4.0 Hilux Surge
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4.0 Hilux Surge
Hi Guys,
I drive a 4.0 v6 auto hilux (4x4) and have picked up an interresting irretation. It can be described as a surge and can be felt when:
1 the vehicle is under load, e.g. slightly loaded on an uphill
2 the throttle is in 'medium' - i.e. +- 10 to 30%?
3 at very specific rev points - eg 2900 rpm
It is NOT noticed at all if at full or 'heavy' throttle or when driving under little/no load. When the engine is reved in neutral no misfire/surge is noticed.
The surge almost feels as though the gearbox is about to shift to the next gear, but then does not.
Not sure if i am mistaking, but it also seems to 'stick in 4th' at times.
All of this does not convince me that it is an engine misfire, but rather a gearbox issue?
I have 32 inch BF's fitted, not sure if this could mess with throttle position/revs/speed ratios.
I would really appreciate some advice on this if anyone can offer any?
Thanks!
Morne'
I drive a 4.0 v6 auto hilux (4x4) and have picked up an interresting irretation. It can be described as a surge and can be felt when:
1 the vehicle is under load, e.g. slightly loaded on an uphill
2 the throttle is in 'medium' - i.e. +- 10 to 30%?
3 at very specific rev points - eg 2900 rpm
It is NOT noticed at all if at full or 'heavy' throttle or when driving under little/no load. When the engine is reved in neutral no misfire/surge is noticed.
The surge almost feels as though the gearbox is about to shift to the next gear, but then does not.
Not sure if i am mistaking, but it also seems to 'stick in 4th' at times.
All of this does not convince me that it is an engine misfire, but rather a gearbox issue?
I have 32 inch BF's fitted, not sure if this could mess with throttle position/revs/speed ratios.
I would really appreciate some advice on this if anyone can offer any?
Thanks!
Morne'
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Morne, what is the mileage on the engine?
Do you notice an increase in fuel consumption lately?
Do you notice that there is less power available?
Do you notice an increase in fuel consumption lately?
Do you notice that there is less power available?
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Morne' this sounds to me more like an engine / gearbox management (ECU) problem ... maybe just an adjustment. Hopefully the guys that are more clued up on this could assist.
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Morne, I notice in your signature you mention a unichip. Have you disabled the chip to see if it does the same?
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Morne, Forest does exactly the same thing. Noticed it about 2 000 kilo's back for the first time, thought it was because the long interval between services (1st was done at 12 800 kilo's due to us leaving for Namibia) and it was better after the service at 29 000, but only for about the first 500 kilo's.
Forest normally only does it in 4th, and as you say against a slight uphill, but also recently in 3rd on a sharpish incline- almost as though it wants to change up, but then doesn't.
Please help, anybody...
Forest normally only does it in 4th, and as you say against a slight uphill, but also recently in 3rd on a sharpish incline- almost as though it wants to change up, but then doesn't.
Please help, anybody...
Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Have you changed your filters? Particularly fuel filter?
Have Toy check and test your 'fuel pump'
Have Toy check and test your 'fuel pump'
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Ek het n soortgelyke probleem gehad met myne, was toe die petrolpomp. Ons vermoed daar was dalk n paar klein stukkies veilsels aluminium in die longrange tank????? Dit het begin gebeur net nadat ek die bakkie perongeluk in n gat in gery het en op tweewiele testaan gekom het. Dalk is die vuiligheid met die helling van die bakkie opgesuig.....
My unichip het probleme gegee maar is ook uigesort. Die probleem was op lae revs en op idle.
My unichip het probleme gegee maar is ook uigesort. Die probleem was op lae revs en op idle.
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
dankie ouens vir die vinnige reply.
Jip ek het n unichip in en het die exhaust manifold en pyp verander by SAC. Ek het het heel eerste daarna gekyk en die chip 'ge-bypass'. Ek weet SAC speel met throttle calibration om throttle response the verbeter, maar dit werk nie op die auto nie, dit maak hom deurmekaar. In elk geval, met die chip heeltemal uit maak hy nog so.
My kar het nou 50 000km op. Dit is moeilik om op petrol verbruik te kommentaar, want ek het intussen n paar dinge verander soos die groter bande en onlangs a snorkel opgesit. Ek doen so 6-7 km op n liter.
Ek het hom by Toyota gehad, maar ek kan sien die ouens wobble bietjie as jy kla oor iets wat n rekenaar nie vir hulle kan uitwys nie.
Jip ek het n unichip in en het die exhaust manifold en pyp verander by SAC. Ek het het heel eerste daarna gekyk en die chip 'ge-bypass'. Ek weet SAC speel met throttle calibration om throttle response the verbeter, maar dit werk nie op die auto nie, dit maak hom deurmekaar. In elk geval, met die chip heeltemal uit maak hy nog so.
My kar het nou 50 000km op. Dit is moeilik om op petrol verbruik te kommentaar, want ek het intussen n paar dinge verander soos die groter bande en onlangs a snorkel opgesit. Ek doen so 6-7 km op n liter.
Ek het hom by Toyota gehad, maar ek kan sien die ouens wobble bietjie as jy kla oor iets wat n rekenaar nie vir hulle kan uitwys nie.
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Morne een van my vriende het n 4.0L fortuner manual en hy sukkel ook maar syne voel asof jy n waterkar sleep en dis in al die ratte so voel asof hy krag verloor en dan weer optel het so sagte golf effek
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
ja mens kan dit seker so beskryf, dit is nie n aggressiewe vassteek soos wanneer mens spark verloor nie.
btw, hou van jou hoed
btw, hou van jou hoed
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Dankie Morne
Dis ons Georges Valley ouens se straf hoed as jy iets aanjaag of doen wat simpel is dan kry jy die hoed en moet hom 2 weke lank dra na elke vergadering toe voor jy hom mag aan gee Dit bou nogal lekker gees tussen die manne
Dis ons Georges Valley ouens se straf hoed as jy iets aanjaag of doen wat simpel is dan kry jy die hoed en moet hom 2 weke lank dra na elke vergadering toe voor jy hom mag aan gee Dit bou nogal lekker gees tussen die manne
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Leon, Hennie,
Watter grootte bande het julle op?
Watter grootte bande het julle op?
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Ek't 265 75 BFG A/T's op. Kan dit regtig 'n verskil maak? As die bande iets daarmee uit te doen het, sal 'n mens dit dan nie in al die ratte voel nie?
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
ek kyk nou maar na alles wat ek moontlik voor kan verantwoordelik wees. Ek spekuleer maar, maar as ek groter bande ophet (vir n Hilux is n 32 duim band 2 duim groter as standaard), is die spoed tot revolusie ratio anders, ek weet nie of die ratio belangrik is in die ratkas se beheer nie. Omdat elke rat anders reageer sal sekere ratte moontlik harder werk en dan meer prominent die fout uitbring.
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
32x11.5R15 MTR's. Daar is ook gestry by die agente oor my bakkie se probleem tot die verteenwoordiger van Toyota uitgekom het en hy toe voorgestel het om die pomp te vervang. As ek reg onthou was dit op so 75000km.... Daar was ook geen aanduiding van die probleem op hulle blikbrein nie.
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
het hom...
Ek het vanmiddag 5:20 by my lokale Toyota handelaar ingestap en gevra om met die diens voorman te gesels. Ek het nie n vriendelike verwelkoming verwag nie aangesien almal al hulle kosblikke ingepak het. Tot my verbasing het hy halfpad deur my verduideliking van die probleem, my met n glimlag in die rede geval en gese: "bring jou kar in dat ons dit vir jou kan regmaak".
Die throttle position switch (TPS) se aard draad tel storing op onder lading en veroorsaak dan dat die TPS 'hunt'. Die oplossing hiervoor is om n externe aard draad vanaf die battery na die TPS in te trek. Die probleem is glo tipies onder die Hilux en Prado en nie die Fortuner nie.
Hoop die oplossing help ander wat ook hiermee sukkel.
Ek het vanmiddag 5:20 by my lokale Toyota handelaar ingestap en gevra om met die diens voorman te gesels. Ek het nie n vriendelike verwelkoming verwag nie aangesien almal al hulle kosblikke ingepak het. Tot my verbasing het hy halfpad deur my verduideliking van die probleem, my met n glimlag in die rede geval en gese: "bring jou kar in dat ons dit vir jou kan regmaak".
Die throttle position switch (TPS) se aard draad tel storing op onder lading en veroorsaak dan dat die TPS 'hunt'. Die oplossing hiervoor is om n externe aard draad vanaf die battery na die TPS in te trek. Die probleem is glo tipies onder die Hilux en Prado en nie die Fortuner nie.
Hoop die oplossing help ander wat ook hiermee sukkel.
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Morne', dankie dat jy terug gekom het met die oplossing. Ek's bly dat hulle die probleem gekry het en dat dit nie erg was nie!
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And be yourself ..... everyone else is taken!
Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Dankie Morne, hoop jy kry sommer gou, gou jou Lux terug
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
hy het ook gese daar is geen manier hoe ek ooit die enjin sal klaar ry nie. Soos hy dit beskryf het, "ek het nog nooit die binnekant van n 4.0 V6 gesien nie, en ek werk al 20 jaar vir Toyota"
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
turns out my car is not fixed, suge i still there...
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Hallo Morne
Het jy miskien al enige vordering gemaak met jou surge probleem want Toyota kan nog nie my surge probleem oplos nie.
Baie Dankie
Stiaan
Het jy miskien al enige vordering gemaak met jou surge probleem want Toyota kan nog nie my surge probleem oplos nie.
Baie Dankie
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Hi guys, I drove with my business partner last week in his 4L V6, without me mentioning a thing he demo'd this 'surge' issue... felt like the gearbox computer couldn't make up it's mind whether to change gears or not... leading to this surge feeling... he told me he has also had Toyota look at it, they fiddled with some computer settings, the techies even read up on the internet how to fix it... and the problem's still there...
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
dit was toe nie die fout nie... hy maak maar nog steeds so.
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
dit was toe nou nie die probleem nie... ek hou maar weer my ore oop vir iemand wat die selfde probleem het?
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Het hulle an die pomp vervang?OOOOMS wrote:Have you changed your filters? Particularly fuel filter?
Have Toy check and test your 'fuel pump'
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
funny you should ask. i replaced the front (engine) one this morning which i can with confidence say the agents have never done over 60 thousand kms. is there a nother and if so where does it sit?
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Only x1, I know of. There may be another one in the tank.
But I am referring to the 'fuel pump' itself (not the filter).
First check and see how the vehicle performs now after the fuel filter has been replaced. Otherwise insist they must replace the pump. My mate had the same problem and after a long hoohaa with Toy they eventually replaced it. Problem gone :!:
But I am referring to the 'fuel pump' itself (not the filter).
First check and see how the vehicle performs now after the fuel filter has been replaced. Otherwise insist they must replace the pump. My mate had the same problem and after a long hoohaa with Toy they eventually replaced it. Problem gone :!:
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
i'll pick that fight this week then. thanks OOOOMS
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
ok, ive won the fight with Toyota, they did a pressure test and will now replace the fuel pump.
this is when they get stock when the strike is over off course....
this is when they get stock when the strike is over off course....
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Good for youMornes wrote:ok, ive won the fight with Toyota, they did a pressure test and will now replace the fuel pump.
this is when they get stock when the strike is over off course....
They have no stock??? At the branch you are at....but surely they must have stock at some other branches in and around Gauteng. Make sure a new unit actually goes in :!:
Trust this will resolve your, long last irritation
How come they did not pick up a problem before?
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they claim the strike has made it difficult to get parts as common as brake pads. i dont get the feeling they are really equipped/skilled to really dig into these technical challenges. the answers i got on how they perceive the lamda's to work was scary. wish i had the toys to play with these problems.
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Seems the DRP needs attention.....
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Ek sukkel ook nou al so 15 000 km's met die "surge" ding.
Forest was al 3 keer daar wat hulle aanmekaar fiddle met die ratkas, en hydraulic levels, maar dit bly dieselfde.
So is Forest vanoggend in vir 'n diens. Het hulle reeds gister gewaarsku oor die petrolpomp storie, en gese hulle moet druktoets doen, dis die petrolpomp en ek soek 'n nuwe petrolpomp. Die workshop manager was baie bedagsaam moet ek se.
Toe ek hom gaan haal vandag, deel hulle my net ewe kalm mee dat hulle wel toe 'n nuwe petrolpomp bestel het, en my sal laat weet wanneer ek Forest moet bring daarvoor. So kom ons hoop!!!
Forest was al 3 keer daar wat hulle aanmekaar fiddle met die ratkas, en hydraulic levels, maar dit bly dieselfde.
So is Forest vanoggend in vir 'n diens. Het hulle reeds gister gewaarsku oor die petrolpomp storie, en gese hulle moet druktoets doen, dis die petrolpomp en ek soek 'n nuwe petrolpomp. Die workshop manager was baie bedagsaam moet ek se.
Toe ek hom gaan haal vandag, deel hulle my net ewe kalm mee dat hulle wel toe 'n nuwe petrolpomp bestel het, en my sal laat weet wanneer ek Forest moet bring daarvoor. So kom ons hoop!!!
Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Dit laat my nogal bekommer indien dit wel die probleem is! Die pomp soos ek verstaan is wel 'servisable', seels ens.
Morne, jy kan nie dalk by Toyo Service Centre, Ralf 'n draai gaan maak en by hom uitvind of hy presies weet van die probleem nie? Dalk weet hy meer....
Morne, jy kan nie dalk by Toyo Service Centre, Ralf 'n draai gaan maak en by hom uitvind of hy presies weet van die probleem nie? Dalk weet hy meer....
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Ai ek seker na daai petrolpomp vervang is gaan die bakkie reg wees. My bakkie hardloop vir die laaste 60000km vanaf hulle die pomp op 75000km vervang het sonder probleme.
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sal ironies wees Leon, jyt van die begin af gese dis die pomp.
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Enige nuus?
Almal kry die voorreg om onnosel te wees, net jammer party maak misbruik daarvan
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Ek't Forest vanoggend ingevat, hulle is besig om die nuwe petrolpomp in te sit "as we speak" (en ek het seker gemaak ek sien die nuewe een).
Sal post sodra ek hom terug het en getoets het.
Sal post sodra ek hom terug het en getoets het.
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Ons hou duim vas, Hennie :!: :!: :!:
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Forest is terug, en die probleem is opgelos. Hom gevat vir 'n spin hier buite die dorp, en hy voel stukke beter. Gaan volgende week Lydenburg toe, en sal hom dan teen Long Tom uit behoorlik toets, maar ek sou op hierdie stadium se dit was beslis die petrolpomp.
Dankie vir die goeie raad. Moet se, my pa se raad al die jare was weereens reg: as 'n voertuig krag verloor, is dit meesal een van net twee dinge: spark of juice. As hy skielik krag verloor, is dit gewoonlik spark, andersins is dit gewoonlik juice. Maat TSA se man het gedink dis hydraulics in die ratkas...
Dankie vir die goeie raad. Moet se, my pa se raad al die jare was weereens reg: as 'n voertuig krag verloor, is dit meesal een van net twee dinge: spark of juice. As hy skielik krag verloor, is dit gewoonlik spark, andersins is dit gewoonlik juice. Maat TSA se man het gedink dis hydraulics in die ratkas...
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Dis goeie nuus Hennie, hoop dis permanentwarthog wrote:Forest is terug, en die probleem is opgelos. Hom gevat vir 'n spin hier buite die dorp, en hy voel stukke beter. Gaan volgende week Lydenburg toe, en sal hom dan teen Long Tom uit behoorlik toets, maar ek sou op hierdie stadium se dit was beslis die petrolpomp.
Dankie vir die goeie raad. Moet se, my pa se raad al die jare was weereens reg: as 'n voertuig krag verloor, is dit meesal een van net twee dinge: spark of juice. As hy skielik krag verloor, is dit gewoonlik spark, andersins is dit gewoonlik juice. Maat TSA se man het gedink dis hydraulics in die ratkas...
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ek tel die minute af nou. vat hom more in, wou hom al Vrydag in gevat het maar toe wil hulle hom nie vat nie want my tenk was vol petrol. nie gedink die long range tenk sou ooit n nadeel wees nie. sal julle ouens op hoogte hou...
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agge nee... pomp is uit en soos gevrees is dit toe boor veilsels wat die pomp gefaal het.
R 5500 later, vir my rekening. hoop maar dit los dinge op!
R 5500 later, vir my rekening. hoop maar dit los dinge op!
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Eina, gooi jy altyd petrol by die selle garage?Mornes wrote:agge nee... pomp is uit en soos gevrees is dit toe boor veilsels wat die pomp gefaal het.
R 5500 later, vir my rekening. hoop maar dit los dinge op!
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Kan dit dalk die long range tank wees.hulle boor mos gate om dit te konekteer :problem:
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Toyota het n databasis wat hulle spesifieke probleme en oplossings of dan oorsake berg. As hulle dan n probleem het wat hulle nie kan oplos nie kan hulle die databasis raadpleeg vir moontlike oplossing en oorsake. So is in elkgeval vir my vertel deur n Toyotawerkswinkelbestuurder.
Nou my vraag is maar net en ek probeer op niks sinspeel nie maar hoe maklik is dit nou nie om met n databasis vol verskonings jou soos n nat koekieseep uit probleem te wikkel en geld te spaar omdat jy nie onderdele wat wel foutief is te hoef vervang nie. Die veilsels in die longrange tank is tog n ou storie wat se kaart al gespeel is n paar jaar terug met n ander soortgelyke probleem op n V6 nadat hulle myne se pomp vervang het. Veilsels in die tank is beslis n moontlikheid vir die probleem, maar as hulle klaar n antwoord het hoekom sou die selfde ouens wat nie die probleem voor die tyd kon oplos nie dan nou so skerp wees om veilsels in die pomp te kry. Seker hulle het breebors na jou gestap en die veilsels vir jou uitgewys, n rekening klaar geprint in die gatsak. Tog wonder ek........
Nou my vraag is maar net en ek probeer op niks sinspeel nie maar hoe maklik is dit nou nie om met n databasis vol verskonings jou soos n nat koekieseep uit probleem te wikkel en geld te spaar omdat jy nie onderdele wat wel foutief is te hoef vervang nie. Die veilsels in die longrange tank is tog n ou storie wat se kaart al gespeel is n paar jaar terug met n ander soortgelyke probleem op n V6 nadat hulle myne se pomp vervang het. Veilsels in die tank is beslis n moontlikheid vir die probleem, maar as hulle klaar n antwoord het hoekom sou die selfde ouens wat nie die probleem voor die tyd kon oplos nie dan nou so skerp wees om veilsels in die pomp te kry. Seker hulle het breebors na jou gestap en die veilsels vir jou uitgewys, n rekening klaar geprint in die gatsak. Tog wonder ek........
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Dis waar Leon, my swaar het ook die selle probleem gehad met die veilsels....en to vind hulle uit Toy het self die LRT geinstalleer...maar toe probeer hulle vout vind by die garage waar hy brandstof ingooi....Gelukkig het hy trokke en vans wat almal net by daai vulstasie volmaak :!:
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Ok fine... but surely there must be a LP filter between the tank and HP pump... if not it's a serious oversight by Toyota... had there been a filter this would never have happened!Mornes wrote:agge nee... pomp is uit en soos gevrees is dit toe boor veilsels wat die pomp gefaal het.
R 5500 later, vir my rekening. hoop maar dit los dinge op!
Filter = R50...
HP Pump = R5500...
:evil:
My suggestion... fit a filter!
And if there is a filter... then how on earth did metal filing get in there?
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Oh and if there is a filter in place... and they have been servicing the vehicle... then they need to answer for it!
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Soos ek verstaan is die pomp in die tank, daar mag nog n filter wees maar die een wat ek van weet en altyd saamvat op n trip is die een aan die battery se kant langs die enjin. Ek is redelik seker daar is nie n filter voor die pomp in die tank nie.
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Dit is korrek daar is net een filter, by die batteryAfrican Child wrote:Soos ek verstaan is die pomp in die tank, daar mag nog n filter wees maar die een wat ek van weet en altyd saamvat op n trip is die een aan die battery se kant langs die enjin. Ek is redelik seker daar is nie n filter voor die pomp in die tank nie.
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Dagse kerels, lekker om te sien julle is ewe die moer in oor my verlies..
aan die blink kant, my hilux is nou 100% reg, die kar ry skoon anders en is n plesier om op die snelweg te ry. voel weer soos n nuwe bakkie.
ek het gister middag 2 ure by Toyota spandeer om hierdie probleem te verstaan en ek dink ek het hom. Die pomp (die enigste een) is wel binne in die tenk geplaas, m.a.w. altyd in petrol. Die rede hiervoor is dat die pomp koel gehou word deur die petrol. Aan die pompie vas, is n lap 'strainer' wat veronderstel is om die tipe ding uit te hou. Interressant word die pomp beheer om in 2 vloei verstellings te werk; n low flow wat vir (1) idle speed (2) low revs (3) low throttle position gebruik word. Wanneer die revs optel na oor 3000 rpm, of wanneer die throttle posisie meer as se 50% is, word die pomp se spoed opgetel vir die groter brandstof demand. Die spoed word beheer deur n relay in te trek wat n weerstand in die circuit ontkoppel en sodoende die voltage en daarmee die spoed, te verhoog. Dit verduidelik waarom die enjin altyd op medium lading en revs gesurge het.
Toyota was hulle hande in die geval en se dat hulle uitdruklik op die eis moet bevestig of die klient n long range tenk op het, indien wel sal die eis afgekeur word.
die ouens van 4x4 megaworld was ook hulle hande, hulle claim hulle boor nie gate nie, die gate word ge-lazercut en geweld.
thanks vir al die ondersteuning!
aan die blink kant, my hilux is nou 100% reg, die kar ry skoon anders en is n plesier om op die snelweg te ry. voel weer soos n nuwe bakkie.
ek het gister middag 2 ure by Toyota spandeer om hierdie probleem te verstaan en ek dink ek het hom. Die pomp (die enigste een) is wel binne in die tenk geplaas, m.a.w. altyd in petrol. Die rede hiervoor is dat die pomp koel gehou word deur die petrol. Aan die pompie vas, is n lap 'strainer' wat veronderstel is om die tipe ding uit te hou. Interressant word die pomp beheer om in 2 vloei verstellings te werk; n low flow wat vir (1) idle speed (2) low revs (3) low throttle position gebruik word. Wanneer die revs optel na oor 3000 rpm, of wanneer die throttle posisie meer as se 50% is, word die pomp se spoed opgetel vir die groter brandstof demand. Die spoed word beheer deur n relay in te trek wat n weerstand in die circuit ontkoppel en sodoende die voltage en daarmee die spoed, te verhoog. Dit verduidelik waarom die enjin altyd op medium lading en revs gesurge het.
Toyota was hulle hande in die geval en se dat hulle uitdruklik op die eis moet bevestig of die klient n long range tenk op het, indien wel sal die eis afgekeur word.
die ouens van 4x4 megaworld was ook hulle hande, hulle claim hulle boor nie gate nie, die gate word ge-lazercut en geweld.
thanks vir al die ondersteuning!
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
IMHO... EPIC FAIL!African Child wrote:Soos ek verstaan is die pomp in die tank, daar mag nog n filter wees maar die een wat ek van weet en altyd saamvat op n trip is die een aan die battery se kant langs die enjin. Ek is redelik seker daar is nie n filter voor die pomp in die tank nie.
There should, at minimum, be a strainer type filter... or even better they should have designed it such that an inline filter is accessible/replaceable from outside the tank... the fact is with the cr@p that lands up in the tank(especially in SA)... the pump will have a shortened life span!
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die ouens van 4x4 megaworld was ook hulle hande, hulle claim hulle boor nie gate nie, die gate word ge-lazercut en geweld.
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HI guys sorry for my 2cw, but the above, proves what bad service we recieve.
If I had a business which carrys out this line of work, after my parts have been returned from my sub contractor (laser cutting company) I would as norm have all the relevant parts flushed and cleaned to ensure no debri's as it is my company's responsibilty and name on the line.
It's like me as a electrician, installing a new distribution board in your house with 2amp MCB's in place of 20's and saying it's made and supplied by others.
Bull ...... sorry but hey just hate hearing how people have to tollerate other persons lack of integrity and passion for there work.
Glad to hear it's sorted though
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die ouens van 4x4 megaworld was ook hulle hande, hulle claim hulle boor nie gate nie, die gate word ge-lazercut en geweld.
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HI guys sorry for my 2cw, but the above, proves what bad service we recieve.
If I had a business which carrys out this line of work, after my parts have been returned from my sub contractor (laser cutting company) I would as norm have all the relevant parts flushed and cleaned to ensure no debri's as it is my company's responsibilty and name on the line.
It's like me as a electrician, installing a new distribution board in your house with 2amp MCB's in place of 20's and saying it's made and supplied by others.
Bull ...... sorry but hey just hate hearing how people have to tollerate other persons lack of integrity and passion for there work.
Glad to hear it's sorted though
Zane
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Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Spoke to my colleague, he has the same issue on his 4L V6(with dual tanks)... in his opinion the guys that do the dual tank may well do laser cutting or whatever else, but the tank stands in an enviroment where grinding and steel cutting is happening all the time... filing flying around... it's easy for filing from another job to fall into the tank without anybody paying attention...
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Raai wie het my tank ingesit........... .....Mega4X4.........
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Hie's ek weer. Forest is reg soos 'n roer, ry weer soos toe ek hom net gekry het.
Toe ek hom gaan haal, was die werkswinkel bestuurder ook baie presies om my te roep om na die ou pomp te gaan kyk- wys my toe die vylsels op die filterlappie, en groot oe oor of TSA die pomp onder die waarborg gaan herstel, long range en al die dinge, yadda, yadda...
My antwoord: "So sue me." en vat my maar hof toe as julle wil vir die R 4 430,
1. dan kan julle vir die judge BEWYS dat die inderdaad die vylsels van die long range se installasie is wat die pomp geblok het, en nie bloot vuiligheid in die petrol nie- (wat is die nut van 'n filter as dit nie vuiligheid keer nie???)
2. Wat ek gedoen het om die pomp nie te laat werk nie- toe ek die long range laat insit het, het julle Toy-manne my aanbeveel om dit te laat doen waar ek dit laat doen het- "want ons laat dit ook daar doen"...
3. Teen die tyd wat ons in die hof opeindig, is daai R 4430 laaaaankal deur julle prokureurskoste opgevreet.
So: go for it- really. Ek gaan dit nie betaal. nie. Punt. Daai voertuig kos my 'n telefoonhokkie vol geld elke maand, en deel van daai geld is dat ek die voertuig kry wat ek wou gehad het, en dis waarom ek .... die waarborg uitgeneem het!!!
So helloo!! bou 'n brug en kom oor dit.
Toe ek hom gaan haal, was die werkswinkel bestuurder ook baie presies om my te roep om na die ou pomp te gaan kyk- wys my toe die vylsels op die filterlappie, en groot oe oor of TSA die pomp onder die waarborg gaan herstel, long range en al die dinge, yadda, yadda...
My antwoord: "So sue me." en vat my maar hof toe as julle wil vir die R 4 430,
1. dan kan julle vir die judge BEWYS dat die inderdaad die vylsels van die long range se installasie is wat die pomp geblok het, en nie bloot vuiligheid in die petrol nie- (wat is die nut van 'n filter as dit nie vuiligheid keer nie???)
2. Wat ek gedoen het om die pomp nie te laat werk nie- toe ek die long range laat insit het, het julle Toy-manne my aanbeveel om dit te laat doen waar ek dit laat doen het- "want ons laat dit ook daar doen"...
3. Teen die tyd wat ons in die hof opeindig, is daai R 4430 laaaaankal deur julle prokureurskoste opgevreet.
So: go for it- really. Ek gaan dit nie betaal. nie. Punt. Daai voertuig kos my 'n telefoonhokkie vol geld elke maand, en deel van daai geld is dat ek die voertuig kry wat ek wou gehad het, en dis waarom ek .... die waarborg uitgeneem het!!!
So helloo!! bou 'n brug en kom oor dit.
Re: 4.0 Hilux Surge
Vat vyfwarthog wrote:Hie's ek weer. Forest is reg soos 'n roer, ry weer soos toe ek hom net gekry het.
Toe ek hom gaan haal, was die werkswinkel bestuurder ook baie presies om my te roep om na die ou pomp te gaan kyk- wys my toe die vylsels op die filterlappie, en groot oe oor of TSA die pomp onder die waarborg gaan herstel, long range en al die dinge, yadda, yadda...
My antwoord: "So sue me." en vat my maar hof toe as julle wil vir die R 4 430,
1. dan kan julle vir die judge BEWYS dat die inderdaad die vylsels van die long range se installasie is wat die pomp geblok het, en nie bloot vuiligheid in die petrol nie- (wat is die nut van 'n filter as dit nie vuiligheid keer nie???)
2. Wat ek gedoen het om die pomp nie te laat werk nie- toe ek die long range laat insit het, het julle Toy-manne my aanbeveel om dit te laat doen waar ek dit laat doen het- "want ons laat dit ook daar doen"...
3. Teen die tyd wat ons in die hof opeindig, is daai R 4430 laaaaankal deur julle prokureurskoste opgevreet.
So: go for it- really. Ek gaan dit nie betaal. nie. Punt. Daai voertuig kos my 'n telefoonhokkie vol geld elke maand, en deel van daai geld is dat ek die voertuig kry wat ek wou gehad het, en dis waarom ek .... die waarborg uitgeneem het!!!
So helloo!! bou 'n brug en kom oor dit.