Die [nuwe] 4y engines is dit goed of sleg?

[Ou Legend]

My pa het n 87 4x4 met n 3y engine engine in en hy wil graag n 4y insit.My eerste vraag is;Is dit die moeite werd om hulle tekoop?2; Waar kan mens 1 kry vir n goeie prys? Ekt gekyk by Engine den se web bladsy adverteer hulle dit vir R7950.Ek sal julle raad wardeer van die mense wat die engine in hulle bakkies ingesit het.

[Donkey]

Hi Stefan

Spartan on the forum has a Toy Stallion with a 4y engine, though I would not know if it is the old or the new version (if any different at all), I think he'll be able to give you direction. The 2y I had just kept on going and I think your dad's truck is the same, it's a Toy remember?

Regards,

[ThysdJ]

Moet net nie die Chinese gemors koop nie...

[Dadz Toy BFI]

The Korean Motors Rock, there's a few on the Forum (incl mine)

You get 4Y reliability and a bit of oooomf if you fit an Efi

[Mr_B]

Whatever you do... torque the head after 1000km... no matter who says what!

Mr B

[ThysdJ]

and every 5000km's after that, no matter what...

[Ou Legend]

Waar kan ek die korean 4y kry en net 1 vragie hoekom moet sy head so baie getorqu word,ek weet van na n 1000km maar hoekom elke 5000km?Die wat Autozone verkoop Jap of Korean?Dankie

[ThysdJ]

Die Korean en Chinese en almal is dieselfde, of ten minste baie naby aan dieselfde... Mens kry nie meer Japanese 4Y's nuut te koop nie.

Koop eerder 'n 2de handse Jap-4Y en recondition hom dit gaan jou op die lang duur goedkoper uitwerk...

[DOELLOOS]

Die Korean en Chinese en almal is dieselfde, of ten minste baie naby aan dieselfde... Mens kry nie meer Japanese 4Y's nuut te koop nie.

Koop eerder 'n 2de handse Jap-4Y en recondition hom dit gaan jou op die lang duur goedkoper uitwerk...

Die Gesins_Hond gaan nie van hierdie kommentaar hou nie...

[ThysdJ]

Die Gesins_Hond gaan nie van hierdie kommentaar hou nie...

Die Gesins_Hond sal dit oorleef....

[Mr_B]

Hmmmm difficult one... my opinion on Korean vs Recon Original:

If you have access to a honest, knowledgable mech, I would acquire and rebuild a 4Y, but if the 2nd hand original 4Y is too stuffed, it could easily cost you 10K to recon, if not a little more... a decent recon, with new pistons, std sleeved bore, new timing chain, new water pump and recon'd head...etc. should set you back 6.5 to 8K... you must insist on original Toy rear main and timing cover seals!

If you don't know a decent mech to do the rebuild or can't find a decent 2nd hand Toy 4Y, then the Korean 4Y is the way to go...

On the head retorquing issue, the okes that sell the Korean 4Y's say torquing the head after 1000km is not needed, but we've learnt very quickly that this is in fact not the case... ala DadzToy ...a re-torque at 1000km is essential... then check the torque every 10000 or 20000km... again if you can afford to... fit an original Toy rear main and timing cover seals, even if you decide to fit a Ching Chong motor from China!

Mr B

[ThysdJ]

Yes, Mr B you be right, but a reconned Jap 4Y will last you 300 000km's where even a Korean 4Y wont last more that about 80 000 kms.. Now go and do the math..

[Mr_B]

Now go and do the math..

I'm a programmer... my job doesn't require any knowledge of math what-so-ever!

[Big D]

Yes we had this discussion before. There is no korean motor. There are a few different chinese motors thow. (seems that commercial motors sells the beter one) There are a few gents on this site using this chinese 4y without any problems. Im using one, and with the EFi, had no problems yet, and the motor runs smooth.

Torqued the head once on 2000km and that was it.

In the end its your choice.

What happend to the old motor?

Deon

[ThysdJ]

I'm a programmer... my job doesn't require any knowledge of math what-so-ever!

But it does require of you NOT to hang out the office window shouting and waving at passers-by..

[Mr_B]

I'm a programmer... my job doesn't require any knowledge of math what-so-ever!

But it does require of you NOT to hang out the office window shouting and waving at passers-by..

I was just so excited to see you...

[Ou Legend]

Big D Die ou engine loop nog hy gebruik olie en hy gooi sy plugs nat dan mis hy,my pa het so 2 jaar trug n nuwe top opgesit want die vorige 1 se waterports het deur geroes,anyway die ander rede is die 3y het n bietjie min krag,maar ek sal maar hoor wat hy se.Dankie sover

[Dadz Toy BFI]

One day soooon all the main manufacturers will build their motors in China, Honda Motorcycles are already doing just that

[Family_Dog]

I bought a Chinese/Korean 4Y from Midas a few years back. It had an excellent finish, compared to the ones they sold a couple of years later, which were somewhat cheaper and had a terrible finish on the mouldings. At the same time, I had the original 4Y overhauled at a cost of R1000 more than I paid for a brand new engine. I trust the new engine more than the overhauled one, but this is because I do not know what spares were used by the engine rebuilders, in spite of my request that they only use genuine Toy parts.

In short - if you have a reliable engine builder (hello, Hoppy! ) you can elect to have your engine rebuilt. If you do not have a reliable workshop doing the work, rather buy a new engine. It's cheaper and will last you at least close to 200,000km. I did have the head torque checked on mine after about 3500km and it was perfect.


-F_D
Gesins_Hond

[Ou Legend]

Ekt n kwitasie by Autozone gekry. Ae pistons,bearings main/bigends,oliepomp en timingchain en gascetset victor reinz en water pomp gaan R2500 wees ,sy top is nuut oorgedoen.Ekt my pa gese hy moet maar daaroor dink.Dankie vir julle advies en meegevoel.Sal julle op hoogte hou.

[BenHur]

EK weet ouens soo Thys like nie die Chinese engins nie maar ek hat al van net so baie 4Y's gehoor waaarvan die origional mouter uit Toyota se fabriek oom na 120 000 km begin lol het gewoonlik begin die goed met HG probleme en daarna is als aftraande. So as jy gelukking is het jy 'n goeie ene gekry wat 300 000 km loop maar ek dink hulle is die minderheid nie die meerderheid nie.

Persoonlik het ek al te veel recons gesien wat net 50 000km hou so tensy ons almal na Hoppy toe kan gaan vir engine overhauls koop ek eerder 'n Chinese engine en vat my kanse daarmee. Niks is perfect nie

Even daai engins wat deur enginering works ge-reasemble is met 1 jaar waarborg op is nie altyd perfek nie en daai waarborg het soveel loopholes gewoonlik dat hulle nie veel werd is nie. Ek het al te veel kere gesien dat waarborge niks beteken nie.