batterye, batterye en nog batterye .....

[ChrisF]

Seems I will get to know the battery suppliers this winter .....


And so my beloved Elders decides to start "swinging slowly" on cold mornings .... that sure sign of a battery on the way out .....

But what size battery does the 2,5D-4D use ???

Is it the "652PS" number ??? waarvoor staan die PS ?

Cant find anything on the forum ....

Cant find the battery size in the owners manual .....


ooooo well, hoping the clever guys and gals here can help





But the thread title did refer to more than one battery ....

The deep cycle in the back of Elders has seen better days .... charge as you like, tomorrow morning the voltage is 12,4V .....

will have to replace this baby before the camping season starts .....

QUESTION - stay with the classic deep cycle ? OR is it time to go with a Lead Crystal ?

Has to be the same physical size of a 105Ah deep cycle as there simply is no more space for anything larger in the current layout of Elders.





But wait, there is more. ....

The little scooter watched the play unfold and now also swings slowly, and is also on the way out.

Got one of the baby Ctek models from our friendly 4x4 store ..... may just buy me a bit of time, but the writing is on the wall ....

en die rooi karretjie se voor tekkies is volgende op die lys .....

[Family_Dog]

Chris, stick to the 652 (or the next larger size if it fits), don't bother about Lead Crystal or Deep Cycle batteries, your alternator cannot charge them fully.


-F_D

[Johan Kriel]

Chris, ek moes 2 start batterye vervang die winter, net voer jy dink hy gaan nie start start hy, net omdat dit diesel is. Petrol sou seker nie start nie, want jy sou het nog n swaai nodig gehad.

Hou by n semi deepcycle, high cycle of AGM, hulle laai vinning genoeg met n solinod of DC to DC laaier, en kan bietjie dieper ontlaai word. Daai LC kos net te veel dink ek.

[ChrisF]

Chris, stick to the 652 (or the next larger size if it fits), don't bother about Lead Crystal or Deep Cycle batteries, your alternator cannot charge them fully.


-F_D

Thanks Eric

for the main battery - What is the next size up from the 652 ?


for the second battery - I have the Ctek250S, so can charge the second battery properly. Sadly the gap between our trips are just too much, so the second battery dont get used often enough .... sal maak soos Johan sê en kyk na die AGM vir die tweede battery. Anders koop ek maar net weer n gewone deep cycle vir agter in Elders.

[ChrisF]

Chris, ek moes 2 start batterye vervang die winter, net voer jy dink hy gaan nie start start hy, net omdat dit diesel is. Petrol sou seker nie start nie, want jy sou het nog n swaai nodig gehad.

Hou by n semi deepcycle, high cycle of AGM, hulle laai vinning genoeg met n solinod of DC to DC laaier, en kan bietjie dieper ontlaai word. Daai LC kos net te veel dink ek.

Johan ek voel net te ongemaklik om ver te ry met n voertuig wanneer ek weet die battery is op sy laaste bene ....


die battery het darem 5 jaar diens gedoen, so kan sekerlik nie kla nie.

[Family_Dog]

I don't know what the next size up is, I use Raylite 652 batteries for all my vehicles, normally get 7-8 years life out of them.The Lead Crystal batteries apparently fare very badly as a vehicle battery because apart from the alternator charging problems, it appears they do not handle vibration that well.


-F_D

[Mud Dog]

Replace your 105 ah deep cycle with a Raylite MF101 (102a/h - semi deep cycle). As Johan says they load a lot quicker and can handle a bigger discharge. Nice thing is that they are only a third of the price of Deltec and the like (proudly South African). The price should be about R1.2 - R1.3k and they are also the same physical size as the Deltec 105ah.

[ChrisF]

Dankie Eric - 652 sal dit dan wees. Sal maar eers die Menton op hom sit en kyk of dit werk ..... Elders staan te lank tussen trips Ek moet n punt maak daarvan om meer met die Hilux te ry in die week.


Dankie Andy / Johan - Ek sal een van daai Raylite modelle aanskaf :)

[pietpetoors]

Raylite, excide, all the same. When we order we decide which stickers they must put on it.

[Johan Kriel]

Yis ek het twee van daai raylite 101's in my caravaan. 500 cycles by 50%, en hullle noem hom n high cycle. Nie seker na wat hulle verwys as hulle se high cycle nie, dalk na die 500.

[ChrisF]

Raylite, excide, all the same. When we order we decide which stickers they must put on it.

nee man, moenie ons met FEITE kom deur mekaar maak nie ....

Jy laat dink my nou aan die vis industrie. Die boot kom in met n paar ton vis. Van die boot af in ys stoor areas, dan direk na die verwerking aanleg (waar die vinne afgesny word en binnegoed uitgehaal word), dan die prosesering en in die blikkies, dan die autoclave .... en dan kies hulle watter stickers opgesit word .... Jy kan maar lekker kies op die winkel rak - dis presies dieselfde vis !! Okay, daar is natuurlik verskillende fabrieke, maar jy sal nie weet watter batch van waar kom nie.

[Obelix and Dogmatix]

Dankie Eric - 652 sal dit dan wees. Sal maar eers die Menton op hom sit en kyk of dit werk ..... Elders staan te lank tussen trips Ek moet n punt maak daarvan om meer met die Hilux te ry in die week.


Dankie Andy / Johan - Ek sal een van daai Raylite modelle aanskaf :)

VERKEERD CHRIS, Jy moet meer met hom in die bos ry

[Shimano]

Chris,
Myne het ook nou twee weke terug ge groet. Presies dieselfde een as joune 652 die bakkie se original battery, 5 jaar diens gegee. Ek was in Tshipise toe hy die gees gee so kon darem een kry by Messina Landbou Dienste, Willard 652 vir R1060.00.

[ChrisF]

Dankie Eric - 652 sal dit dan wees. Sal maar eers die Menton op hom sit en kyk of dit werk ..... Elders staan te lank tussen trips Ek moet n punt maak daarvan om meer met die Hilux te ry in die week.


Dankie Andy / Johan - Ek sal een van daai Raylite modelle aanskaf :)

VERKEERD CHRIS, Jy moet meer met hom in die bos ry

NOU vertel jy my ....


HOPELIK in September ....

[ChrisF]

Het vandag n paar kilos gery met die Hilux ... kon darem op die sand stop op n terrein

Na meer as n uur se ryery deur die dag het ek die Benton BX2 op die bakkie gekoppel ... omtrent 2 uur lank gelaai voor dit bo 50% gekom het !

Gaan die Benton los dat hy sy storie doen .... maar die skrif is aan die muur ....



Het sommer vanmiddag die scooter gediens, en n nuwe gesselde battery ingesit - AL die diens parte (een plug en auto-box olie), 2 liter 2SO, EN die nuwe batterye het R20 meer gekos as wat Droomers wil hê net vir die battery ....

Die battery kry nou n lekker slow charge met die Ctek

[pietpetoors]

Ek het ook al gewonder of ek nie sommer een van daai 102Ah battery wat ons smous in my trokkie moet sit.
Het al gekyk, ek sal die earth moet langer maak en mooi moet kyk dat hy nie te hoog is, maar ek vermoed hy gaan pas. Maak sin. As ek net 'n naweek weggaan sit ek nie 'n 2de battery in nie, ek sit die yskas sommer direk op die hoof battery. Dus gaan die 102 Ah beter werk as die hudige 60Ah.

Dalk nie so vrot idee nie.

[Johan Kriel]

Make sense if you look at the dod curves of those 101 batteries. As a truck start battery it would probable never get below 50% but as leisure it might. 500 cycle at 50% is not bad.

[ChrisF]

Make sense if you look at the dod curves of those 101 batteries. As a truck start battery it would probable never get below 50% but as leisure it might. 500 cycle at 50% is not bad.

somebody did the maths about those 500 cycles versus the number of holidays we get .....


The normal person that only gets one off 2 week holiday per year to actually get away .... it would take more than a life time to get through those 500 cycles ....



the problem is that if you dont maintain it at home it sulphates and dies after 2 or 3 years ....

[Johan Kriel]

Ja maar teen 80% is dit heelwat minder , dan kom dit nader aan ons vakansie dae

[mcw]

Hi Chris

i recently needed to replace my vehicle battery ,and i fitted a marine battery ,same length and width as the 652 in my SFA ,but 15mm higher,it still had clearance under the bonnet ,biggest gain on this battery was 3 times the cranking amps ,so many more starts when on a trail,was only R100.00 more than normal one,has two extra terminals as well

Martin

[pietpetoors]

What is the code of that battery Martin?

Nice thing about that one is that it also has the studs where you can wire all your extras on.

[mcw]

Hi Pieter

ek dink die code was die selfde net marine agter die nommer gehad

Martin

[ChrisF]

Dankie Martin

[CasKru]

Chris, daai kodes ageteraan kan nogals belangrik wees. Ek weet byboorbeeld die kode CE het 'n baie hoër cold cranking amperage as die gewone 652.

Gaan loer bietjie hier vir specs: http://www.battery.co.za/products/autom ... -vehicles/
Die kolomme is Type, 20 Hour Cap C_n, Reserve Cap C_r,n, Cold Cranking I_s, Length, Width, Height

[dalkill]

Suzi is in for clutch replacement... and battery also klaar machie said that why she struggle to start in the mornings... checking glowpulgs and relay as well
Then last night platkar battery also packed up :-)

[ChrisF]

2 of 3 replaced ....

Thanks 4x4Direct for your excellent service.




crank battery was treated with the Benton and seems to be okay for now ..

[chopper]

Martin
Plse help me with the full detail on that marine battery; the cranking battery on my Cruiser has gone and I intend replacing it with that battery. Is it the Raylite 652 Marine?
Thank you