to the owner, and was invited to just come and fetch the heap. Gonna have to see what I can do in terms of getting it registered in my name before I start spending cash on it...

Had a look at the car, and it is pretty much complete. It is in an absolutely shocking state though. LOTS of rust on the doors (will have to see if they can be saved), and a fair amount of rust elsewhere. The interior is complete, but pretty much ruined by years of standing in the sun.

Now my plan is obviously to restore the car, and to keep it looking as close to original as possible. This objective is obviously going to be a difficult thing to achieve, as parts are going to be rather difficult to find. One piece that already worries me is a piece of chrome beading that runs on top of the right rear fender - looks like this is actually the only piece of beading I'm missing though.

Now here comes the real question - what to do with regards to the engine? The original engine is still in there (well, most of it anyways). 2.3l straight six twin carb. Now just after a brief inspection I already see problems on the horizon - all the couplings where the water pipes join on the engine are corroded to hell. All the pipes are perished. The carbs are going to need an overhaul; looks like the air cleaner isn’t complete; transmission might have issues too, as I see the clutch pedal is flat against the firewall. So I am pretty much of the opinion that it isn't going to make sense to fix that all up. So other options are to replace the engine with another Merc engine that actually has fuel injection and can run ULP. Somehow I think this is also going to lead to financial ruin at the end of the day with management and all the other bells and whistles. Now here's another option (and I’m leaning in this direction at this stage) - a Lexus V8 with Lexus auto box... Now I know this will make Merc aficionados cringe and howl in horror when they see this abomination, but this is not a car that will be entered in concourse events - this is just to be a nice, fun, smooth ride (me being a ballie and all)

This is going to be a rather long-term project - two reasons:
1. I hardly ever have a weekend at home
2. To my horror I found out I'm not part of the Oppenheimer family

Anyways - pictures...

Saw this poor thing left for dead behind a building among some bushes, crocodiles and bushmen

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Six cylinder powa! (once upon a time in a land far-far away :cry: )

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So I rented a trailer and went off to go fetch it. Never expected it to be as much work as it was. First I pulled it out of it's (almost final) resting place

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After lots of blood sweat, grumbles, mutters and outright cursing I finally got it to a spot to what was supposed to be the spot from where I could merely tow it up the hill and get it loaded. Had my 'Lux in low range, 4wd, diff locked and alles, but this car just didn't want to cooperate. All I succeeded in was digging 4 big holes at a time. Called it a day and towed the trailer back with nothing on it but dust.

After a plea for somebody to loan me some wheels, Sugar Bear put up his hand and loaned me some wheels that could hold air in the tyres. I went back to the Merc, armed with two trolley jacks, large socket set, bigass powerbar and two cans of Q20. I managed to get the drums and disks to turn again after liberal dosings of Q20 and more liberal addition of verbal encouragement (Kom ****** los, jou ********!!!), and put the inflated wheels on.

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Off to National trailer rental again, and back to fetch the car. Managed to get her loaded after a bit of a struggle, and brought her home

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I suppose now the real work starts. I suppose it would be best if I start at the bottom and work my way up. First get the suspension sorted out, then get her running, then rip everything out again before she goes for the bodywork. Upon her return the engine and transmission goes back in, then off to the upholsterers.

I must be a masochist :crazy:
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Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:17 pm

Nice project Andre. That v8 will definitely be a winner.

"I suppose now the real work starts. I suppose it would be best if I start at the bottom and work my way up. First get the suspension sorted out, then get her running, then rip everything out again before she goes for the bodywork. Upon her return the engine and transmission goes back in, then off to the upholsterers."

You make it sound so easy. Good luck with the project.
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Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:24 pm

I wish it was going to be that simple :lol:

This is going to be a beast of project - EVERYTHING must come off and get the treatment before it goes back in... So ja - this is going to take a long time...
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:44 am

Daai is nou vir jou n mooi fintail... Sterkte met die rebuild ek sal hierdie fret dop hou!
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:16 am

Ai meneer, daardie is my droomkar!!!

I just love the old Mercs, dad had a 1970 280SE - complete with leather, aircon, auto - the works - I think it was the W108 if I'm not mistaken. I still dread the sale of that vehicle, but when he sold it for R10k, I did not have enough appreciation for it to actually buy it...ook maar lekker stupid gewees!

Anyway, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE update us with photo's as you go along with this project, I might just make you an offer once you have completed the project!
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:24 am

You might be surprised to learn that Merc would be able to supply you virtually all of the parts needed!

Take the VIN number to your local dealer and be prepared to be schocked!
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:23 pm

what is the licensing status, was the yearly fees paid or has it accumulated interest ?
make sure you don't finish the car and someone come and claim it's his...
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:27 pm

I'm not spending a cent on this car until I have it on my name. Spoke to a helpful chap at the licensing department who will pull all the details on the car and tell me what needs to be done to get that done. Once that is done, work will commence
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Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:24 pm

Het hulle in '70 of '71 die eerste keer met brandstofinspuiting uitgekom?
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Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:25 am

Fantastic money pit that you have there... I would love to get my hands on one of those... Saw an old toppie in one of these in CT yesterday.. He looked like he was on top of the world.. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:35 am

Oh man those Ponton's are beautiful!

@ Pietpetoors - ek dink dit was vroeg 70's. Lyk egter asof ek 'n plek gekry het wat al die parte vir die enjin het, so ek kan dalk net dit regkry om die oorspronklike enjin te behou. Sal verkies om dit te doen want dan verhoog die herverkoop-waarde drasties
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Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:31 pm

Ai daai is nou ñ pragtige Mercedes!! Ek is mal oor die idee om so iets ñ tweede kans te gee. Ek het self ook ñ projek onder die afdak! As daai Mercedes enjin redbaar is sal hy net soveel meer spesiaal wees! Anders sit maar ñ 6.2lt V8 AMG enjin in!!!
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Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:42 pm

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Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:37 pm

Thys,

My Pa het so Ponton gerestureer, 1959/60 190D.

Het hom vir my oom in George gegee maar ek dink nou die kar is erens in die Kaap - ek sal bietjie uitvind.

Vir my matriek vakansie het ek en 'n pel hom van Welkom gery na George - van Colesberg af SONDER remme! Ja, ja, ons was jonk en onverskillig! Maar dis 'n laaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg storie vir 'n ander dag.
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Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:44 pm

Ek weet van twee ongesrestoureerde Pontons hier in Klerksdorp. Hulle word maar net gebêre vir onderdele. Die man het ñ gerestoureerde 190.
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Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:03 pm

Thabogrobler wrote:Maar dis 'n laaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg storie vir 'n ander dag.
More is 'n ander dag.. so jy kan maar begin vertel... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:42 pm

190......een eienaar...........mooi bly mooi.
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Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:47 pm

Is daar al vordering?
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Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:59 pm

Jissie Andre, dit lyk na 'n projek wat 'n lekker lang tyd gaan neem.
Alle sterkte daarmee :thumbup: :thumbup:

Wag in spanning om te sien hoe dit vorder :subscribed:
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Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:40 pm

Ja op die stadium staan alles nog stil - ek sukkel nog om die kar op my naam te kry

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Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:07 pm

Hiers my *72 230 gaan die hele kar oor spry . Het darm al die 450sec se limited slipp diff in met sy white walls en al .

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Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:30 am

Jinne dis darem maar mooi daai

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Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:13 am

Ek het nog baie om te leer as dit by engines kom, maar is daai 'n supercharger op die 8 prop of is dit
net sy air intake?
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:22 am

Intake manifold.
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:07 am

zepplin wrote:Intake manifold.
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Fanks, soos ek se, ek moet nog baie leer!!
Ken nie eintlik V8's nie
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:00 am

Andre . Asb sit nog kiekies op van die binnekant . Groot asb . Is dit n w108 . As dit nie vir twee 2 liter 16v corsa ldv's is nie . Gaan ons maar vir Mercs . Kannie wag om hom op die skidpad te sien nie .

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4x4BEES wrote:Ek het nog baie om te leer as dit by engines kom, maar is daai 'n supercharger op die 8 prop of is dit
net sy air intake?
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:27 pm

:slap: :slap: :slap:

Dankie :blushing: :blushing:
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