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Hallo almal. Ek het al voorheen genoem dat ek beter brandstofverbruik kry met Sasol. Vir die afgelope klompie maande het ek weer net met ander "brands" gery. Defnitief weer om en by 6 kilometer per liter gekry en die bakkie het nie krag gehad nie, kon nie 'n lang opdraende in 5de rat uitry nie. Het nou weer begin om SASOL in te gooi - kry so 1.5 klios meer uit op 'n liter en die bakkie ry lang opdraende lag-lag uit in 5de rat uit. Sasol is nie volop soos die ander "brands" nie maar ek het besluit om moeite te doen en sal ry na Sasol garage wat uit my pad is, net om Sasol te kan ingooi.
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sjoe dis n groot verskil. jou bakkie is petrol ? gooi jy 93 of 95 in ?
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Ecc 1:9 Wat gewees het, dit sal daar weer wees; en wat gebeur het, dit sal weer gebeur, en daar is glad niks nuuts onder die son nie.
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I use Sasol 50ppm diesel only! But that's cause I get 5% back in cash with ABSA rewards!
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Wonder if we really get SASOL in Cape Town ....

I KNOW all other brands get their fuel from the only and only refinery in the Cape .....
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All fuel companies share there depots TOTAL and engen work together a lot BP and Sasol also share depots. The only difference in the fuel you buy at different petrol companies is the additives that they add to the trucks before they send them out to tip up the garages. Otherwise the fuel is exactly the same. For us in Guateng the fuel comes from Durban via the petro net pipeline. So Dowe Koos it is the additives that make the difference
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Ja Quinten, ek hoor jou. Baie jare terug toe ek nog die 84 SFA gehad het, het ek sonder vrag 7 kilos 'n liter gekry en met vrag 5 kilos. Dit was nog met die ou 18R enjin. Ek kom eendag by 'n spesialis uit wat my carb gemodify het en gesê dat ek net SASOL moet gebruik. Sonder vrag 9.4 kilos 'n liter en met vrag 8.6 kilos. Dit was ook in die jare toe jy by elke garage 'n Sasol pomp kon kry. Sover dit my kennis strek is die petrol by Sasol geniune SASOL petrol. Sal weer bietjie navorsing doen om seker te maak. Chow.
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Interessant. Sal bietjie die Sasol 95 probeer op die 2.7.

Wat ek wel ondervind het, en hoekom ek tot dusver Sasol soos pes vermy het is dat die 50ppm diesel vir my baie swakker kilos gee op die KZ om een of ander rede. En dit was nie net op een geleentheid nie. Het dit herhaaldelik beleef oor die jare met die KZ, tot ek Sasol afgeskryf het.
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Hennie ek is besig met n project by een van die BP depots en glo my daai blou Sasol trokke maak almal daar vol.
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Maak hulle vol of LAAI HULLE AF. :lmao: :laugh2:
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Maak vol die petrol kom met die pyplyn
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Obelix and Dogmatix wrote:Hennie ek is besig met n project by een van die BP depots en glo my daai blou Sasol trokke maak almal daar vol.
het ook n projek of twee gehad by die plaaslike rafinadery .... dan staan AL die "brands" in n lyn om brandstof te kry ...


soos voorheen gesê - slegs die bymiddels wat verskil.



Sekerlik is daar n area langs die mynhope wat regte egte SASOL kry .... twyfel net sterk of ons ooit daai regte SASOL hier by die see sal kry ...
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Many years back when I still did work for the Royal Dutch Shell Company, I was told that the fuel companies had agreements whereby one would refine for all the others in country A while another would refine in country B and so on, so that there was no need for refinery duplication in each different country, thus saving massive expenses. At that time Shell refined for the whole of RSA.

Of course this would logically apply only to international companies, so Sasol would be an exception unless they had an individual agreement with Shell. If not, I would assume that they have their own distribution network.

Maybe someone here knows more about the current set up. :think:
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Many moons back we spoke of the Cape Town based refinery as the "Caltex tanks".

Over time it became Chevron.

Read last year that they now want to sell it, as the exchange rate is eating away at their profitability ...
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As far as I know that they all use same fuel and even the tankers carry their own branding so a tanker can fill different brand filling stations.However the Sasol mix has some concern with injector failure as some of the manufacturers have noticed that coastal vehicles injectors last twice as long.? would like to see some clarification.
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ChrisF wrote:Many moons back we spoke of the Cape Town based refinery as the "Caltex tanks".

Over time it became Chevron.

Read last year that they now want to sell it, as the exchange rate is eating away at their profitability ...
Chevron has been trying to sell that refinery for ages but the plant is so out dated that no one wants to buy it ie would be cheaper to build a new one. Chevron actually wants to pull out of Africa but the refinery is what is keeping it here.

Caltex is the africa name for chevron in the bad old days
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Mud Dog wrote:Many years back when I still did work for the Royal Dutch Shell Company, I was told that the fuel companies had agreements whereby one would refine for all the others in country A while another would refine in country B and so on, so that there was no need for refinery duplication in each different country, thus saving massive expenses. At that time Shell refined for the whole of RSA.

Of course this would logically apply only to international companies, so Sasol would be an exception unless they had an individual agreement with Shell. If not, I would assume that they have their own distribution network.

Maybe someone here knows more about the current set up. :think:

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Hallo Quinten, het gisteraand vir een van die groot base 'n brief geskryf oor hierdie aangeleentheid. As ek na drie weke niks hoor van hulle nie, dan neem ek aan Sasol is nie wat hy moet wees nie. Andersin kyk ons maar of hulle gaan terug antwoord. Sal julle laat weet.
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Obelix and Dogmatix wrote:
ChrisF wrote:Many moons back we spoke of the Cape Town based refinery as the "Caltex tanks".

Over time it became Chevron.

Read last year that they now want to sell it, as the exchange rate is eating away at their profitability ...
Chevron has been trying to sell that refinery for ages but the plant is so out dated that no one wants to buy it ie would be cheaper to build a new one. Chevron actually wants to pull out of Africa but the refinery is what is keeping it here.

Caltex is the africa name for chevron in the bad old days
about 20 years back there was a CLEAR distance between "Caltex" and the residential areas ....

no more.


If they did a MHI assesment today the blast radius surely would take out a few nearby buildings ....


not to mention that dreadful smell that always hangs around it. CANT be good for the health of the people living there ....


The refinery should be relocated to Saldanha - wonder if this port can handle the large oil tankers ???


now imagine all the back hands in making such a deal come to life .....
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Chris the port of saldanha would be able to handle those tankers as one of south Africa strategic oil reserves is currently located between langebaan and Vredenburg and is currently being extended to increase our oil reserves. But the cost of moving or building a new refinery would be the problem. Does the west coast not have enough pollutants with saldanha steel and namakwa sands as well as the iron ore jetty throwing it's red dust all over the show?
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Off Toti they pump the oil and do not come into the harbor.
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Is this not the modern era where "we" want the perks of the industrial era, as long as the polutants are the problem of the "other guy" ....


sadly one needs to take a drive through Saldanha to SEE what polutants are !!!

even the living plants are rusting ....



sadly we are trashing the planet ....


sorry, going slightly off topic
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I lead you in that direction. And yet I worked on both namakwa one and two.
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Quentin and yet the technology DO exist for these industries to emit much less "emissions" .... but the "bottom line" remains the driver ....


Part of my day job is air conditioning .... IRKS me when clients (developers) are driven by the bottom line. Sure, I do understand the mathematics of business. BUT, we are in an era where the extra capital layout today CAN be recovered in energy savings in a reasonable time frame. It IS now possible to have 10 or 15 year budget and still come out ahead while using energy efficient solutions.

BUT, that reasoning falls by the way side when the developer is not the end user .... Developer looks at profit right now, and the end user destroys the planet ....


We have SANS204 - Energy Efficiency Regulations ..... and though the intent is good, it does not address the real problems .....

Stopping a home owner from adding one more sliding door is not the answer. "forcing" developers to embrace systemic solutions, now here we can start saving the planet ...
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ChrisF wrote:Quentin and yet the technology DO exist for these industries to emit much less "emissions" .... but the "bottom line" remains the driver ....


Part of my day job is air conditioning .... IRKS me when clients (developers) are driven by the bottom line. Sure, I do understand the mathematics of business. BUT, we are in an era where the extra capital layout today CAN be recovered in energy savings in a reasonable time frame. It IS now possible to have 10 or 15 year budget and still come out ahead while using energy efficient solutions.

BUT, that reasoning falls by the way side when the developer is not the end user .... ##### Developer looks at profit right now, and the end user destroys the planet....#####


We have SANS204 - Energy Efficiency Regulations ..... and though the intent is good, it does not address the real problems .....

Stopping a home owner from adding one more sliding door is not the answer. "forcing" developers to embrace systemic solutions, now here we can start saving the planet ...
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Hennie daar is al meer mense in die industrie met die benadering.

Universiteit Stellenbosch het selfs nou n Meesters Graag in hernubare energie. Daar is al meer briljante mense daar buite met puik idees.


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Nouja Quinten, drie weke later nog niks van Sasol gehoor nie. So jou stelling mag dalk waar wees dat soos ander brands hulle petrol by dieselfde depots kry. Watter additives Sasol ookal ingooi dink ek maak dat ek beter brandstof verbruik kry as met ander brands.
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Dowe Koos wrote:Nouja Quinten, drie weke later nog niks van Sasol gehoor nie. So jou stelling mag dalk waar wees dat soos ander brands hulle petrol by dieselfde depots kry. Watter additives Sasol ookal ingooi dink ek maak dat ek beter brandstof verbruik kry as met ander brands.
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as jy REGTIG wil weet of daar n verskil is - laat mamma die tenk volmaak, en sy mag nie sê waar nie .... na so paar tenks mag die resultate baie interessant wees .... :shock2: :crazy: :siffler:


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Yes...it is true.
All our petrol lays in the same tanks and pipes before it goes to the various distributors and outlets.
This is just before each company adds their own dirty little secret doepas and muties called 'additives'.
The only question is with what and by how much? :blink:
Well..it's almost as with ouma's secret milktart recipe..we don't really know.
There is also a legal industry standard that they have to abide to as by with what and by how much.

And this is maybe the reason (I Think) why Sasol goes the extra mile as reported here by the forum members.

It's because they might be throwing in less additives!! :shock2:

You see...theres one thing and one thing only that gives petrol it's 'bang'..
..and that is the hydrocarbons in it. (A large amount of about 95%)
There's also other (small amounts) of key compounds as to the composition of petrol and they are
(If I can remeber correctly) stuff like hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen and sulphur.
And then there's a few trace elements and/or metals making up a very small percentage of the petrol composition.

So there we have it. If we now can do the 1+1 thing..
..the more 'additives' they put in...the less carbon stays behind that gives us wooma. :shock2:

And does the 'Techron' in Caltex really clean our engines?
Well..we all know that even water can do that. It's easy to see where that top gasket leaked engine coolant
if we yank off the head. The piston with the leaking water will be all bright and shiny and clean.

And the V-power in Shell?
Nothing, Nada, Zigolo. It's marketing strategy.. :siffler:

So once again I ask the question..
Might it not make viable financial sense if we add cheaper than untreated fuel 'additives' that saves us 3c/litre
on a sale of a billion litres / annum?
Jeez..with that kind of Randelas.. each fuel coy share holder can buy his own Nkandla.. :twisted:
This is where I'm going to call halt on this subject. I think you get the picture. :angel:

93/95 Octane petrol?

Hell..now this is a different story on it's own that can become a very looooooooong post/reply. :surrender:
But in short..
The octane indicator in petrol has got nothing to do with the amount of 'bang'
that you get out of your very expensive juices at the petrol station.

They raise the octane in petrol with (once again I'm posting under correction)..with ethanol.
Reason?
Here goes..

"The amount of octane in petrol is related to the level of spontanious combustion that will occur under a certain amount of pressure."

This is a fenomenum that we are all very well accustomed to called "Ping"

Ping is not good. We don't want that. No no no. :naah:
Having a piston being forced downwards BTDC and the rest of the engine forcing it in the opposite direction..
No. Not good at all. Provides huge amounts of unnecessarily stresses and creating all sorts of problems..

So..
Better bang for your buck with 95?
..Unfortunately not.
Better clean burn with less carbon buildup and and and and and...with 95?
Once again..Unfortunately not so.
If your Lux is happy with 93..then use that and buy your lovely wife a bunch of flowers with the savings. :laugh2:
If the manual says use 95...then use that.
Maybe a weeeeeee little bit better after TDC if the engine is put under load in the lower rev range
prohibiting ping at higher pressures...but we're talking very small amounts here.
(Almost like a R10 at a cafe these days...net 'n hoessie en 'n poep dans dit klaar!) :lmao:

So all in all short end of the story here is: the more carbon you have in your tank.. the further youl'll go.
It's that simple. :cooldude:

Hope this shed some light.
Pse do correct or add or anything.

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Hallo almal, dis weer ek met my Sasol. Het die naweek gery met my bike, BMW 800 GS, van Pretoria na Baberton, 335 kilometer - kry toe 21,6 kilos op 'n liter, natuurlik met Sasol. Maak vol by BP in Baberton en toe moes ek weer volmaak by Middelburg Shell, wat kry ek toe - 17 kilos 'n liter. Hier is die bewys nou weer - Sasol is TOPS.
Ecc 1:9 Wat gewees het, dit sal daar weer wees; en wat gebeur het, dit sal weer gebeur, en daar is glad niks nuuts onder die son nie.
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Hennie tyd vir "double blind" toets ..

Twee jerry kanne vol petrol - een met Sasol en een van n ander "brand". Laat iemand anders die twee kanne vol maak - so jy weet NIE wat is in watter kan nie.


Drein die fiets se tenk, maak vol uit een kan, ry leeg
Maak vol uit die ander kan en ry leeg.


Nou weet jy NIE watter trip het watter petrol gehad nie .. so jy kan nie jou ry-styl aanpas om n sekere uitkoms te bereik nie, nie eens onbewustelik nie.

As jy die brandstof verbruik vir alby kanne het, vra dan die persoon watter kan het die sasol in ....
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Hennie thanks vir die thread, ek het 'n Sasol oppad huis toe, sal bietjie daar gaan volmaak....maar ek moet se, ek weet nie of daai 2700 van my NOG ligter op juice kan wees nie.
Ek gooi 93 in......is dit verkeerd, moet ek maar 95 vat??
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Hallo Chris, my bike was so te sê leeg toe ek Sasol ingegooi het. Ek was so beindruk gewees met die brandstof verbruik dat ek eintlik vergeet het dat ek Sasol ingegooi het. By Baberton gooi ek toe BP in waar die tenk ook so te sê leeg was en op Middelburg toe ek weer volmaak onthou ek eers dat ek Sasol ingegooi het die vorige dag. Ek sal daardie proefneming doen, maar glo vas Sasol sal wen.
Hallo Petri, ek het eers vir lank 93 ingegooi omdat dit goedkoper was maar het altyd gekla oor die hoë brandstof verbruik. Op 'n dag besluit ek dat ek 95 moet ingooi en kon dadelik sien ek kom bietjie verder met 95 as met 93. In 2015 besluit ek toe maar om Sasol 95 te probeer en toe van daaraf gebruik ek net Sasol. verskil van 93 na ander brads se 95 na Sasol 95 is soos gevolg - 6 kilos 'n liter na 6.4 kilos na 7.2 kilos. 95 is duurder maar jy kom verder daarmee as 93. Probeer jouself en laat weet wat kry jy.
Ecc 1:9 Wat gewees het, dit sal daar weer wees; en wat gebeur het, dit sal weer gebeur, en daar is glad niks nuuts onder die son nie.
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Hennie, ek was gou Hennenman toe en terug. Het die Hilux volgemaak op 1117 km op die tenk (so te se leeg), 8,79 km per liter op daai Sasol 95 gekry. Ek het nou weer (moes) met Shell 95 volmaak op Senekal.

So.........Sasol is definitief sover die ligste, ek het op een lang trip 8,4 gekry, toe 6,6 (BAIE swaar sleep), toe het Ma 8,6 gekry, en nou ek weer 8,8. :shock2:

Weet ook nie of ek my verbeel nadat ek jou comments gelees het nie, maar dis asof die Lux beter teen opdraandes trek.

Ek sal beslis weer Sasol 95 gooi waar moontlik.
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Ja Petri, brandstof verbruik baie beter as enige ander maak en is baie sterker teen opdraende. Sien joune doen beter as myne.
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Die rafinaderye verwerk ru-olie na 'hydrocarbons", Sasol doen dieselfde uit steenkool. Natref, Sapref en Engen pomp die produkte na Secunda waar dit geblend word met ander produkte om petrol te lewer. Almal laai by Sasol on voeg hul eie bietjie doepa by, maar ek weet wragtag nie of daai liter op 'n petrol tenker enige verskil kan maak nie.
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Ja Koos, almal praat van selfde depots, selfde petrol maar dat elke brand sy bymiddel insit. Maar die feit van die saak is dat ek defnitief beter brandstof verbruik kry met Sasol en Petri het dit vandag weer bevestig. Nog beter as myne.
Ecc 1:9 Wat gewees het, dit sal daar weer wees; en wat gebeur het, dit sal weer gebeur, en daar is glad niks nuuts onder die son nie.
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Sal interessant wees as mens fisies kon toets, bv hoe ver ry jy met presies 10 liter brandstof teen presies selfde spoed, selfde kar, selfde drywer, ens ens.

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Hennie, sien die 2 nuwe Sasol garages daar by Rainbow Junction is oop (Onderstepoort pad)
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