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Being out in nature you just canot help taking photographs. All of us aren't professional photographers so don't be shy to show of your pictures here. Ask questions on how to improve your photography or what camera to buy. Somebody will be able to assist you.
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:32 pm

Okay so I have had a stream of visitors since 25th November... and for 3 days I have some me time before my house is swamped again.. and had a bit of time to get some shots in and spend some time behind my computer... ie of course while Francisco was screaming like a girl and Riana was driving like a superstar.... Well done Riana...

Made my way down the road to the beach on a very overcast, fairly windfree day... which of course has been rare recently.. Was'nt too sure that there would be enough light coming through the clouds to get anything worthwhile... but I had got up at 4.30am to get the shots, so I was going to try my best.. Some old guy that walks the beach early every morning was'nt convinced the light was strong enough to get any shots... he almost convinced me of that much initially, anyway I was up and dressed and was'nt going to be able to go back to sleep anyway..
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I noticed that there was some nice reflections coming through as the water recedeed, so zoomed in closer to get the reflections
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Facing the other direction, very soft light
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and then I decided to pump the image up a bit on the computer
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The tide was coming in and I liked the effect of the wave breaking over the pipe, just had to wait for a small break in the clouds for some light and the wave to break over the pipe at the same time
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I'm still a sucker for black and white and having spent most of my time working in black and white film, still see lots of images in black and white in my mind...
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Wanted to capture the effect of the water as it broke against the pipe
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Thought there was good texture and colour contrast for it to work in Black and white
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:46 pm

Okay so as I said, the light was very soft so some of the photo's had an almost natural monotone to them...
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so then totally monotone...
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okay and of course with software available to pump it up..
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That evening the clouds had moved on, the wind had increased somewhat, almost enough to blow my tripod over with my camera on it... but I'm not a fairweather camper either..
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and then after a bit of work on the computer...
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and a lot later the sun was really low in the sky, much slower shutter speeds, and about the time I wished I had brought the dogs down to the beach with me, because it was pretty isolated...
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I softened the image a bit on the computer to get a slightly more silky effect
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And then last of all, in black and white
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In spite of the fact that I have lost that awesome colour, loved the contrast in the shot....
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:53 pm

Nicely done there Val....
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Awsome pics from a very talented Lady.Thanks for sharing them with us.
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:49 pm

Val VERY nice !!


Your post editing - Lightroom or Photoshop, or both ?? Would love to put pic 2 (and a few others) through Photoshop - make a duplicate layer ... dark gloomy clouds on the one, bring out the light in the sand and water in the other, then use the gradient filter to blend this lot ....

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Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:13 pm

Go big Chris....Programme, CS5 with lots of added plugins....
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:24 pm

I take it you used the Mk3 for these. It is just EXCELLENT in low light. :)

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Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:07 pm

Actually, no Chris, still the 7D... Still just messing around with the MK3, testing the functions and focus settings on the before I shoot freely with it.... mostly use a tripod and remote switch for low light shots for landscapes so can get them pretty sharp with minimum camera shake on the 7D... Yes I believe that the 5D is very impressive in low light... Still ploughing through the instruction manual and testing the functions and settings. I know, it sucks, that I read manuals, Allan's wife Suzette has threatened to take the camera off me if I don't hurry up and use it... :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
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Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:14 am

even worse when people dont read and then never know about the new functions ....

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Really really nice :thumbup: I love the first photo of the reflections.
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Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:27 am

Chris I downloaded a pdf manual for the 5D from http://www.dojoklo.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; quite inexpensive, not sure if you have one, other than the Canon manual.. I got one for the 7D and he explains the functions and options very well,... I agree it's pointless to have a highly capable camera and use only the auto settings ...
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Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:31 am

Thanks for the feeback.....
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Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:46 pm

Nice pics val! :thumbup: Must say that I'm also partial to some black & white pics, depending on the composition of course. Must also add that I'm a lazy photographer .... have tri-pods and wireless remote, but rarely take the time to set up a shot and use them. :shifty:
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Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:56 am

Val silly question - but just in case .... Did you see the "shortcut" booklet in the 5D box ?

In your 5D box there is a LOT of stuff, book CD's, warrantee cards etc etc. AND a SMALL "booklet", HANDY shortcut to the functions on the 5D !!

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Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:28 am

ChrisF wrote:Val silly question - but just in case .... Did you see the "shortcut" booklet in the 5D box ?

In your 5D box there is a LOT of stuff, book CD's, warrantee cards etc etc. AND a SMALL "booklet", HANDY shortcut to the functions on the 5D !!
Ummm no... will look for it... anyway Chris think about it, there aint any shortcuts in life, like there aint no such thing as a free lunch.. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: just teasing you, will have a look at it.. thanks...
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Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:12 am

jip, no short cuts. But HANDY to keep in your camera bag, just in case you cant remember where to find that specific function. :)

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wow :!: :!: thanks Val those pics are absolutely stunning :!: :!: indeed talent shared .

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Thanks for sharing the awesome pics with us. I won't ask again if you give lessons :blushing: :surrender:
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Thanks... Always willing to share what information I can...
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Thanks Vak, one day our paths shall cross. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Fantastic pics Val ,only one problem now i miss my old home :clap:
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Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:44 pm

Thanks guys. Took a walk along the beach today minus camera... silly move, and another beautiful mountain, cloudy, very low tide, should have had camera with type of day....
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While sitting having an evening braai at our place up on the Hogsback, the moon appeared on the horizon. I thought the scene would make a great pic with the mountain peak in the middle-ground .... only issue was that I was unprepared, ..... the camera was handy but the tripod was too far off and the moon was rising fast. With no time to set up a tripod I pinned my hopes on a wide aperture and a 800 ISO.

Knowing that both would negatively affect the pic (almost no depth of field and graining), I steadied the camera as best I could and snapped off a couple of shots. The results were poor as expected, but what was intriguing was the silhouetted shape of a couple of blue-gum trees in the foreground ....... looked like a giant doing a 'kiba dachi' karate stance on the horizon.

The first pic was grainy and had some movement blur ..... not enough exposure to show the composition in the rest of the frame.
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Instead of taking the time to go and fetch the tripod, I messed about with a couple of different settings, hoping for some better shots. By the time I had taken this one, the moon had already risen quite a bit and being partly obscured by some cloud, I was no longer concerned with detail on the moon surface. This was when I got the intriguing 'kiba dachi' stance shot.
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Val, some advice here? The lens I had with me was elected for general photography, a 3.5 18-200 zoom. A bit too slow for those kind of shots, but my son had a few more lenses in his bag, so the next night we set up in advance with his camera and took a few more. will post some of his shots once I download off his camera. ;-)
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:43 am

Andy the moon is surprisingly BRIGHT, especially a full moon. And people often underestimate the "speed" of the moon.


I normally start playing with these settings:
ISO 100
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F = 14 Depending on the photo detail, play with the f value.

Obviously you can go aster if you increase the apparture, as I said these are good starting values, from here I play depending on the conditions.

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Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:48 am

Zoom lenses tend to have higher F stops and are slower. But you need slower to take in more details from the scene, but Andy keep your tripod handy... Faster shutter speed you are going to get the light source and silhouette or no detail in the scene...

Thanks for the shots, would love to see the others...
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:39 am

Took these shots in June at about 8.30 at night, and because I wanted to get a bit more details from other light sources, reflection off the water, and clouds had a slow shutter speed. Set my camera at f16, iso 6400..
The first shot was 4 sec, less detail in the foreground and darker water
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:01 am

Must say Andy, I like that bit of detail that is creeping in in the second shot of yours, and for a handheld shot, its great...
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:11 am

Yoh! Nice shots Val!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Like I said, if you're prepared to dis[pose of Lunar detail, you can get most of the other stuff .... the clouds help to 'diffuse' the edge of the moon so that the movement is less noticeable.

Ja look, I know that zooms are slower .... unless you have some seriously big sheets lying about to play with, but that's again more for the pro that can justify that kind of outlay. I'm merely an amateur, and don't have enough resources to divert into lenses that run anywhere from about 10k to 80k a pop. I fully understand that the glassware makes a huge difference, but I'm still running a 450D body that's already way outdated ...... the CCD is pathetic by comparison to the newer stuff, and already starts graining at ISO 400 in poor light.

The catch 22 is that when you try to arrest movement, the only way is with a fast shutter which means you need more light or higher ISO, .... the wider you open the F the poorer the focus in depth and the higher the ISO the poorer the quality (graining).

I suppose there is no way around it .... the expensive equipment is needed for this type of shot.
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:47 am

Hear what U saying Andy... Yes, good equipment and glass obviously can help a lot, but have also seen shots with all the best equipment that are terrible. Technology increases at such a rapid rate that to keep up with it is mostly only for the wealthy of wealthy, and not too many of those around.... Art is subjective and even when you break all the rules it can be beautiful.... so just try to use what I have to the best of my ability, I know some will love it and others will hate it... That's the nature of the beast...

C'mon where's those other shots... really enjoy others photographs..

Also wanted to add that there is such amazing software out there, that reduces a lot of problems in photographs, noise, sharpening etc..
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Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:19 pm

OK, I'll just lump them on ..... you can crit them. Some we messed about a bit by 'painting' the foreground with a torch and / or remote flash.




Before the moon crested the horizon .......

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..... and then as it rose .......

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Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:53 pm

Hi Val, what is the name of the software which you use to edit u're pics?
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GI Jane
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:15 pm

Thanks Andy.... Just love with digital being able to take quite a few photo's to be able to do comparisons and seeing the differences. I have little experience with night photograpy, but I love the ones where you painted in some light on the trees....it balances the light coming from the moon for me, and my eye wants to move around the photo more.

Pieter I use CS5 and have quite a number of plugins, where I think photoshop is not really up to scratch, like photomatix for HDR, Silverefex for black and white, and noiseware for noise reduction..
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Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:48 pm

Val do you use Lightroom ?? Much better suited for the typical exposure slider type editing - especially for a large number of photos.

Worth noting that the correct name is Adobe PHOTOSHOP Lightroom. And the secret is in the NAME. Lightroom is part of the Photoshop family of software. BOTH use the SAME "engine" when doing slider type corrections to a photo. The difference is that Photoshop started out life as a graphic desing package. Whereas Lightroom was "made" (extracted from Photoshop) specifically for slider type photo editing, AND they added a lot of filing/catalogue/key word functions to Lightroom.

BUT if you want to clone out a dust spot, add a sea bird into a photo, etc etc then Lightroom is NOT up to it !! Now you are moving over to graphic design. Similarly, W&B photo with colour painted back into a portion of the photo is graphic design, ie Photoshop.


I use Lightroom on all my photos, and only use Photoshop when I want to do some "graphic design"


For a newbie Lightroom is also a LOT easier to work with !!




Val if the photographic side of the Hilux club do take of we can consider a weekend trip to the Cederberg - with the aim on night time photography. :) :)

PS - I am working on a set of key notes for night time photography, ie full moon, landscape photos by moon light, star trails (both single long exposure and multiple short exposures to be stacked) .... now if I spend less time on the forum I can maybe get this done ...

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Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:33 pm

Sounds great... Yes think we need to do a photographic and 4x4 weekend, because there are quite a few photographers in our area... would be fun... Will chat to Allan see what we can put together...
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