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Sat May 03, 2014 10:40 am

I am looking after a friends Prado Colorado.It is a UK spec.He brought it into the country and is now registered in SA.
It has the KZ motor and is actually quit nice.Only have the 2 doors.
Me and Pieter was fiddling with the fog lights yesterday and I noticed the left tail lamp for the headlights is not working.
Today I took it out to replace bulb.I then saw there is not any bulbs or wiring for the headlight tail lamp.There is not even an opening to insert a bulb :confused:
My guess is that in the UK you just need one tail lamp when the head lights is on.
Is this legal in SA or do you have to have 2 tail lights?
Must say I found this quite strange from Toyota.The car is the GX spec that is the cheaper model,but still
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Sat May 03, 2014 11:05 am

R U sure that is the park light and not the fog lamp?
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Sat May 03, 2014 11:07 am

If it is registered in SA, it will have passed the roadworthy. so that would make it legal.
Our SA vehicles must have both lights working.

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Sat May 03, 2014 11:11 am

My dads prado had 1 reverse light. There was a lense for otherside but also no fittings etc. When we did roadworthy I remember the guy was very annoyed about it and we had to strip it to prove it had only 1. It made roadworthy.

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Sat May 03, 2014 11:17 am

george wrote: tail lamp for the headlights

headlight tail lamp
Errrr....me might be a tad stupid, but don't understand what you are talking about??? :?: :?: :?:
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Sat May 03, 2014 11:58 am

The lights in my Prado rear bumper are blanked off too.

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Sat May 03, 2014 12:35 pm

95 series Prado's have only one reverse light and one rear fog lamp the tail lamp and indicators are in the bumper came out like that so is legal. Have openend the holes in the top lenses and fitted light fittings for tail and stop lamps on the body much more visible

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Sat May 03, 2014 1:53 pm

MCHILUX wrote:95 series Prado's have only one reverse light and one rear fog lamp the tail lamp and indicators are in the bumper came out like that so is legal. Have openend the holes in the top lenses and fitted light fittings for tail and stop lamps on the body much more visible
Jan I think your right.Will check tonight.

What I meant was the tail lamps.The one that come on when the headlights are on.The Prado had a set in the bumper and then have the top lenses on the side which is a lot more visible than the bumper cluster.Will take a pic tonight
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Sat May 03, 2014 3:47 pm

+1 with mchilux

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Sun May 04, 2014 8:50 am

Like Jan said :thumbup:
I checked the lights in daylight and did not really saw the ones in the bumper.The fog light was one so I presumed only one tail light was working.So you have this nice big visible cluster with no bulbs.I see a mod in the future
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Sun May 04, 2014 9:33 am

That's just crazy! :crazy: Really, how much wopuld it add to the production cost of the vehicle to just connect a second reverse light and a second fog light .... particularly in relation to the overall cost of a vehicle that is supposed to be more on the luxury side of the scale. :roll:
Additionally, I would have thought it better to have the brake lights higher and the fog lights lower .... fog is less dense closer to the ground which is why front fog lamps are always placed low down or why one uses dips rather than brights when travelling in foggy conditions. The higher brake lights would give more visibily and practicality to what is an infinitely more regular function .... what if you're pulling a trailer - you'd be depending on the trailer lights which can often be problematic more many reasons, not least of which is if there's a poor connection at the hitch socket.

I think Toyota dropped the ball here. :eh:
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Mud Dog wrote:I think Toyota dropped the ball here. :eh:
No Andy you are wrong... That is Toyota watching the "bottom line" at the expense of the safety of their customers.... Several millions of Japanese Yens were saved in this way.. :banned: :banned:
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Mon May 05, 2014 2:13 pm

Is it like my Cruiser?

Its "molded shut", if you want to call it that. Someone told me its got to do with SA law, you have to be able to see the lights on both sides on a 45 degree angle, so the issue is the spare wheel. :?
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That could be an explanation. :think:
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Same on my Prado 90/95, 3.4 V6
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Dan bou die goed dan soos 'n Ford Fiesta sonder liggies bo. As ek by 'n robot kom ky ek na die lig cluster op die kar om te sie of hy stop of wil draai, dan werk dit nie! Hier onder op die grond op die bumper is daar iets, maar da te laat in daglig. Ek ek so voertuig sou koop sou ek dadelik ' plan maak om liggies te kry. Al is dit te veel, maar beter! Almal wat aftermarket bumpers op Hiluxe gesit het met liggies in die bumper het nie hul boonste liggies onkoppel nie! HUlle mag seker, siende die Pajero's en Prados so ry, selfs ook die Putco busse het nog minner.

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Rianc wrote:Dan bou die goed dan soos 'n Ford Fiesta sonder liggies bo. As ek by 'n robot kom ky ek na die lig cluster op die kar om te sie of hy stop of wil draai, dan werk dit nie! Hier onder op die grond op die bumper is daar iets, maar da te laat in daglig. Ek ek so voertuig sou koop sou ek dadelik ' plan maak om liggies te kry. Al is dit te veel, maar beter! Almal wat aftermarket bumpers op Hiluxe gesit het met liggies in die bumper het nie hul boonste liggies onkoppel nie! HUlle mag seker, siende die Pajero's en Prados so ry, selfs ook die Putco busse het nog minner.

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Jy mag dit doen, in my geval gaan ek maar plan maak, ek hoor jy kan die cluster koop by Toyota R2400 vir die een kant en R2600 vir die ander kant :o: :o: , BAIE duur, en hoekom die een duurder is weet ek nie. So ek sal plan maak met die wat ek het.

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Mon May 05, 2014 3:19 pm

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Daar moet 'n goedkoper opsie wees? Al die bedrading is mos reed daar, en Midas of Autozone verkoop sekerlik die konneksie bionette. Boor net 20mm of meer gat en plak dit vas in jou oorspronklike clusters?

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Mon May 05, 2014 3:21 pm

Jip dis die plan. Maar daar is ek gaan bitjie draad werk moet doen. Ook nie n probleem nie

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Sorg maar net dat alles, insluitend die cluster geaard is! Nog nooit op 'n Cruiser draad getrek nie, maar of die Fortuner haal jy basies die binneste side panels af, maak die cluster los en daars hy.

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Mon May 05, 2014 7:15 pm

Het in die week so n Cruiser se boonste ligte gekoppel jy moet net n 26mm gat in die middel van die plastiek boor en met n vyl die holtes vir die ligfittings maak . Die drade kan in die onderste ligte eenvoudig ingetap word en gesoldeer word moet dit net goed insoleer met heatshrink of insulation tape

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Tue May 06, 2014 7:48 am

MCHILUX wrote:Het in die week so n Cruiser se boonste ligte gekoppel jy moet net n 26mm gat in die middel van die plastiek boor en met n vyl die holtes vir die ligfittings maak . Die drade kan in die onderste ligte eenvoudig ingetap word en gesoldeer word moet dit net goed insoleer met heatshrink of insulation tape
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