What is your professional opinions?

[Bullet]

My Lux have 220 000k's on the clock, I 'm looking for a reasonable conversion to increase power and fuel consumption. Here are the different options I'm looking at:
A)7mge conversion
B)Convert my current 22R into fuel injection
C)Heard about a new generation 2.4i Camry engine(most probably a cut-out)
I am not interested in a HiLexus!
What I would like to find out from those of you that have taken the plunge:
*What are the pro's and cons
*Price +\-
*additional parts needed
*expected power increase and fuel consumption
*Modifications needed
- of the 3 above mentioned options

[Family_Dog]

This is going to be good! :)

I opt for a 22R-(BH)E, of course! Cheaper in the long run and 100% reliable.

Have you looked at Cassie's Dyna Chart? Very nice torque curve.


-F_D

[Bullet]

Thanks Eric
What is a 22R-(BH)E? and where can I find Cassies Dyna curve

[CasKru]

Thanks Eric
What is a 22R-(BH)E? and where can I find Cassies Dyna curve

Danie. Bennie did a EFI conversion, hence the (BH), on my 22R motor and it is now effectively a 22RE motor. Have a look at this topic to see the Dyno chart: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3044&start=20

[Bullet]

Very impressive, would you plse give me a quick breakdown of costs and spares used, if I understand correctly there was not a lot of modifications done other than the manifold and ecu and wiring
Thanx so far guys

[CasKru]

There was more involved with the conversion than just that :)

Have a look here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4928&p=54467#p54467

I will PM you with a breakdown of the costs :)

[Castos]

As Cassie said. It is not that easy. Finding a EFI manifold to me seems impossible. Tried in South Africa but no luck. My nephew has tried in Houston Texas and is also battling. For the same price I've just bought a 3rz (2.7i).

Looking at Cassie's dyno chart, the torque figure and graph is impressive, but the kw isn't. My 2.4 with brospeed did 86kw on the flywheel. ( Cassie moet nie kwaad wees nie asb. :) ) What I'm trying to get at is, for hassle to get the manifold and $$$$$,rather go the 7M or 3RZ route. The are both Toyota engines and the conversions are not to complicated.

[ThysdJ]

for hassle to get the manifold and $$$$$,rather go the 7M or 3RZ route. The are both Toyota engines and the conversions are not to complicated.

BUT both those conversions will cost about 4 times as much as what Cassie paid for his EFI. :evil: :evil:

[CasKru]

As Cassie said. It is not that easy. Finding a EFI manifold to me seems impossible. Tried in South Africa but no luck. My nephew has tried in Houston Texas and is also battling. For the same price I've just bought a 3rz (2.7i).

Looking at Cassie's dyno chart, the torque figure and graph is impressive, but the kw isn't. My 2.4 with brospeed did 86kw on the flywheel. ( Cassie moet nie kwaad wees nie asb. :) ) What I'm trying to get at is, for hassle to get the manifold and $$$$$,rather go the 7M or 3RZ route. The are both Toyota engines and the conversions are not to complicated.

Geen rede on kwaad te wees nie. The more information we give the better decision he can take.

You should maybe hold of a bit. Bennie will be looking into making a plan using the standard manifold and converting that into a EFI unit. Riaan's van has been done like that and I believe Bennie wants to improve on that design. So it may be worth it to wait a little while.

[BenHur]

Cassie Kon jy pryse kry op daai goete in my mail vanoggend?

[Castos]

To be honest, I would love an 22RE convertion, but trying to source the parts, is hard work. Cassie was very lucky to get hold of everything. I was now lucky to get hold of a complete 3RZ at a bargain. What I'm not looking forward to, is the crap at the border post's from now on.

[CasKru]

Cassie Kon jy pryse kry op daai goete in my mail vanoggend?

Ek sal hulle môre 'n luitjie gee... Die mense daar by die offies het vandag wakker geskrik en my aan die hardloop gehou :evil:

[Bullet]

Dankie ouens, Cassie ek sal jou raad vat en n bietjie wag en sien wat Bennie uitgerig kry
Hoekom is die manne met die Cressida motors so stil?

[BenHur]

What I'm not looking forward to, is the crap at the border post's from now on.

Why if the motor you buy is legit, you get a receipt from where you buy it, take it for police clearance afterwards and have your paperwork fixed with the new engine no, no sweat at all except the queues at the licensing office.

[ThysdJ]

Hoekom is die manne met die Cressida motors so stil?

Wat wil jy he moet ons vir jou vertel??

[lastround]

My lux het al 85000km met 7mge motor gedoen en nog nie n beat gemis nie en hy werk amper elke dag.MISBRUIK HOM om n groot boot te sleep oppie strand minstens 2keer per week.

al wat nog fout gegaan het was altenator en exhaust praat van betroubaarheid

[Knersus]

Bullet ek was so paar maande terug in dieselfde bootjie en as ek genoeg geld gehad het het ek die 3RZ opsie gekies maar die budget was nie soos ek dit wou gehad het nie. Ek het toe die 22R maar oorgedoen en sit maar vandag met dieselfde krag en swaar petrol verbruik.

Ek glo die 7mge is sekerlik die lekkerste opsie om te doen maar alles pas so tight en die ou air con probleem het my afgesit. Met die 3RZ gebruik jy nog die wiscus fan ook en alles pas met baie min modifikasies. My opinie ----Doen die EFI conversion wat die goedkoopste sal wees of as jy geld magnaat is gaan vir die 3 RZ

[Castos]

I spoke to a guy today who uses the upgraded motor of the 7M. It's a 2.5 strait 6 biturbo. 230kw. They haven't had on comeback or problems. I cannot remember the engine model.

[ThysdJ]

The main reason why people do the 7MGE conversion is because imported 2nd hand engines are dirt cheap and still in reasonably good nick. Also to overhaul a 7MGE motor is much cheaper than other models.

I know the motor you are referring to Reynhard, and to do a conversion like that will cost a lot of money as the engines are quite expensive. Also the availability of spare parts may be a problem. Seeing as the 7MGE was sold in a production vehicle (Cressida 3.0) in SA spares are available.

[Bullet]

Even more expensive than the30-40K for the 7mge conversion?

[Castos]

Even more expensive than the30-40K for the 7mge conversion?

Don't know, the quy is in Sasolburg. I can PM you his details.

Kaspaas, of topic bit. What will I need to convert my 2.4 to 2.7i? I've got a complete motor with ECU, wiringloom etc. Will Allan (Hoppy) mind if I contact him for info etc?

[ThysdJ]

Kaspaas, of topic bit. What will I need to convert my 2.4 to 2.7i? I've got a complete motor with ECU, wiringloom etc. Will Allan (Hoppy) mind if I contact him for info etc?

Phone Allan, he wont mind giving advice. Sounds like you have almost everything. I think there is something with the transponder key as well, but I am not sure. He will be able to tell you exactly what you need Reynard.

[Castos]

Kaspaas, of topic bit. What will I need to convert my 2.4 to 2.7i? I've got a complete motor with ECU, wiringloom etc. Will Allan (Hoppy) mind if I contact him for info etc?

Phone Allan, he wont mind giving advice. Sounds like you have almost everything. I think there is something with the transponder key as well, but I am not sure. He will be able to tell you exactly what you need Reynard.

I'm getting the motor saterday, can't wait. :D :shifty: Just got a PM from Hoppy, either myself or the workshop will phone him.

[BenHur]

Mooi man

[Bullet]

Hi Bennie, jy het gedink jy's 'off the hook'
So kon jy al daai intake uitsort?????

[BenHur]

Nope sorry