Hilux 4x4 Forum

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:41 pm

Hello All,

Not a 4x4 owner yet...might own a 2003 3.0 KZTE 4x4 (all I can afford). looking at buying one with 136k Km for R149k. Still wanna haggle over the price as it has the 4x2 steel rims with crappy tyres & not the original alloys.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:51 pm

Hello Stefan and welcome to this forum!

Here's wishing you all the best in your aim to acquire a Hilux 4x4. There are quite a few available at very reasonable pirices here on the forum, especially the older SFA's which I dare say are a little tougher and more suited to rugged off-road appkications than the newer IFS models. I also think that you would be able to pick one up in pretty decent nick for about R55k .... leaving you more financial reserves for any repairs / upgrades. You may want to re-think which model you want to purchase.

Scorpion · Post by **Scorpion** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:56 pm

Welcome, welcome!

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:03 pm

Thanks!! See U R from EL; I lived in PE for 9 years, just moved back to GP 3 months ago (promotion, b4 U ask why)

My other half agreed to the 4x4 as long as it's a D/C; and must be facelift model or newer (contemplated an SFA pre- 2000 model) Have read all the topics on KZTE vs 2700i; only one I can get currently is 4x2. Can't buy it as 3d vehicle, will use it to work & back as well.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:36 pm

The KZ in the pic looks like it's in good nick, and I see you've more or less got your heart set on a later model DC Lux. Nothing wrong with that, but if this sale does'nt work out just keep on looking. Something suitable (the right deal) will come along.

You say you lived in PE for some time .... are you originally from GP then?

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:48 pm

Welcom to the forum, sure you find something suitable pretty soon

are you originally from GP then?

No Andy, originally from Transvaal!

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:03 pm

Hi Mark ...... I see you've had more than your fair share of coffee today already, smarty-pants!

andrevt · Post by **andrevt** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:32 pm

hi welcome from us here in the freestate

Post by **CasKru** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:35 pm

Hello Stefan. Welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy it here

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:40 pm

Mud Dog wrote:especially the older SFA's which I dare say are a little tougher and more suited to rugged off-road appkications than the newer IFS models.

Stef wrote:My other half agreed to the 4x4 as long as it's a D/C; and must be facelift model or newer (contemplated an SFA pre- 2000 model)

Stef nou hoe nou my ou, ek dag die hond waai die stert en nie anders om nie

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:43 pm

Spartan wrote:Stef nou hoe nou my ou, ek dag die hond waai die stert en nie anders om nie

@#$ swaer...weet jy hoe moeilik kan so 'n stert waai as hy vol dinges is?? :)

Mud Dog, Mark is right...I'm a Valie, & yes I like pap with my braaivleis !!

Anyway, grew up in Klerksdorp, studied @ Technicon Pretoria b4 it became a hooter (TUT), worked @ Morula Sun as Trainee tech & tech, then as Snr Tech & Statistician @ Boardwalk from 2000 - 2009, now back @ Morula as Technical Manager. Really miss PE though.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:43 am

Anyway, grew up in Klerksdorp,

As all nice people do... ;)

-F_D

Bosfebok · Post by **Bosfebok** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:12 am

Hi Stef

Welcome to the forum. I'm sure you will enjoy it here

Hope you find that dream lux soon.

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:19 pm

Man I'm now so the %!@# in :evil: :evil:
Idiots @ pre-owned Stars sold my KZTE to someone else and the girl tells me she didn't get my payslip attachment with my mail. Can she not pick up the phone????
I'll sommer buy a 98 petrol 4x4 & mod the hell out of it!!

Family Dog, if you read this, are there any facelift D/C's in Klerksdorp? Only saw 4x2's @ Speedy Car Sales, but they're nuts...

Bosfebok · Post by **Bosfebok** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:29 pm

Report hulle in Bad Service

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:50 pm

Bosfebok wrote:Report hulle in Bad Service

Ja nee, ons boertjies kla te min...Inspectacar is net so erg, eintlik arogant

Turbo · Post by **Turbo** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:12 pm

Stef,
Go look on http://www.carfind.co.za.
There are 57 D/C 4x4 Toyota Hilux's to choose from.

Good luck

DOELLOOS · Post by **DOELLOOS** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:43 pm

Koop 'n Nissan...

Scorpion · Post by **Scorpion** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:48 pm

V8 Interceptor wrote:Koop 'n Nissan...

Verneuk eerder jou vrou - minder moeilikeid...

Post by **Mud Dog** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:24 pm

Scorpion wrote:
V8 Interceptor wrote:Koop 'n Nissan...

Verneuk eerder jou vrou - minder moeilikeid...

YOH !!!

Post by **pietpetoors** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:57 pm

Did you check da JunkMail, saw this there
Pretoria:
Toyota Hilux KZ-TE D/C 4x4: 2002, Very good condition. Seat Covers, Canopy, Electric Windows, Dual Airbags, ABS, CD, Central Locking 215000km
Phone 082-4417291

TOYOTA HILUX 3. 0 KZ-TE 4x4: 2003. R139 900. MUST SEE, VERY GOOD COND. BARGAIN. FINANCE AVAILABLE! Trade-Ins Welcome. Joseph 071-6855739 / Patrick 071-6855742 / Frans 071-6855738 / Sfiso 071-6855733/Prince 072-9340238/Office 012-8002373
Phone 012-8002373

Jo'Burg
TOYOTA HI-LUX 3. 0 KZ-TE 4x4 DC :2003. White, 178000km, IMM, AL, CL, CD/R, PS, EW, Nudge bar, RBar, R/Bin. R. 140000 (Jhb) Tel. 083-2747305 or
Phone 011-4342222

Toyota Hilux kzte 4x4 d/c Leather interior, replacement bumper, bluetooth hands free radio, snorkel, 8500 lbs winch, high lift jack. BF Goodrich A/T 192000km. 2002 model R143. 000
Phone 083-6081090

See http://www.junkmail.co.za/searchResults ... ec=0&cat=0

warthog · Post by **warthog** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:07 pm

Andy, he's a lawyer, he can talk himself out of vrou-moeilikheid, but a Nissan doesn't listen.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:38 pm

Stef wrote:Man I'm now so the %!@# in :evil: :evil:
Idiots @ pre-owned Stars sold my KZTE to someone else and the girl tells me she didn't get my payslip attachment with my mail. Can she not pick up the phone????
I'll sommer buy a 98 petrol 4x4 & mod the hell out of it!!

Family Dog, if you read this, are there any facelift D/C's in Klerksdorp? Only saw 4x2's @ Speedy Car Sales, but they're nuts...

No, that new model hasn't reached us yet ;)

-F_D

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:33 pm

Tx guys,

Been trolling the net...haven't checked the jakmail yet, tx 4 the tips. Plenty 4x2's around. looking @ one this week, 2004 R132k private sale. Dealers are nuts, they're selling them 2004's for R149k. Saw a 2002 KZTE 4x2 at inspectacar again today for R144k, no wonder it hasn't sold!

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:08 pm

Family_Dog wrote:
Stef wrote:Man I'm now so the %!@# in :evil: :evil:
Idiots @ pre-owned Stars sold my KZTE to someone else and the girl tells me she didn't get my payslip attachment with my mail. Can she not pick up the phone????
I'll sommer buy a 98 petrol 4x4 & mod the hell out of it!!

Family Dog, if you read this, are there any facelift D/C's in Klerksdorp? Only saw 4x2's @ Speedy Car Sales, but they're nuts...
No, that new model hasn't reached us yet ;)

-F_D

Hey FD, look what I found in Klerksdorp! :o Bank repo, had winch with no bumper which they replaced; the tail section below the gate as well as the wheel mouldings have been resprayed. Fresh coat of rubber in the bin and new t/cover. R149950, 2003, 136000 km. Interior could have been better, scratches on centre console, fake leather on the sides of driver seat cracked. Front tyres brand new (firestones). No service history though

apparently Toyota confirmed that timing belt has been changed at 90 000 km.
Should I take it back to Pta tomorrow?

Edit : battling to attach pics,page times out b4 pics are uploaded. Will try when I have 3G coverage again.

Post by **pietpetoors** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:20 pm

Stef I see in the Auto trader is A 2003 4X4 KZ for R140,000, see http://search.autotrader.co.za/www/cars ... 5186469585

I am not sure what they go for but if I look at the prices in the junk mail and autotrader the price for the bank repo is not a huge bargain. Seems like a rather normal price if not a bit high perhaps. One would expect to buy a repo at least at its trade in value, you must get a good discount to make up for the risk you take since you do not know anything about the history of the vehicle.

Post by **pietpetoors** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:22 pm

I see there is one in Da Cape for R128,000
Toyota Hilux 4x4 KZTE 3 litre Diesel Double Cab Bakkie 2003. Leather Seats, ABS, Airbags, Aircon, Bull Bar, Carryboy Canopy, Snorkel, Electric Windows and Mirrors, BF Goodridge tyres 239000 kms Dark grey Great Vehicle
http://www.junkmail.co.za/v-capeads-cap ... EdQX201004

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:37 pm

Tx Piet will check it out, also thought R150k is a bit steep; trade is R119k Retail is R135K

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:00 pm

Here are the pics; dealer bought it at auction & did some work on it.

Piet, the autotrader one you suggested is a bit dodge, saw it at the dealer (Inspectacar), 250 000 km+; looks like it worked hard; I can get a 2004 KZTE 4x4 with 250k on clock for R149 950, body work also taken a beating though.

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:22 pm

Stef wrote:I'll sommer buy a 98 petrol 4x4 & mod the hell out of it!!

Daai is n goei idee

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:41 pm

Spartan wrote:
Stef wrote:I'll sommer buy a 98 petrol 4x4 & mod the hell out of it!!
Daai is n goei idee

As long as it's an SFA!

Post by **pietpetoors** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:37 pm

On the photo it does not look too bad. After you looked at so many you must trust your gut feeling.

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:12 pm

My gut is a little upset right now

Bit concerned 'bout the service history, worst case I'd need a new engine(not sure what it costs (Holden motor import +- R18k). But then again, cars with service histories also fail.

It certainly drives ok; drove it in 4H for a bit; no issues with locking/unlocking the hubs. Clutch is smooth. Felt like the handbrake was on in 4H ie didn't freewheel forward down the pavement in neutral where in 2H it would??
Couldn't feel the turbo kicking in , felt definite torque between 2000 -3000 rpm though; previous one I drove had a definite threshold where one could feel the turbo start to work, not sure if that is what is referred to as turbo lag, or maybe they upped the boost a bit ? Anyhow , this one has a much smoother "torque curve". Never owned a diesel vehicle b4 so any comments welcome

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:15 pm

Mud Dog wrote:As long as it's an SFA!

Jip dit is hoe dit moet wees

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:06 pm

Welkom Stef, patience is a virtue nê :shifty:

Believe me the right Lux will come along nou nou and you'll be pleased that you waited

In the meantime keep reading the Forum and you'll keep your appetite

R

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:29 pm

Dankie Dadz Toy...

Went ahead & bought the the KZ in the pics; took delivery today.

Got the 2 yr mechanical warranty; sort of required with the finance
Everything seem to be going right, purred beautifully on 120Km/h @ 2600rpm on the highway; plenty power, no funny vibrations and then I discovered...a cd shuttle!!

Will post some more Pics in members' rides

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:39 pm

Congrats Stefan, the KZ is a great motor

Looking forward to the pics and hearing what plans you have for your 1st Adventure

Bloues · Post by **Bloues** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:35 am

welcome !!!!!

Scorpion · Post by **Scorpion** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:10 am

Stef wrote: Went ahead & bought the the KZ in the pics; took delivery today.

Now you're cruizing! Congratulations!

Post by **Family_Dog** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:56 am

Shot, Stef!

-F_D

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:39 am

Congratulations!!

..... now when are you going to join the Hilux Club!??

http://www.hiluxclub.co.za/

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:02 pm

:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10594

Johan Fourie · Post by **Johan Fourie** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:32 pm

Hi All - although I have extensive 4x4 driving experiece thanks to the old SA Weermag, I now use my Hilux mostly to tow my ski boat. Would like to access some friends who can help with some parts for my 1985 Hilux 2.2 Petrol 4x4. Steering wheel and ash tray (I am a non-smoker). Have been driving numerous Hiluxes but this one is special. Secondly - I need to replace the engine with a more powerfull diesel - but I do not want to cut the engine mountings - please suggest what I could use. If all these questions should not be dealt with here - please point me in the right direction. If you see me on the beach in Vidal, Sodwana or the lower Moz areas - keep this post in mind and come get a beer. Friendship is a good thing. Thanks a milllion. Johan Fourie

Scorpion · Post by **Scorpion** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:54 pm

Hi, Johan!

And welcome to the best forum by far!

Tell us a bit more about yourself and post some pics. And then why, oh why, would you want a diesel!

Rather put in a Lexus V8 or 7MGE.

Anyway, enjoy!

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:05 pm

Hi Johan, and welcome!

I have no idea which diesel would be the better option, (not clued up on diesels at all) .... the old 2.4 was considered to be bullet proof, but as I understand, would be too sluggish. As for the engine mounts, I'm almost certain you would have to replace them for the heavier diesel motor. Nonetheless there are enough diesel fanatics here that can give you more meaningful advice / feedback. Enjoy the forum!

DOELLOOS · Post by **DOELLOOS** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:15 pm

Bennie, gee bietjie advies hier oor watter diesel hy moet gebruik...

Johan Fourie · Post by **Johan Fourie** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:45 pm

Hi all Experts (all Hilux fans) - I will put in any Toyota engine that will do the job. I heard that I can give the current engine more oemf by putting a Weber on - it has a Maus branch system on at the moment. I do not need speed. If I can toe at 80 km p/h I'm happy. But the power to do beach work is important. I do not use the vehicle that often as I work in Africa but when I am home for the 3 weeks rotasion leave I use it a lot - so not worried to even stick in a V6 or V8. Would like to stay with genuine Toyota parts if at all possible.
Would'nt a Lexus V8 be very expensive?

As soon as I get the hang of the forum I will post some photos of my Hilux trokkie.

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:51 pm

Johan Fourie wrote:Hi all Experts (all Hilux fans) - I will put in any Toyota engine that will do the job. I heard that I can give the current engine more oemf by putting a Weber on - it has a Maus branch system on at the moment. I do not need speed. If I can toe at 80 km p/h I'm happy. But the power to do beach work is important. I do not use the vehicle that often as I work in Africa but when I am home for the 3 weeks rotasion leave I use it a lot - so not worried to even stick in a V6 or V8. Would like to stay with genuine Toyota parts if at all possible.
Would'nt a Lexus V8 be very expensive?

As soon as I get the hang of the forum I will post some photos of my Hilux trokkie.

Sounds like you need some Efi dude

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:58 pm

Johan, why did you say specifically a diesel motor ..... a petrol motor will generally deliver more power over the rev range. From the sound of it you will be wanting to tow in the sand (a boat perhaps)? The 2.2 is a little sluggish and not a good towing option on the open road, although in the sand with donkey gear it more than holds it's own. Perhaps the EFI route is a fair option, least disruptive and more affordable than a motor conversion, but if you're set on a lot more power, the 2.7i (3RZ) might be a better choice .... motors are pricey but still an easy conversion. To go the 'full hog' fit a Lexus V8 ... probably the most pricey of all because of all the other mods that have to be done to accommodate and handle that motor .... bell-housing / gearbox / propshafts / diffs and axles / radiator / body lift / etc. etc. ....not to speak of fuel consumption and all the little niggly issues that would need to still be sorted after the conversion is complete. The slow and humble and reliable 4Y with it's low end torque has been a admiral power plant, absolutely no doubt, but they are no longer in production by Toyota and one wonders for how long quality spares will still be available. Personally I would go with the 2.7i .... but that's just me.

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:15 pm

Johan Fourie wrote:Would like to stay with genuine Toyota parts if at all possible.

Ek het n conversion gedoen en net genuine original Toyota parte gebruik

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:26 pm

Jaco, hoe is jou brandstof verbruik? .... The 7MGE / 1JZ / 2JZ might even be better overall options than the Lexus, but that long six has to be fitted with a shoehorn .... radiator / radiator hoses and motor peripherals are also a tight squeeze.

.... and then there's the water on the plugs issue!

I still like a motor with a bit of space when I work on it .... my hands aren't as dexterous as they used to be ..... and I like a place to put my beer down close by without it being in the way!

Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:47 pm

Mud Dog wrote:2JZ might even be better overall options than the Lexus

Die 2JZ GE kom uit die Lexus GS 300, Ek kry so net oor die 9 km/l, sal nou sien met die VVT-i engine wat maak hy op die sous, dit is moeilik om kalm te ry met daai ding want hy trek so lekker. Neewat daar is baie plek om te werk as jy moet, maar dit is nie nodig om so baie onder die bonnet te wees nie want daai ding het nie pynne nie. Ek dink ek maak die bonnet meer oop agv ouens wat wil sien as om aan hom te werk, kan nie onthou dat dit al ooit nodig was nie, ek moes al die battery vervang het en dis dit.