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Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:02 pm**

Family_Dog wrote:Cassie, I wonder if your antenna and/or cable & connector is not giving problems? Did you perhaps try the following:

* Swap your microphone with another GX300 for a test
* Swap the radio complete with another one for a test?

Otherwise, you will either have to come visit me or post the radio to me so that we can check it out for you.

-F_D

Thanks Eric but we seemed to have sorted the problem. I picked up the power from cables inside the cab on the first installation. Although these wires could supply enough current and voltage, it seemed like it introduced some sort of electric noise on the unit. Saturday morning I quickly ran a pair of wires directly from the battery and voila!!!

SO... I ripped that wires out again yesterday (no fuse on the line) and will be installing a nice pair wires (fused) to the radio.

Next step is to come and see you bout a VHF radio

What I actually meant with the one way comm's is guess who did the most of the talking

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:44 pm**

Eric still looking for a bear pic?

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Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:43 pm**

Thanks, getr and Cassie - much better!

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:54 pm**

Scorpion wrote:Thanks, getr and Cassie - much better!

Ek smaak jou Avatar kwaai :)

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:06 pm**

CasKru wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Thanks, getr and Cassie - much better!
Ek smaak jou Avatar kwaai :)

Ek ook!

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:01 pm**

So who stuffed up Johann's animated avatar? It took a lot of trouble to jippo the system to load such a big image :evil: :evil:

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:04 pm**

BenHur wrote:So who stuffed up Johann's animated avatar? It took a lot of trouble to jippo the system to load such a big image :evil: :evil:

Ek het hom kleiner gemaak en dit lyk beter!

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:12 pm**

Ag oukay man ek het gedink die groot beertjie pas by 'n groot lux

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:39 pm**

BenHur wrote:Ag oukay man ek het gedink die groot beertjie pas by 'n groot lux

Dan lyk dit of hy probeer compensate vir iets

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:49 pm**

CasKru wrote:
BenHur wrote:Ag oukay man ek het gedink die groot beertjie pas by 'n groot lux
Dan lyk dit of hy probeer compensate vir iets

Ag erken dit jy het hom perongeluk gedelete en kon hom toe nie weer terug kry nie

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:14 pm**

Nope.... al wat ek weet is ons het omtrent op dieselfde tyd hom verander (so binne 5 min van mekaar)

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:24 pm**

Nee boet ek het al die groot ene gisteraand gelaai nadat Gert die pic gepost het. Jou local cache op jou browser speel trieks met jou

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:43 pm**

Nou is die subject ook sommer reg

Die radio ding kom buitendien nie van die grond af nie.....

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:44 pm**

SuidWes wrote:Nou is die subject ook sommer reg Die radio ding kom buitendien nie van die grond af nie.....

Ek soek nog een...

JOHANN

Posted: **Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:17 pm**

SuidWes wrote:Nou is die subject ook sommer reg Die radio ding kom buitendien nie van die grond af nie.....

Ek mag dalk binnekort gou deur ry Klerksdorp toe, to go and see a man about a radio

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:47 am**

Ek soek nog een...

Dis reg maar ons moet eers vir die lisensies aansoek doen. Gaan myne sommer vandag doen

Jou weer vanoggend op Beyers Naude gesien - Groet jy nie

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:26 am**

SuidWes wrote:
Ek soek nog een...
Dis reg maar ons moet eers vir die lisensies aansoek doen. Gaan myne sommer vandag doen

Jou weer vanoggend op Beyers Naude gesien - Groet jy nie

Ek dink julle sal eers weer van af die 6de Apr kan aansoek doen. Die vrou wat die admin doen is op verlof op die oomblik as ek dit nie verkeerd het nie

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:31 am**

Dankie Cassie, sal maar solank die dinge bymekaar kry

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:33 am**

Sover ek weet (kan verkeerd wees) kan Eric vir jou 'n radio verskaf as jy kan bewys jy het aansoek gedoen vir 'n liksens...

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:42 am**

SuidWes wrote:
Ek soek nog een...
Dis reg maar ons moet eers vir die lisensies aansoek doen. Gaan myne sommer vandag doen

Jou weer vanoggend op Beyers Naude gesien - Groet jy nie

Sorry man! Ek is die laaste 2 dae so de hel in vir HP jy kan met my toor! Waar het jy by my verby gery?

Ek moet dan ook sommer aansoek doen. Wat het ek nodig?

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:16 pm**

Waar het jy by my verby gery?

Dink so net voor Cresta maar ek was in die platkar....

Ek sal so bietjie oplees en jou laat weet wat als nodig is, FD het 'n artikel daaroor gedoen :)

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:19 pm**

Jy het een ingevulde vorm nodig met die radio detail daarop, jou proof of payment en voila :)

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:22 pm**

CasKru wrote:Jy het een ingevulde vorm nodig met die radio detail daarop, :)

Waar kry ek dit?

CasKru wrote:jou proof of payment en voila :)

Waar doen ek dit?

Thanks vir die hulp!

Sorry, Jaco! Watse platkar het jy? Sal dan volgende keer probeer uitkyk!

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:46 pm**

Geen probleem, platkar is 'n blou polo....

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:56 pm**

Jaco

Ek like nie blou polos nie

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:26 pm**

Wil net gou weer die subject terug change.Eric,op watter frequensie gaan ons die VHV radios gebruik.Ek sien daar is twee radios met verskulende frequensies.

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:25 pm**

legend35 wrote:Wil net gou weer die subject terug change.Eric,op watter frequensie gaan ons die VHV radios gebruik.Ek sien daar is twee radios met verskulende frequensies.

Johan, ons beoog om die ORRA se frekwensies tegebruik. Ons is besig om 'n plan te maak dat hierdie forum lid word van die AAWDC om dit te doen. Hulle het net een frekwensie, maar dit is goedgekeur vir oorals in SA.

-F_D

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:45 pm**

Dankie Eric.Ek hoop ons kan gou oorgaan na VHF ,dan hoef ek nie n 29mhz te koop nie.

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:47 pm**

legend35 wrote:Dankie Eric.Ek hoop ons kan gou oorgaan na VHF ,dan hoef ek nie n 29mhz te koop nie.

Julle het nogal erg baie goed uit gemis daar by RDW. Ek kon die ander manne nie stil kry nie!

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:50 pm**

Dis hoekom ek so gou moontlik ook n radio wil kry.

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:54 pm**

legend35 wrote:Dis hoekom ek so gou moontlik ook n radio wil kry.

Jaco-hulle gaan nou 'n group buy doen... daar is nooit so 'n goeie tyd soos nou nie

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:00 pm**

legend35 wrote:Dankie Eric.Ek hoop ons kan gou oorgaan na VHF ,dan hoef ek nie n 29mhz te koop nie.

Nee wat ek vir een is happy met my 29 mhz.

Dit help nie net 3 of 4 ouens het VHF radios nie

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:01 pm**

BenHur wrote:
legend35 wrote:Dankie Eric.Ek hoop ons kan gou oorgaan na VHF ,dan hoef ek nie n 29mhz te koop nie.
Nee wat ek vir een is happy met my 29 mhz.

Dit help nie net 3 of 4 ouens het VHF radios nie

MAar net 3 of 4 ouens het 29Mhz gehad die naweek

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:05 pm**

Ja maar as net 3 of 4 ouens in ons area VHF radios het en twee gaan nie saam op die trip nie met wie gaan jy praat? Seeker maar die 3 of 4 van die baie wat 29mhz het en wel saam is.

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:14 pm**

BenHur wrote:Ja maar as net 3 of 4 ouens in ons area VHF radios het en twee gaan nie saam op die trip nie met wie gaan jy praat? Seeker maar die 3 of 4 van die baie wat 29mhz het en wel saam is.

Maar jy sien... wanneer ek nou die VHF ook in het... gaan ek twee keer meer kan praat

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:27 pm**

All my 4x4 buddies use 29mhz's, so I've followed the pack... bought that GME GX300 unit... getting it Monday...

B

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:32 pm**

snipes wrote:All my 4x4 buddies use 29mhz's, so I've followed the pack... bought that GME GX300 unit... getting it Monday...

B

Sound quality on the cheapy dragon is much better

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:42 pm**

The sound quality is fine with the right aerial, they don't work well with the compact aerials... we have 2 in use in our 4x4 group, Gareth installed it with the compact aerial, sound quality wasn't lekker, so he changed over to the long whip type, sound quality was much better...
and it's compact in terms of installation which is great!

B

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:50 pm**

Don't worry Britney I was Pulling Cassie's leg as his distorts all the time with long whip enol.

Got my SMS for the EFT thanks

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:04 pm**

It's certainly possible that his below par EFi installation is intefering with the radio!

B

Posted: **Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:08 pm**

Ha ha nope had the problem since his carbie days

Posted: **Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:27 am**

BenHur wrote:Don't worry Britney I was Pulling Cassie's leg as his distorts all the time with long whip enol.

Got my SMS for the EFT thanks

Hey tjom.... daai issie die radio se skuld nie... en so terloops... hy distort nie meer nie....

Posted: **Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:51 pm**

CasKru wrote:
BenHur wrote:Don't worry Britney I was Pulling Cassie's leg as his distorts all the time with long whip enol.

Got my SMS for the EFT thanks
Hey tjom.... daai issie die radio se skuld nie... en so terloops... hy distort nie meer nie....

Dis wat jy dink?

Hy distort nou net effe minder, ons kan al amper hoor wat jy sê

Posted: **Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:47 pm**

Hentey,

A while ago you asked me about the availability of Chargers for the Motorola P020 Portable Radio. My apologies, I was supposed to come back to you sooner, and now I can't find the original post.

I have four or five charger pockets for these radios, brand new, but without transformers. They require a 12V DC 15W supply, so I can order a suitable transformer for them, or you can also charge them directly from a car battery coupled to the charger pocket with a suitable jack.

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-F_D

Hentey,

The radios will be fine. The P020 was one of Motorola's smaller radios, destined for the Asian market, but they were sold here in 2002/2003 or thereabouts. As far as I remember, it uses a 7.5v battery of unknown capacity. We used to fit after-market batteries (not Motorola) which had a slightly longer operating life. I'll have a look for you tomorrow (when I'm at work) what charger options are available, but otherwise it's simple enough to make up a cigarette lighter type cable and just plug that into the charger.

Posted: **Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:50 am**

Surprise, Ivy kicks the bucket, and I got my licence, after a year of waiting.
Ron.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2009 12:02 pm**

Dag,
Dis interresant om te lees hoe elkeen n radio verskillend ervaar.Ek het gehoor dat ICAASA 29Mhz gaan stop in die volgende 5jaar of so(als net hoorse)Die rede is omdat die hele wereld op 27Mhz is en net S A op 29Mhz is.dis hoekom ek besluit het op 27Mhz.Ek het n VHF Midland,27Mhz Midland en n Kenwood Trunking radio in my bakkie.As ek met die VHF op simplex praat en met die 27Mhz dan het die 27 nog altyd verder gepraat as die VHF.Die verste wat ek met die 27Mhz al gepraat het was 48km met n 108 duim antenna op die N1 tussen PTA en Pietersburg waar die VHF so op 30-38km klaar raak.Ek het tans n mag mount op die 27 Mhz en ek praat nog met gerief tot op 35km selfs uit n gat uit.Ek het April 09 die 27Mhz gekoop vir R1213.98excl en n mag mount vir R199excl.Die Vhf het ek nou onlangs gekoop vir R2300 excl.Die trunking kan natuurlik vanaf Tzaneen tot in kaapastad praat maar dit kos net so onder die R500p/m.Hier is die specs van die Vhf net so vir interresantheid,Hys tot water en stof dug.
http://www.midland.co.za

Technical Specs deleted by Moderator. You may visit the Midland website to obtain these.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2009 12:34 pm**

Family_Dog wrote:Hentey,

A while ago you asked me about the availability of Chargers for the Motorola P020 Portable Radio. My apologies, I was supposed to come back to you sooner, and now I can't find the original post.

I have four or five charger pockets for these radios, brand new, but without transformers. They require a 12V DC 15W supply,

Sorry FD dirent see your reply,yes I will take 2 of those chargers so that I can charge the portable's in the car. Do you need xformers for them? I see that on the charger it is 230vac-12vdc or let me rather say a rectified dc.
CHARGER :Motorola ac/dc adaptor
part no PMLN4138A.

Hentey,

The radios will be fine. The P020 was one of Motorola's smaller radios, destined for the Asian market, but they were sold here in 2002/2003 or thereabouts. As far as I remember, it uses a 7.5v battery of unknown capacity. We used to fit after-market batteries (not Motorola) which had a slightly longer operating life. I'll have a look for you tomorrow (when I'm at work) what charger options are available, but otherwise it's simple enough to make up a cigarette lighter type cable and just plug that into the charger.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2009 2:09 pm**

In reference to Jaque's lengthy post above:

ICASA (not ICAASA) is certainly not concerned about the use of 29MHz AM radios in South Africa, although it is also true that only Australia & RSA seem to make use of the frequency. In reference to a 29MHz radio "nog altyd" outperforming a VHF radio, this is pure nonsense. VHF operates line of sight although we have, in fact achieved distances of 150km plus on two VHF 25w radios in the Transkei, but this is certainly not the norm and 30-40km is easily achievable on an open road, terrain conditions permitting. 27MHz AM radios sre limited to 4W (or 12W SSB) and are most susceptible to long-distance skips, but that is not the norm and nor can it be considered as always being obtainable. In fact, it is seldom obtainable and the norm here is 3-5km under good conditions. During electrical thunderstorms, even that is not achievable.

Midland radios are imported through Dirk Bothma in Senekal, coincidentally, Jaques is also from Senekal, and although it is a first class radio, I am sure Dirk would not approve of Jacques jumping in here and spamming the forum with the full technical details of his products. I am therefore removing the technical details, but Jacques is quite welcome to post a link to a website so that forumites may look up these specifications for themselves.

F_D
In a Moderating Mood.

Posted: **Tue May 12, 2009 5:23 pm**

Dag F D en ander forum lesers.
Ek sien nou ek het bietjie negatiewe aandag getrek met my stellings oor die radios wat ek in my bakkie gesit het en hoe ek dit ervaar as ek dit gebruik.Ek wil graag omverskoning vra as ek enige iemand ontstel het of as iemand voel dat ek uit plek uit was oor wat ek geskryf het.Dit was egter nie my motief gewees nie,so daarom weer vra ek omverskoning.Ek het die radios by Dirk gekoop met baie goeie diens ens.Ek wil my self nie slim hou met radios en dinge wat kan praat nie so ek los dit maar vir ouens wat weet waarvan hulle praat soos F D en ander ervare manne.Hoop nie enige iemand het dit wat ek gese het persoonlik opgevat nie.Groete aan almal.

Posted: **Tue May 12, 2009 5:39 pm**

Dont worry Jarques,you are more than welcome to speak your mind.Old F_D had a terable weekend,with no power,or hot water,so please forgive the guy.They say that every dog gets his day even a family dog gets it.Now please share your experience with other forum readers and stop being so sensitive.This is the place we all become family members.ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: **Tue May 12, 2009 9:02 pm**

Eric,the 27mhz,is it the old CB radios that we used with channel 21 as the emergency channel and with the side band channels up to 99 channels?

Posted: **Tue May 12, 2009 9:20 pm**

Johan, the CB radios on sale here in SA were modified American 40-channel units. The modification required was to limit the allowable channels from channel 19 (which was then regarded as the 'Calling Channel') to Channel 27, which was fondly referred to as the 'Uppers' or 'Lowers' channel, for SSB, although you could, of course, use SSB on any of the channels. CB's were good fun in the days when (and especially before!

) they were first legalised; many good friendships were formed and the guys had very good intentions even forming Clubs in most areas and donating a CB to the local Fire department for Emergency Services on channel 21, as you correctly state. That has fallen completely by the wayside now, which is a bit of a pity as it was useful and did indeed serve a purpose.

There are still CB's available as Jacques stated, but in general their use has all but faded out in favour of 29MHz - locally here in SA anyway. But CB is still very much on the go between Truckers in the USA and I somehow also feel it would have been a better option for SA rather than 29MHz. But then, 27MHz CB got completely out of control when the school kids of the time (probably half the forum members here...

) got hold of it and eventually killed the medium.

-F_D

Posted: **Tue May 12, 2009 9:42 pm**

Yip i must agree that i think the old CB radio was the best with a slightly longer distance than the 29mgz.

Which radio would be the better one to purchase in VHF. Would a hand held that transmits about the same as a 29mgz but you can use the field programmable mode but limited to distance or a fixed VHF that one cannot field program but gives a better distance. Remember if you have guys on the same freq on different outings about 30km apart that can talk over each other with base mounts but not with hand helds. I was amassed the other day in the rain i picked up a distance of 20km with hand helds

Which one is the best choice in VHF.

Posted: **Wed May 13, 2009 9:13 am**

Clarence, the VHF handheld radios all have pretty much the same characteristics, so you could look at any of the popular ones, i.e. Kenwood, Vertex, Icom, HYT TC610 (I don't like the other HYT models), Motorola and then lastly, but not least, the Kirisun PT3300 or PT4200 are both good value for money.

More details here: http://www.hilux4x4.co.za/shop/radios.php

-F_D

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 9:20 am**

Thanks Hentey,Hope there is a good Plumber in Klerksdorp to help F D out with hes hot water problem.

No heart feelings F D,keep well.

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 10:11 am**

On the subject of 27mhz or VHF...

On our recent Hessaquas trip the majority of the guys(6) had 27mhz radio, but of course there was a few of guys(3, 1 using a hand held unit) that had VHF units... we had 1 roaming VHF handheld as well... what we did was appoint a co-pilot as the VHF-27mhz relay person(Gareth has both radio's)... end result wasn't too bad... a bit of broken telephone of course... the relaying service was kept to important messages... not the jokes and funny stuff... this meant that 27mhz chaps had rip-roaring fun, while the VHF only guys were left out the loop!

My suggestion is buy the most popular unit(27mhz/VHF) between the friends you most travel/4x4 with first... then if you got the bucks to buy both... then hang why not...

The bottom line... travelling in convoy or crawling through obstacles... radio's make it so much more enjoyable!

B

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 6:20 pm**

Is the guys with VHF on the Orra freqency

Posted: **Fri May 15, 2009 10:22 pm**

Yep if that is the same as the 4wdcsa and i got the landcruiser club

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:45 am**

Kaspaas wrote:
Gertc wrote:1 radio sal doen. maar watter ene?
Jy koop die een wat die meeste van jou maatjies het. Dit help nie jy sit met 'n 29MHz radio in 'n groep ouens wat almal VHF radios het nie, en anders om. Tot op hede is meeste ouens wat ek ken en waarmee ek saamry almal op 29MHz, en daarom gaan ek nie nou VHF toe migrate sommer so nie. As die dag kom dat meer as die helfte van die ouens VHF gebruik dan sal ek ook oorskakel..

Sorry maar ek het nie die poll gesien nie.Iemand het vir my link gestuur en nou is ek ook by

Thys ek het die vraag op die Tierkloof post gevra en nou vra ek dit hier weer.Volgens die poll wil die meeste mense na VHF gaan.Ek het n VHF maar ek praat net myself.Nou is die vraag......As almal gaan wag tot die helfte na VHF migrate dan gaan ons lank wag.Dink julle nie dit is tyd dat die vrouens vir julle kersgeskenkies by uncle Eric koop nie.Kom nou manne van die diep Kaap,laat ons die radios aan die praat kry :!:

Posted: **Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:49 am**

I have both at the moment. If I can make a recommendation, don't even bother with a 29MHz. It will work perfect on a road convoy but as soon as you go off-road, things change.

VHF on the other hand

When I picked up my bakkie in Klerksdorp Monday last week, me and Eric talk a bit on the VHF radios while I was driving towards Jhb. I got as far as the other side of Stilfontein before we lost Comms and there were a lot of buildings and trees between us.

Also at the Rock Crawl the previous weekend, while I was on the Rock, I could speak to my wife at Moegatle lodge about 5km away and she was talking on a handheld VHF radio.

I bought the following items from Eric and I will really recommend them to anyone:
Kenwood TK-7100 (64ch VHF mobile in car)

Kirisun PT4200 (16ch VHF hand held)

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