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I started a test with a 1 meter LED strip with 3mm LEDs. That is the 3528 LED strip with 60 LEDs per meter

Last year I bought a 12V 102Ah High Cycle battery on the forum. I have not used it yet so I am not sure what the condition is, so I am taking a bit of a gamble here because the battery is already a year old.

What I read on the Internet, the high cycle battery charge and discharge more or less at the same rate as your normal car battery. So whatever result I get here you will get better on your deep cycle battery.

Today I took 1 metre strip and connected it to this battery.
I switched it on at 09h40 on Monday 24 Jan.
The battery measured 12.59 Volt after I switched it on.
I do not have a light meter to measure the lumins, but I do have an old photography light meter with which i took a measurement. This will at least give as a relative measurement to see how much the light went down.

I will try and take measurements every 12 hours and post it here.

So we started off with:
12.59 Volt
17 - light meter reading at 300mm from the strip.

I hope that the light will still be luminous by the weekend, so let's see what happens.
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Pieter,

Are these LED's form Eastern or European origin? I remember when we sourced for the casino the Fong kong types did not last too long, but then again ours would run 24/7 with DMX controllers to drive them.
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These are Chinese ones. Even with the Chinese models you get good quality and worse quality.

Would be interesting to know what the price difference is between the European and China models?
How do you know the European guys don't sell you China models which they imported to Europe?
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24 hours later, pictures taken at 09h38 on Tuesday 25 Jan 2011
You will see Volts is down to 12.50 Volt and the lightmeter went down from just over 17 to just under 17.
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Many people asked about the temperature of the LED. I measured the temp this morning and after it has been running for 25 hours non stop the LED is at 28 degrees Celsius.
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Interesting, will be watching closely!
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pietpetoors wrote:These are Chinese ones. Even with the Chinese models you get good quality and worse quality.

Would be interesting to know what the price difference is between the European and China models?
How do you know the European guys don't sell you China models which they imported to Europe?
It was mostly Decaled (from the Netherlands), controllers were Decaled, around R160 for 100mm strip, but that was RGB andcould also be daisy chained to make up the length rquired, so basically you mix the colour you want via the controller. Smaller applications we used Osram, R300 for 450mm strip, green & blue strips were cheaper.
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I did my test late today because it is a bit hectic round here.
I took the readings at 10h42, an hour late.

So after 49 hours :
Voltage at 12.41 Volt and
Light - just under 17.

It seems as if the exact direction of the light meter influence the reading as today's reading is more or less the same as yesterday's.
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Interesting!

How many milliamps does the strip draw?

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According to the specs the 3mm LED are 300 mA per meter and the 5mm LED are 700 mA per meter. I am currently testing 1 meter of the 3mm LED
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Chris met my beperkte kennis van elektrisiteit en batterye het ek gedink as die battery 102 Ah is dan sal dit dan seker 14 dae, of tewel 340 uur, neem om die battery heel pap te maak met die 300mA strook. Ek wil hom nie heel pap maak nie, ek sal net graag wil sien of hy:
1. ten minste 7 dae aaneen kan werk
2. Na hoeveel uur gaan die battery te pap wees om die voertuig te start. Ek neem aan dit gaan wees wanneer hy onder 12 Volt val.
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Did you charge the battery full before starting? If it stood for a year, surely there would be some charge loss?
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pietpetoors wrote:2. Na hoeveel uur gaan die battery te pap wees om die voertuig te start. Ek neem aan dit gaan wees wanneer hy onder 12 Volt val.
Nie noodwendig nie, met die gewerkery aan my LTD se ligte het ek die battery plat gekarring tot 10.39V en hy het maklike gedraai daarna
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Mr B, Yes, when I put the battery charger on it showed that it was full but then I still left it on that trickle charging function for 12 hours to make sure. It is one of them brilliant fancy Benton chargers Eric sells.

Stefan, dankie, dan gaan die resulttate nog beter wees. Dan kan ek dalk kyk hoe lank hy vat om by 11 Volt te kom wat ook nog veilig kan wees.
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Stef wrote:
pietpetoors wrote:2. Na hoeveel uur gaan die battery te pap wees om die voertuig te start. Ek neem aan dit gaan wees wanneer hy onder 12 Volt val.
Nie noodwendig nie, met die gewerkery aan my LTD se ligte het ek die battery plat gekarring tot 10.39V en hy het maklike gedraai daarna
Maar hy was seker al lekker warm so hy het dan minder stroom getrek
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pietpetoors wrote:Chris met my beperkte kennis van elektrisiteit en batterye het ek gedink as die battery 102 Ah is dan sal dit dan seker 14 dae, of tewel 340 uur, neem om die battery heel pap te maak met die 300mA strook. Ek wil hom nie heel pap maak nie, ek sal net graag wil sien of hy:
1. ten minste 7 dae aaneen kan werk
2. Na hoeveel uur gaan die battery te pap wees om die voertuig te start. Ek neem aan dit gaan wees wanneer hy onder 12 Volt val.
Man, ek hou al hoe meer van hierdie goeters. Jou berekening is reg, maar jy gaan nie 'n vol 102 Ah uit die battery uit kry nie, want dis net die heel nuutstes wat jou soveel kapasiteit gaan gee, en ek dink mens moenie hom laer as 50% ontlaai nie, dan begin hy skade kry. Maar al werk hy net 5 dae aanmekaar, is dit nog steeds vrek goed, in vergelyking met enige iets anders. Ek gaan in elk geval nie die goed 5 dae aanmekaar laat skyn nie, sê 5 ure per aand maks, dan is dit 24 dae!!!

Sal sommer begin sonpanele in my huis sit met hierdie goed, en Eskom in sy *(@#&$^ stuur.

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Sal sommer begin sonpanele in my huis sit met hierdie goed, en Eskom in sy *(@#&$^ stuur.
Een van my kliënte in Pretoria doen presies dit, hy gebruik die 5mm LED strip en gebruik dit vir ligte in die huis. Hy koppel dit op batterye en sonpanele.
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Pieter, watter een sal in die huis beter werk, die wit of warm wit?
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Dit hang af waarvan jou vrou hou. Ek het gedink wit werk lekker toe deel my vrou my mee dat warm wit die eintlike een is.

Oor die algemeen dink ek in 'n werkspasie soos die kombuis wer wit beter en 'n plek waar jy atmosfeer wil hê soos sitkamer sal warm wit lekker werk. Ek het onder die kombuiskas bo die wasbak 'n warm wit strip gesit, as jy daar werk kry jy heeltyd daai gevoel dat die lig helder wit moes wees.

Van die groot 5mm LEDs het ek tans net helder wit en soos reeds genoem is die hele China nou toe vir vakansie
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Dankie Pieter, ek wil halogens in my kombuis onder die kaste met leds vervang. Moet net kyk wat die voltage van die bestaande transformers is, aangesien jy uit voorraad van die kleintjies is.
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Pieter, I guess you should stop the experiment when the battery discharges to 11v. The LEDs will still work, but the battery might not like going too far below this voltage.


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Thanks for the warning Eric, will stop at 11 Volt then.

I have a question and i am sure you clever oaks will have an answer.

We always keep the one bathroom light on during the night so Cathy can see where she goes when she gets up at night. I long ago changed the bulb with a 14w energy saver.

I see the Benton charger Eric sent me shows on the back it is 160 Watt.
I DO NOT know how long it will take to charge the battery.
Because the charger also uses energy to charge the battery, do you think that
if I rather use this battery with this strip to run during the night
that charging the battery once a week will use less energy than running the energy saver for 8 hours per day?

I know the energy we talk about here is probably 20 cents per month, but to me it is the principle of wasting energy by having the light on all night.
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pietpetoors wrote:Thanks for the warning Eric, will stop at 11 Volt then.

I have a question and i am sure you clever oaks will have an answer.

We always keep the one bathroom light on during the night so Cathy can see where she goes when she gets up at night. I long ago changed the bulb with a 14w energy saver.

I see the Benton charger Eric sent me shows on the back it is 160 Watt.
I DO NOT know how long it will take to charge the battery.
Because the charger also uses energy to charge the battery, do you think that
if I rather use this battery with this strip to run during the night
that charging the battery once a week will use less energy than running the energy saver for 8 hours per day?


I know the energy we talk about here is probably 20 cents per month, but to me it is the principle of wasting energy by having the light on all night.
Pieter, the 14w Watt uses a lot more power than the LED.

Why not place a small battery 12v like you bought a while ago, connect a small say 5watt solar panel on the roof, and forget about it....prob. for ever :thumbup: Running of a LED light (strip or bulb)
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Mark, ek het daai gedoen met die strip onder die kas, bo die wasbak innie kombuis. Daar is nie 'n kragpunt nie en sit toe sommer een van daai Alarm gel batterye in die kas. Sal eendag klein solar panel buite teen die muur sit. Is nou al 'n week en het nog nie nodig gehad om hom te laai nie.
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Maak net seker die solar panel het 'n ingeboude regulator 12v :thumbup: Of apart :!:

Ek het 'n klein panel en agter het hy 'n ingeboude regulator, hy werk :thumbup:
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Today's test results:
Reading taken at 09h43 on 27 Jan 2007.
After 72 hours of non stop operation the readings are:
Volts = 12.32 Volts
Light = Just under 17 again
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I am leaving for Cape Town so i had to take today's readings two hours early.
The reading was taken at 07h26.

Volts after 94 hours:
Down to 12.23 Volt
Lightmeter still just under 17

Seems like the volts are dropping much faster now than during the first two days.
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Today I took the reading at 10h00
After 120 hours and 20 minutes of continuous operation the values are:
Volts: 12.12 Volt
Light meter still under 17
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That's quite impressive so far, and there should be more than enough charge in the battery to start a motor. If one uses light for an average of 5 hrs each night and you run two of those strips, your 120 hrs (plus) so far would have given a camper 12 nights already on one battery without charging. That's not bad! :thumbup:

Imagine what kind of energy saving could be achieved if there were domestic LED lamps instead of the 'energy savers' and normal incandescent type! :think:
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Imagine if you do this with a deep cycle battery. Is there anybody who do not currently use there deep cycle battery who would like to do the test? I will sponsor the 1 meter LED strip
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Test Results for Sunday 30 Jan
After 144 hours the readings are:
Volts: 12.02 Volt
Lightmeter still just below 17.
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Ek het my strips Saterdag gekry, en ek is baie beïndruk. (Thx Piet)

Ek het altyd die goedkoop 12V buisligte wat mens by Game en Midas koop gebruik vir lig om die kampplek, maar die goed is maar flou en hou net so lank. Verkeerde polariteit is ook sy dood.

So 'n paar jaar terug het ek oorgeslaan na die nuwe 11 Watt 220 V buisliggies wat ek in 'n Powerade bottel gesit het wat van my inverter af loop, genoeg lig maar ek worry altyd oor wat gebeur as die inverter sou oppak, en die goed is ook maar maklik breekbaar.

Ek het nou die LED strip om 'n ou 12 v buislig se plastiek buis geplak in 'n spiraal vorm, nie so sterk soos die 220 V buislig nie, maar baie beter as die 12 buislig. Pas nog beter in 'n Powerade bottel. Heeltemal voldoende vir kamp, en teen baie minder kragverbruik, so my batterye sal baie langer hou.

Die goed is rerig baie "versatile", sal nog so 'n paar bestel. Die pryse moet nou net val.........

Sal later 'n prentjie opsit.

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Pick me !!Ek het 'n 110a/h Deep Cycle wat ek kan gebruik
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Dankie Chris, ons wag vir daai prentjies

Tertius, het jy 'n multimeter en sal jy een maal per dag 'n lesing kan neem
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Ek het 'n Digital Multimeter en kan lesing vat eenkeer per dag
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OK, jy is die gelukkig wenner, PM vir my jou posadres
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OK, was late again today.
Only took the reading at 10h28

After 168 hours and 50 minutes this was the reading:
Volts - 11.91
Lightmeter is lower than previous day, still between 16 and 17
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nog steeds impressive
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I will stop my test now.
Conclusion:
After 168 hours and 50 minutes of continuous operation of a 1 meter waterproof LED Strip with 60 LEDs/meter (3mm LEDs 3528) volts dropped from 12.59 V to 11.91 V . 11.91V should still be enough to start your vehicle.
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OK
I am now the tester of the LED's
I am testing on a 110a/h DEEP CYCLE Battery that was fully charged with my Hawkins Charger.
The first reading was taken at 19:30
First the reading with no lights, 13.02V
The second reading is with lights 12.95V
I will take the readings at 05:30 in the mornings
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What LED's and how many / how long?
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Hey Andy, same as what Pieter was using, 1 meter waterproof LED Strip with 60 LEDs/meter (3mm LEDs 3528)
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It is the exact same one as what I used
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Thanks .... that will make for a good battery comparison. The light meter isn't necessary as we could see that it dropped very little throughout Pieter's test. :thumbup: ;-)
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Interesting, i see the voltage dropped quite a bit from last night to this morning, i suspect it has to do with the fact that the charger was on the battery up to when i connected the lights and did the first test, maybe residual voltage.
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This morning the Voltmeter is sitting at 12.47V (i checked it 3 times)
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Ja, might be, with mine I removed the charger about 12 hours before I connected the strip, not deliberately but because I was busy with other things.
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Pieter this is interesting, read this thread now for the first time.

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Traveler wrote:Pieter this is interesting, read this thread now for the first time.

I need some more LED's, so guess where I'll buy.
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Morning All
This morning we are sitting at 13.7V
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tersmit wrote:Morning All
This morning we are sitting at 13.7V
T,

I have a suspision that you might've done this in your sleep?
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johangr wrote:
tersmit wrote:Morning All
This morning we are sitting at 13.7V
T,

I have a suspision that you might've done this in your sleep?
Hmmmm.... Me too! ....13.7v? :D:
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I attribute this error to not having coffee yet !
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Hehehe ...... Thanks for the reminder .... I'm due for another cuppa. :wink:
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Mud Dog wrote:Hehehe ...... Thanks for the reminder .... I'm due for another cuppa. :wink:
Just had a double shot espresso !!
Now i am good for the next hour or two !
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Pieter, how much are those led's. I am thinking about getting a few for my camping trips and also when Eskom switch off their power.
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You guys really make me worry.... :lol:

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Thanks Mark
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Great test Pieter :thumbup:

I completed my installation in the canopy and the kitchen on Monday (2 x 500mm in the canopy and 2 x 500mm in the kitchen) they work brilliantly.

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