2700 i Vibration on Pullaway - What is it??

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Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:53 am

I bought a 2700 a while back.
The vehicle has a slight vibration on pullaway. It's not clutch, and not propshaft (I had those checked).
What else can this be?? Mounting?? It's just at pullaway, no other issues then, the car runs perfectly.

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Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:20 pm

Sounds like a clutch shudder. I know you say you had it checked but even a brand new clutch can shudder,specially if it has not been properly aligned with an alignment dowel when fitting the pressure plate. Shudders can also be caused by a burnt clutch plate or pressure plate.
Check al the mountings first to eliminate that as a possibility, if it's not that, then replace the clutch plate, pressure plate and have the flywheel surface skimmed lightly. Replace the release bearing & spigot shaft pilot bearing at the same time.
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Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:31 pm

Thanks Mud

I've been thinking about tyres today - it literally feels like a tyre with a knob in it (but just slightly so). It's not a shudder - feels like you're pulling away over some small klippies.
Maybe I'm full of crap, and no-one else feels it. But I do.
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Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:47 pm

I dont want to make you worry, but when I stripped my truck to do the overhaul now, I had a slight shudder on the clutch. When I removed the motor I found that the pilot bearing was not in place, it was wedged in the clutch plate so it could not have fallen out when I removed the motor. :shock2: :shock2:

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Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:14 pm

Forgot to mention - it also had a noise at around 100, I delivered an Echo 3 in Pretoria last week and sommer took the Lux. I then sent it to Propshaft place, they fitted a "sleeve and ??", and balanced the whole lot.
That shudder on pullaway was a bit better since then - but still there.
It's not a clutch I think. If you pull away at idle, it's 100%. Or if you pull away briskly, it's also 100%.

Again, this is VERY feint guys. I've felt it on previous Luxes before, but on others not.

Mileage is on 263 000, if that helps.......??
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Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:59 am

How old is the new clutch. Had similar issue after 1000km it went away but I also found a cracked mounting on the bellhousing which I replaced.problem went away. So my problem was really 2 fold but an easy fix
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Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:14 am

Flywheel skimmed?

If not its a guaranteed shudder.

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Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:50 am

Guys - no, this is not a clutch shudder. The (really slight, but there) vibration is when you "already pulled away"..........meaining, if you let it coast in first at idle and floor it, the vibration is there.
I thought propshaft, had the thing balanced and new whatchamakolits fitted - it's slightly better, but still there.

Not a trainsmash - some may not even notice it. Bit is IS there. I'm finnicky with cars.
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Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:46 pm

I've once before experienced something similar and not sure if yours might be the same problem. It was indeed the clutch plate .... the small radial coil springs in the plate that help to cushion any jerk, sudden acceleration etc were a bit weak and resulted in a sort of jerky "shudder" at times (not necessarily under pull-off - would even do it up to 3rd gear, especially under load).

If it's bothersome enough, I would do the clutch and be done with it.
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Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:12 pm

If the Hilux has a raised suspension setup it could the propshaft angles thats causing the vibration only on pull away

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Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:53 am

Mud - thanx

MC - You're right, I actually forgot about this. It has OME suspension.

Not a deal breaker, but will be nice if it's sorted. Thanks again, will look into all possible causes.
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Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:05 pm

LouisZ wrote:Flywheel skimmed?

If not its a guaranteed shudder.
I do not agree.
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Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:06 pm

MCHILUX wrote:If the Hilux has a raised suspension setup it could the propshaft angles thats causing the vibration only on pull away

Very likely.
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Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:38 pm

Every time I left a flywheel not schemed with a new clutch replacement it shuddered. Do not matter if its a Hilux, Corolla, golf, Jetta. These was my own vehicles. Not fun to take everything apart to get the flywheel out to get the work done properly. After no shudder.

So its my norm now to insist on the flywheel to schemed with a new clutch replacement.

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Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:14 pm

If there are no high spots or grooves from the rivets on the flywheel it is best left alone. Everytime you skim the flywheel you bugger up the balance. May lead to vibrations and bearing damage.
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:53 am

LouisZ wrote:Every time I left a flywheel not schemed with a new clutch replacement it shuddered. Do not matter if its a Hilux, Corolla, golf, Jetta. These was my own vehicles. Not fun to take everything apart to get the flywheel out to get the work done properly. After no shudder.

So its my norm now to insist on the flywheel to schemed with a new clutch replacement.
maak mens SUPER gatvol, Louis - halwe werk. Gaan HELSE job wees om dit uit te sort, as dit die flyweheel is. Klomp ure se arbeid. :crazy:
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:25 pm

Petri, met al jou jare onderving weet jy mos teen die tyd of dit n clutch shudder is of nie.
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Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:47 am

Beslis nie clutch shudder nie, Marius. Ek en die laaities het die naweek bass gevang, en die Hilux trek die bootjie uit teen 'n steil helling - GEEN shudder nie.
Ons het een aand gaan jakkalse soek, in 4x4 deur los sand (ou lande) voel dit vir my of die vibrasie weg is - maar kan my verbeelding wees. Sal later vandag weer kyk.
Voel soos 'n ge "wopte" propshaft teen lae spoed - asof iets nie lekker in lyn is nie. Maar het klaar daarna laat kyk. Bietjie beter, Klannie het nuwe goete ingesit en propshaft gebalanseer, ens ens (hy het getril op so 100km/h). Nou doodstil - dis net daai good vibrations.
Kan oon nie 'n mag wees nie, hy maak so op die los grond ook.
BAIE min, maar hys daar. Hy word amper "beter:, maar dis dalk omdat ek hom gewoond raak.
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