ORRA Radio Which one......... IT'S HERE

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:21 pm

Ok here it is....

I have decided on getting a radio but have a little problem....
Handheld

Fitted

Which one

Handheld gives you the fredom to be away from the vehicle and still be in radio contact......

BUT can be misplaced or stolen easier......

Fitted is always with you and no flat battery......

What are your thoughts and comments.......

I need advice to make the decision.....

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:28 pm

Get the fitted one.......if you're outside the vehicle, so will the other manne be then you can just talk to each other!!!!!!

Or get both!!

Post by **CasKru** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:30 pm

I have both but prefer to use the mobile unit as it's louder and better range. But it is also more expensive

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:54 pm

If I had to choose between the two, it would without a doubt be a fixed radio

Cleaner · Post by **Cleaner** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:14 pm

I also had that question. What I did was to get the Mobile/Fitted unit for now, and later I'll get some handhelds.

At this stage the radio is just for my self and for my use, but later I'll get another set of handhelds for people that will drive with me.

(Besides, the truck looks cooler with the Antenna than you with a handheld

)

ChrisF · Post by **ChrisF** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:16 pm

also have both, the fitted one is better (for a number of reasons)

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:20 pm

CasKru wrote:I have both but prefer to use the mobile unit as it's louder and better range. But it is also more expensive

Thats just bragging......

Cleaner wrote:(Besides, the truck looks cooler with the Antenna than you with a handheld )

True that it does.....

OOOOMS wrote:If I had to choose between the two, it would without a doubt be a fixed radio

Well it seems like we have a winner..... A fitted unit it will be.......
Now to get the money and the licence......
Sure hope it doesn't take to long............

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:35 pm

Johno, I am considering selling my Kirisun PT8000. They cost new R1920 and I will charge R1400 for it.

If you are interested let me know

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:53 pm

pietpetoors wrote:Johno, I am considering selling my Kirisun PT8000. They cost new R1920 and I will charge R1400 for it.

If you are interested let me know

First off pic please....

Why would you be selling it? Upgrading?

I was seriously thinking about the Kenwood TK7160 from Eric its such a bargain.......

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:08 pm

I was seriously thinking about the Kenwood TK7160 from Eric its such a bargain......

That is what I am upgrading to.

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:18 pm

pietpetoors wrote:That is what I am upgrading to.

O right so you saying i have chosen a gr8 radio??

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:23 pm

Yes you have.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:32 pm

And you will need an arial.....don't forget

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:04 pm

with the righ spring and you have to trim your arial according to the chart, about 450mm

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:16 pm

pietpetoors wrote:with the righ spring and you have to trim your arial according to the chart, about 450mm

According to what chart??

Post by **CasKru** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:21 pm

MOFASA wrote:
pietpetoors wrote:with the righ spring and you have to trim your arial according to the chart, about 450mm

According to what chart??

The person programming you will "tune" the antenna to the frequency

Post by **Royco** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:26 pm

Does that tuning need to be done with the antenna mounted on the vehicle?
Or can it be done in the factory. How specific is it? 449mm or 451mm would that matter?

Post by **CasKru** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:41 pm

Royco wrote:Does that tuning need to be done with the antenna mounted on the vehicle?
Or can it be done in the factory. How specific is it? 449mm or 451mm would that matter?

It depends on the type of antenna and the frequencies. It is quite specific but they are usually trimmed to allow for some leverage. In your example the frequency difference would be in the region of 1MHz. Some quarter wave antennas can handle frequency differences of about 3MHz either way of the tuned frequency

The antenna performs optimal at a specific frequency to which it is tuned thus giving you the optimal range.

If you antenna is not tune in the range you are using, you will damage your radio as you will get reflected power.

Signal Wave Ratio is a term used when tuning the antenna. We ideally want a 1:1 ratio but values up to 1:1.5 is acceptable but not ideal.

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:38 pm

pietpetoors wrote:Johno, I am considering selling my Kirisun PT8000. They cost new R1920 and I will charge R1400 for it.

If you are interested let me know

If Johno doesn't take, I know a good home

Post by **Family_Dog** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:21 am

Guys, don't worry - we will pre-tune the antenna for you. The antennas have a bandwidth of 10MHz, which allows for plenty of leeway. Ideally, we would tune it for ORRA 1 & 2 (the "new* ORRA frequencies and you should only use these frequencies in future and never the old ORRA frequency, which is now moved to channel 3 & channel 7. But at this stage there will be a requirement to use this frequency to communicate with older radios that have not yet be tuned for the new ORRA channels.

More info here:
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-F_D

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:06 am

Just a small correction Eric... the old ORRA frequency is now on 1,5,7 & 8

Post by **Royco** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:14 am

CasKru wrote:Just a small correction Eric... the old ORRA frequency is now on 5,6 & 7

OK, now I'm confused... according to an EXCELLENT source, this is what I understood:

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Source:
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Which means the new channels are 1,5,7,8 ?

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:29 am

Royco wrote:
CasKru wrote:Just a small correction Eric... the old ORRA frequency is now on 5,6 & 7
OK, now I'm confused... according to an EXCELLENT source, this is what I understood:
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Source:
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Which means the new channels are 1,5,7,8 ?

No reason to be confused. Lets say the original ORRA frequency is 123MHz and the second one they got is 130MHz. The setup previously was like this:
Ch1 123MHz no tone
Ch2 123MHz with tone
Ch3 130MHz no tone
Ch4 130MHz with tone

Now that ORRA received the 3rd frequency, let's say 132MHz, they have decided to reshuffel the channels and make the two newer frequencies the main channels. The structure is now like this:
Ch1 130MHz Tone1 (Old Ch4)
Ch2 132MHz Tone1
Ch3 130MHz Tone2
Ch4 132MHz Tone2
Ch5 123MHz Tone1 (Old Ch2)
Ch6 123MHz Tone2
Ch7 123MHz no tone (Old Ch1)
Ch8 130MHz no tone (Old Ch3)

Hope this helps.
PS: Those are not the actual frequencies. They have been changed to protect the innocent

Post by **Royco** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:38 am

Ah,

you (and Eric) are talking FREQUENCIES, which don't mean much to me - as I don't know them.
I refer to the channels, which I can understand.

So OLD CH4 may (or may not) be able to communicate with NEW CH1 - depending on what tone was used.

Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:49 am

Exactly, last night I tested my radio, I was on new channel 7 and Johannes from the sea on old channel 1 , or something
It will create chaos so the quicker we reprogram all radios the better.

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:01 am

Royco wrote:Ah, you (and Eric) are talking FREQUENCIES, which don't mean much to me - as I don't know them.
I refer to the channels, which I can understand.
So OLD CH4 may (or may not) be able to communicate with NEW CH1 - depending on what tone was used.

Sorry Roy.... please check my chart above again.. I've added some information that will make it clearer.. I hope

Post by **Royco** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:04 am

Thanks!
I agree with Pieter, the sooner everyone get's their radio's tuned to the new frequencies, the better!!

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:23 am

This might make it a bit easier
[orra][/orra]

Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:35 am

Thanx Casper, or more simplified:
Old 1 = New 7
Old 2 = New 5
Old 3 = New 8
Old 4 = New 1

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:26 am

Donkey wrote:If Johno doesn't take, I know a good home

Ok i have done it..... Ordered a radio from Eric complete with antenna...

So DONKEY that Kirisun PT8000 radio is all yours....

Question.... This tuning thing....
Once i get my radio and install it, can it be used right away or will i have to pay someone to "tune" it.............

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:32 am

MOFASA wrote:
Donkey wrote:If Johno doesn't take, I know a good home
Ok i have done it..... Ordered a radio from Eric complete with antenna...
So DONKEY that Kirisun PT8000 radio is all yours....

Question.... This tuning thing....
Once i get my radio and install it, can it be used right away or will i have to pay someone to "tune" it.............

Yours will come pre-programmed by Eric

Plug and play style

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:12 am

OK NOW THIS COULD BE A DUMB QUESTION

I have filled out the online ORRA Licence form but cant save it so how do you email it to ORRA with proof of club membership?????????????

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:13 am

CasKru wrote:Yours will come pre-programmed by Eric

Plug and play style

Cant wait.......

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:17 am

MOFASA wrote:OK NOW THIS COULD BE A DUMB QUESTION

I have filled out the online ORRA Licence form but cant save it so how do you email it to ORRA with proof of club membership?????????????

Are you sure... I can save and print my form?

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:51 am

CasKru wrote:Are you sure... I can save and print my form?
Orra.JPG

So have you fixed it yet????

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:57 am

MOFASA wrote:
CasKru wrote:Are you sure... I can save and print my form?
Orra.JPG

So have you fixed it yet????

:shifty:

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:01 pm

THIS IS IT :!: :!: :!:

Kenwood TK7160
All thanks to Eric.....
MAGIC service and all questions answered promptly.....
I will recommend anyone looking for a radio to use Eric, Family-Dog, from REPCOM

Cant wait to get it

Then to see where its gonna fit.....

Still its gonna be a good addition to YODA....

Post by **Family_Dog** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:45 pm

It's on its way..............!!

-F_D

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:48 pm

MOFASA wrote:THIS IS IT :!: :!: :!:

Kenwood TK7160
All thanks to Eric.....
MAGIC service and all questions answered promptly.....
I will recommend anyone looking for a radio to use Eric, Family-Dog, from REPCOM

Cant wait to get it
Then to see where its gonna fit.....

Still its gonna be a good addition to YODA....

Mooi man

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:03 pm

An aerial question.

I want to fit one to repulse, but do not want to drill holes in the body..... Cannot afford the diamond tip dril required for the thick steel.

What other ways of fitting without drilling?

Post by **Family_Dog** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:16 pm

Bull bar? We have bonnet mounts and gutter mounts - does Repulse have gutters in the roof? We also have glass mount for windscreens, but your very best antenna mount is one smack-bang in the middle of the roof. The higher the antenna is mounted, the better your radio range.

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-F_D

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:21 pm

Thanks F_D.

Guttermount shall be perfect. I'll order and pay tomorrow.

PS. I need new antenna as well.

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:25 pm

MOFASA wrote:
Donkey wrote:If Johno doesn't take, I know a good home
Ok i have done it..... Ordered a radio from Eric complete with antenna...
So DONKEY that Kirisun PT8000 radio is all yours....

Question.... This tuning thing....
Once i get my radio and install it, can it be used right away or will i have to pay someone to "tune" it.............

Thanks buddy

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:32 pm

ITS HERE

Dam and it looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better in person compared to the pic......

Now YODA has ears to the world outside.....

Post by **Royco** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:35 pm

Congrats Johno!

So now the next question... WHERE are you going to mount it

Ali3n · Post by **Ali3n** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:37 pm

Congrads!!!

Looking good!!!

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:40 pm

Royco wrote:Congrats Johno!
So now the next question... WHERE are you going to mount it

Thanks

Ummmmmm in da bakkie.....

Have some ideas now its just to see where it looks best and the most practical.....

If you guys & gals have any ideas let me know.......

Was thinking of an interior roof mount...... But that means i'll have to design an entire roof linine consol.....

Might do that later......

Ali3n wrote:Congrads!!!

Thanks

Looking good!!!

Post by **Family_Dog** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:00 pm

Johno, I called the Staff to come see the radio that was in their own very hands just yesterday - Patsy (Parcel Packer!) was delighted and Jankie (Workshop Manager) just smiled. I told Patsy she had forgotten to pack the Microphone (Hey - this *has* happened!) but she pointed to the box and said "Daar's sy!!".

Please take note of those extra notes I sent you - in fact, I will post them somewhere on the forum too.

Thanks for your order and I know you will put the radio to excellent use! :)

-F_D

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:16 pm

Lekke Johno... and by the way... sorry (you will later what this is for...

)

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:24 pm

Except maybe for a roof console... according to me this is the best spot...

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:03 pm

Family_Dog wrote:Johno, I called the Staff to come see the radio that was in their own very hands just yesterday - Patsy (Parcel Packer!) was delighted and Jankie (Workshop Manager) just smiled. I told Patsy she had forgotten to pack the Microphone (Hey - this *has* happened!) but she pointed to the box and said "Daar's sy!!".

Please take note of those extra notes I sent you - in fact, I will post them somewhere on the forum too.

Thanks for your order and I know you will put the radio to excellent use! :)

-F_D

Wish i could have seen her face

Its an absolute PLEASURE doing business with you and i will be getting a handheld sometime in the future, so keep me in mind when it comes to the specials please.....

CasKru wrote:Lekke Johno... and by the way... sorry (you will later what this is for... )

Hmmmmm do i need to

I will see if my NEW radio fits where you say........

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:22 pm

Nice Johno.....now you and G are in-touch

Very nice radio btw!!!

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:24 pm

Just as a note... the brackets I used there was sprayed after I took that photo...

Post by **Royco** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:27 pm

CasKru wrote:Just as a note... the brackets I used there was sprayed after I took that photo...

I was wondering if that was a before or after foto!
So you sprayed it full of mud after this foto!!

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:34 pm

Royco wrote:
CasKru wrote:Just as a note... the brackets I used there was sprayed after I took that photo...
I was wondering if that was a before or after foto!
So you sprayed it full of mud after this foto!!

:shifty: :shifty: :shifty:
Indeed... removed them, cleaned the radio (had one or two drops of mud on it) and cleaned and resprayed the brackets again.

They are black in colour. I'm working on a quick release bracket so I can use the radio in my house as well for the radio amateur stuff

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:36 pm

Royco wrote:
CasKru wrote:Just as a note... the brackets I used there was sprayed after I took that photo...
I was wondering if that was a before or after foto!
So you sprayed it full of mud after this foto!!

OOOOMS wrote:Nice Johno.....now you and G are in-touch

Very nice radio btw!!!

Thats it now we getting there......
Thanks 000OMS

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:47 pm

Just a reminder...now your insurance premium in going to double.....

Post by **Family_Dog** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:49 pm

CasKru wrote:
They are black in colour. I'm working on a quick release bracket so I can use the radio in my house as well for the radio amateur stuff

Cassie, you know this is not going to work! Grab one of those TK7160 radios while I still have stock - Kenwood has no more and we are down now to about 35 models left...

Just think - 128 channels at your fingertips!

-F_D

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:56 pm

Family_Dog wrote:
CasKru wrote:
They are black in colour. I'm working on a quick release bracket so I can use the radio in my house as well for the radio amateur stuff

Cassie, you know this is not going to work! Grab one of those TK7160 radios while I still have stock - Kenwood has no more and we are down now to about 35 models left...

Just think - 128 channels at your fingertips!

-F_D

I wish Eric.. but my budget dictates my plans

Need to by this antenna as well.

Post by **Royco** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:00 pm

So with that aerial, would I be able to contact you on the NEW orra1 or OLD orra1 ?
PS - I'm in the Western Cape... 1500km