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So, I bought myself a new toy, which I never used before, and I have a lot of questions. Here they are:

1) Can I use CO2 for a shield gas, or must I use Argon?
2) What amps is a good starting point for TIG and for what plate thickness?
3) On the photo below, what is the 2s and 5s switch for - manual is really not that clear.

And I will have many more questions :D:


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Nice wish i had one of those toy's

I think the best way to find out is to practice with it and see what does what

maybe just read the manual first :P
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Sover ek weet moet dit argon wees, maar die spesialiste sal jou seker nog antwoord.
Daai 2 en 5 knoppie; as jy die knoppie druk om te begin sweis is daar 'n delay, dan blaas hy eers net gas oor die werkstuk om van al die suurstof ontslae te raak voor hy die stroom aanskakel.
Jy kan dus die delay stel op 2 sekondes of 5 sekondes. 5 sekondes voel vir my baie lank, maar dit sal jy met tyd leer.
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Die soort gas wat jy moet gebruik hang alles af van wat jy wit TIG.
Die maklikste is om op van die groot manne se websites te gaan kyk. Daar is baie informasie wat tipe draad,gas en verstellings moet wees. Probeer eens op AFROX of soortgelyke sites.

Selfs die manne wat die filler rods maak se websites is nogal baie informatief.
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Hi Louis

Ek gebruik argon om myne mild, stainless , en alu

Vir goeie alu werk gebruik hul ook n mengsels (helium en iets)


Gaan kyk na welding tips and tricks .com

Die ou jody doen blerrie goeie werk gee tips ens

Maar ek sien jou masjien is net dc en nie switchable nie

Ac is vir alu

Myne draai ook polarity om via n switch as ek alu doen . En werk soos n droom as ek hom pre program of met die pedal run .

Jy gaan veraltyd bly wees as jy eers n tig het . Dit was vir my n groot aanpasing wanaf stick toe mig en nou die tig .

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BlumTRD wrote:Hi Louis

Ek gebruik argon om myne mild, stainless , en alu

Vir goeie alu werk gebruik hul ook n mengsels (helium en iets)


Gaan kyk na welding tips and tricks .com

Die ou jody doen blerrie goeie werk gee tips ens

Maar ek sien jou masjien is net dc en nie switchable nie

Ac is vir alu

Myne draai ook polarity om via n switch as ek alu doen . En werk soos n droom as ek hom pre program of met die pedal run .

Jy gaan veraltyd bly wees as jy eers n tig het . Dit was vir my n groot aanpasing wanaf stick toe mig en nou die tig .

Groete

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Dankie, ek het al klaar gisteroggend daai website raak ge-google. Waar kry jy jou gas?
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HI

Ek het n groot bottel , dit werk goedkoper uit op die langer duur . R748 vir n ruil . Ek het lank terug voor die huur op die bottels begin het twee teral vir mig gekry . Een geruil vir argon . So nou met n bietjie mooi praat draai ek sonder moeite .n

Cosmo in Pta weg silverton , het afaik air gas bottels , hul stock nie air liquid bottels nie . Dan is daar n huur op die bottels elke maand .

Afrox in Dykor str silverton . Nie seker van huur nie .

Maar gaan eerder direk na air liquid in dykor net verby die brug voor hydraulic shop . Hul groot tanks ens is daar .

Hoop jy kom reg daar anders laat weet .

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BlumTRD wrote:HI

Ek het n groot bottel , dit werk goedkoper uit op die langer duur . R748 vir n ruil . Ek het lank terug voor die huur op die bottels begin het twee teral vir mig gekry . Een geruil vir argon . So nou met n bietjie mooi praat draai ek sonder moeite .n

Cosmo in Pta weg silverton , het afaik air gas bottels , hul stock nie air liquid bottels nie . Dan is daar n huur op die bottels elke maand .

Afrox in Dykor str silverton . Nie seker van huur nie .

Maar gaan eerder direk na air liquid in dykor net verby die brug voor hydraulic shop . Hul groot tanks ens is daar .

Hoop jy kom reg daar anders laat weet .

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Dankie vir die inligting Piet. By Afrox in Silverton is die ruil ± dieselfde en R137 huur 'n maand :thumbdown: . Ek het 'n Oxy Aceteleen stel wat ek nog feitlik nooit gebruik het nie. Ek gaan ook probeer om die bottel/s te ruil vir Argo Shield en Argon. Sal laat weet of ek iets uitgerig kry :thumbup:
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Lyk my ek het reggekom met die gas :thumbup: . Sal more laat weet.
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:cool:

Nou gaan jy lekker speel .

Het die eerste aand nadat ek myne gekry het to 3 uur die oggend gespeel .

Enjoy hom

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Ek het toe my Oksi-Assitileen bottels (wat ek nooit gebruik nie) omgeruil gekry vir Argon en Teral (ArgoShield) van Air Liquide - geen maandelikse huur. Vanmiddag by Cosmo vir my 'n Lincon Air Flow meter gekoop :thumbup: en so bietjie gespeel vanaand.

My gas :yahoo:
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en my eerste weld - hande kry so 'n bietjie warm, want jy stoot die gun ipv trek soos met MMA, so die weld is nie te reguit nie :oops: , maar OK vir 'n eerste keer (95A en so 7 l/min gasvloei).
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R3200 for the MMA/TIG welder. R700 for the gas & R700 for the flow meter.

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louis fourie wrote:R3200 for the MMA/TIG welder. R700 for the gas & R700 for the flow meter.

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So 'n bietjie terugvoer:

Twee foto's - een van die eerstes waar ek verlede week begin het, en die 2de een van die welds wat ek oor die naweek gedoen het. Wat het ek geleer in die week - Torch angle is baie belangrik :thumbup: .
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Lyk baie netjies... Lyk my dis my volgende masjientjie om aan te skaf...
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Hangover wrote:Lyk baie netjies... Lyk my dis my volgende masjientjie om aan te skaf...
Yip. Dis die beste ding na witbrood :lol:

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louis fourie wrote:
Hangover wrote:Lyk baie netjies... Lyk my dis my volgende masjientjie om aan te skaf...
Yip. Dis die beste ding na witbrood :lol:

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Ek is nou weer terug op jou ou post. Ek wil nou baie graag n TIG welder koop vir n paar goetertjies wat ek wil maak. As ek die adendorff masjien koop http://www.adendorff.co.za/ProductDetails.aspx?id=630" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; het ek gas bottels nodig? Ek het nou al bietjie opgelees en dit wat ek sover lees het ek nie gas nodig nie. Die torch kort net cooling en dit kom van air af? Dit lkom voor of mens gas nodig het vir scratch TIG welding? Ek weet nie lekker nie maar soek een haha
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Stef

Jy gaan Argon gas nodig hê. Jy soek ook 'n HF (High Frequency) welder. Die "scratch" start werk nie so lekker glo ek (nog nooit met een geweld nie). Met die HF welder hoef jy nie die tungsten tip teen die job scratch om te begin nie. Hoop dit maak sin.

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Hi Louis

Dankie vir die terugvoer. Ek sal dan eers try om n argon gas bottel in die hande te kry sodat ek nie een hoef te huur nie. Ek wonder of mens nie dam maar sommer moet oorgan na n MIG welder toe nie... Dit is nogal heelwat makliker as TIG dink ek...
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Ek het n 160Amp inverter DC Arc welder ,,,is hy sterk genoeg om tig welding te doen vir S/Steel en mild steel,,,ek het die torch en flow meter spotgoedkoop gekry nog splinternuut,,,en het nie daaraan gedink of my masjien sterk genoeg is nie....

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die mannetjie by COSMO sê my masjientjie is sharp vir dit wat ek wil doen hy hanteer dit maklik tot op 3mm staal of SS.
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Willem, na my mening is hy bietjie lig in die broek .... vir 3mm materiaal is hy miskien OK maar jy gaan hom nog wil gebruik vir dikker werk. Jy sal seker ook daarmee moet 'scratch start' ... nie die ergste nie as jy bietjie vorentoe 'start', terug trek en dan oor die start plek swys, maar jou elektrodes sal ook vinniger uitbrand en jy sal ook meer kontaminasie in die weld kry op die start punt.

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Hey gus my 2cw. You can use co2 but that is called MAG welding (metal active gas) it is used for welding low alloy steels. But the most common gas used is Argon and for us that just weld on the odd project and want to weld a veriety of material I would suggest argon.

Willem jou masjien is sterk genoeg maar soos FD gesê het hou by die dunner ysters. Ek sal nie bo 4mm gaan nie anders gaan jy tungsten rods vreet.

Fot the okes with the scratch welders. Your tungsten electrode usage can be slightly reduced by using a slihktly thikker rod and skarpening your rods to a slighter angle like 15 degrees instead of the normal 25 degrees. You can alse bring the electrode in closer to the nozzel to about 4mm protrusion to get a better cooling effect whete it is possible. This is difficult when welding in corners and so on.

Iff you are getting contamination in the start of your weld make sure to purge the nozzel before starting sufficiently. Remember argon is heavier than gas so it does run out the nozzel when you stop welding. That 2 seconds mentioned earlier sound good.
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The above Inverter welding machine, on the MMA setting can weld stick in normal steel, stainless steel, aluminum, cast iron rods.
On the TIG setting using Argon gas you can weld normal steel and stainless steel, you cannot weld aluminum as it is a DC weld, you need AC to weld TIG aluminum.

The 2s and 5s are post flow gas times, 2s is 2 seconds post flow gas time and 5s is 5 seconds post flow gas time.
This means when TIG welding you finish a weld by releasing the foot pedal trigger or torch trigger, you do not take the torch away or lift it away from the weld, the post flow gas will still shroud the welded area with gas thus cooling the torch head and weld area keeping out any oxygen which will contaminate the weld.

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