kz kilo's done?

Oupa Stig · Post by **Oupa Stig** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:22 am

Noticed a few guys have had to do expensive work on their KZ motors.
Bought my KZ new because I thought diesel was supposed to last bettet than petrol...
Little survey, so we can see what to look out for in future RE high mileage KZ motors:
210 000kms
All still original, incl injectors, clutch, pumps etc.
Only service related bits changed, obviously.
Clutch is on it's way out, beginning to hear faint "wiep" when changing 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd, when all else is quiet.
Timing belt done.

If we get some comparisons from other KZ guys, we might get an idea of what to keep an eye out for, and maybe avoid expensive repairs...

JJBotes · Post by **JJBotes** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:39 am

223000 km
Spill valve - R3900-00 @ SAC

Sun Chaser · Post by **Sun Chaser** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:37 am

204 000km's Cylinder Head replaced with some extra work R10 000.00
210 000km's 2 Radiators, the second was replaced after 12 months of the first,under garantee.
220 000km's Turbo Charger replaced R5000.00

Oupa Stig · Post by **Oupa Stig** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:37 am

Ian, you've had some expensive repairs, though not as expensive as I would have thought.
I am not much of a fundi when it comes to motors, so the same work would have cost me more!
My previous truck - Nissan 2.4 box shape had 460 000 kms on clock when I sold it to a builder - still see it around Joburg 7 years later. Only hassle with the Nissan was oil at plugs- valve stem seals. Motor had never been opened, had only replaced fan, fuel pump. Carb was finnicy.
Having driven my KZ myself from new, treated it fairly well, hope to get better milage than with the nissan...

jacques kotze · Post by **jacques kotze** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:58 am

a Frien of mine got 466 000km's on his KZ with no problems to date. He drives it himself and service it on time and after a trip he let's it idle for 10min to cool down.

WESKUSKLONG · Post by **WESKUSKLONG** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:27 am

204 000 km. Diesel pump and ECU R20 000
Including crank sensor.

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:36 am

Touchin 350000km,

Bought with 64000km, had intercooler installed at 72000km.

Only replaced clutch at 127000km due to leaking oil seal on gearbox.
Further, only normal services(self).

And still pulling like a train!

Foksie · Post by **Foksie** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:42 am

261000km, Replace centre portion and thats that still going well

Post by **Polarbear2008** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:09 pm

Bought with 174 000 on > Now 225 300 kms

She has NEVER left me by the roadside (even when the front diff was "giving birth" while in NAM last year June)! Best is she does not use a drop of oil between services!

Cambelt done on 200 000
Clutch done aroud 210 000
Front diff rebuilt 230 000 - input shaft bearing collapsed causing HUGE noise! Hoppy diagnosed and rebuilt the unit - better than new!

Drive it myself and change oil and filter every 5000ks. Some people say its a waste of money - I can feel the difference, and its MUCH cheaper than a turbo rebuild!
10 000k service done by either Toyota or Hoppy or JB's Auto Repairs (whoever is available at the time).

Pote · Post by **Pote** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:13 pm

Bougt at 250000 and at 290000km replaced 5th gear clusted. (Had a rattle sound when decelerating) Had transfer and fiff's checked (R8500)
At 328000km slide joins replaced on diff and univerfsals (R3500)
Other than that it has never let me down!! Mechanically (battery died on a trip)

Is now standing 0n 333000km

Sun Chaser · Post by **Sun Chaser** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:05 pm

Mickey
I guess its just the name of the game with vehicles. Some luckier than others.I bought it with 140 000km on the clock and almost put 100 000km so far myself.Sounds like alot of repairs to have done, but I do service regularly even under 10 000km, aspecially when going on long trips. maybe I should do the oil and filters every 5000km, sounds like a good plan and not really expensive. I also let it idle for a few min after stopping if its been doing over 100km/h. If just driving slowly 60km/h around home area prob just let it idle for 30secs before switching off.having the head replaced was a bit of a shocker, but I think it was due to cooling problem back then. Im going to fit an aftercooler, I think it is definately an advantage for a turbo diesel motor.

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:10 pm

Bought mine on 252k km's, didn't know how it was driven. Serviced myself and did the oil changes every 5000 km's, and now driving it like it should. Once left me on the side of the road due to a burnt harness, but that could happen with any vehicle, especially when people cut corners and do not know what they're doing when adding accessories, etc.

2011 replaced rear diff - R14k, own stupidity, did not check oil level before trip. Also serviced front CV joints, can't recall costs now but wasn't much.

Motor redone at 323k km's - R25k, some spares like radiator I had bought/replaced myself to cut costs.

Now sitting on 328k km's, just did Botswana/Namibia last December no major hassles except slight overheating, needle only moved just a bit, which I suspect viscuos fan as it was never replaced.

Post by **Polarbear2008** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:31 pm

Tumelo, I also think the life of a diesel has a lot to do with how it is driven! IF you drive it like a GTI and don't idle down after hard work, it is going to hit you in the pocket sooner than later!

I shop around and use Caltex Delo 400 oil (last change R189 for 5L [book says 6-7L depending if filter is fitted or not, but Toyota usually bills for 6L]) and filter (AZ230 AFAIK = R145) and about 3/4 hour's work. I can feel a difference after the oil change. Motor runs quieter and smoother!

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:39 pm

For now I'm trying the Rimula and so far so good, did an oil change last Friday, and yes it does make a huge difference

At the time I wanted to Dilo Gold I did not get, but as Murphy would have it, saw it at Makro Crownmines yesterday when I took the old lady shopping

JamesC · Post by **JamesC** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:25 pm

Had two...both cracked cylinder heads, on one the turbo went as well.
...and I don't drive like a maniac and very particular about services.

I am cured of diesel for ever and a day.

Now a converted petrol head and my Hilux 4.0 is standing on 301 000 and my wife's prado 3.4 V6 on 306 000...

No hassles. Viva Toyota (but not KZ...in my opinion not their finest moment).

Post by **Polarbear2008** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:29 pm

Tumeo

There is a difference between the Delo Gold and Delo 400 - see the thread elsewhere on this site - the specs actually differ.

Have heard good things about Shell Rimula as well - from diesel mechs!

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:36 pm

I'm fully aware Theunis

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:14 pm

Bought mine on 165 000, was already chipped with intercooler. front cw&p, at about 200 000 R6000, Had a head cylinder replaced at 230 000 R14 000, clutch at 225 000 R3000, I do minor servicing myself, now standing on 260 000. Going to get a bigger exhaust and freeflow with EGT. I'm still happy as it is still pulling like a train!

Wegbreek · Post by **Wegbreek** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:50 pm

Bought vehicle on 160 000km, SAC chipped with intercooler. Had to replace the SAC chip at around 170 000km with a new model/version (the older type chip was faulty). Symptom: engine cuts out while driving with the engine management light comes on at the same time. Battle to start the vehicle again. The vehicle only started when the chip cooled down. Replaced the chip - R3500 - and have had no problems. Service every 10 000km.

Dodging · Post by **Dodging** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:53 pm

Phenominal vehicles these

klippe · Post by **klippe** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:52 am

Ek sit maar my details op vir 2011, 2012 en tot op hede. Lyk my of my KZ redelik besig is met repairs as ek die ander manne so kyk. Die bakkie word meetsal op grond paaie gery en werk baie in die veld met 500lt firefighter op. Dra meestal ook vrag op grondpaaie.
Labour Costs Spares
Date Fault km
16 January 2013 Clutch Cylinder R 116.04
Lower Control Arm Ball Joints R 1 658.00 R 328.00

19 November 2012 Hand Brake Cable 426642 R 1 009.93
Service R 984.00 R 431.75
Replace Load Censor Valve R 1 810.00

06 September 2012 Wires on Diesel Pump R 704.00 R 150.00

17 August 2012 Brake Problem R 622.00

20 July 2012 Engine 417491 R 21 000.00
Replace Engine Cracked Cylinder Head R 7 132.00
Replace Complete Radiator R 1 150.00

20 July 2012 Replaced Crown Wheel & Pinion Diff R 14 500.00
Complete Overall of Diff
Replaced Brake Drums R 1 130.00

19 June 2012 Tie Rod Ends R 1 354.00 R 114.00
Ball Joints R 1 803.00
Complete movable parts on Suspension R 742.02

31 March 2012 Service R 896.00 R 432.00
Replace Cambelt R 290.00
Replace Brake Disk Pads R 539.06
R 285.00

Fitted HID Kit R 300.00 R 900.00

03 February 2012 Repair Radiator R 550.00

25 January 2012 Check Suspension,Shocks,Oil leaks R 582.00

02 February 2012 Replace Rear Shocks R 300.00

09 December 2011 Repair Stabelizer Bolts R 503.00

18 November 2011 Service, Repair oil leak on diff R 1 287.00

09 November 2011 Replace Shocks R 600.00

02 September 2011 Service
Replace Disc Pads R 1 145.00

26 July 2011 Replace Ball Joints R 860.00

29 July 2011 Replace Pitman Arm R 615.00

16 June 2011 Replace Turbo R 1 490.00

01 June 2011 Service R 450.00

22 February 2011 Service 351207
Replace Rear Brake Shoes R 2 173.00

R 38 155.00 Totaal Arbeid

R 32 780.80 Totaal Parte

Ek het nie die parte pryse in vir 2011 nie aangesien die leer in die argiewe le en ek nie lus het om te gaan soek nie. Die bakkie is 'n 4x2 single cab 2003 model.

Die odometer staan op 431 352 km

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:37 am

Sjoe, dis n helse lot goed wat vervang is, sou dit nie beter gewees het om maar nuut te koop nie?

klippe · Post by **klippe** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:48 am

As mens nuwe bakkies kan kry van die selfde shape. Het 4x2 single cab in die vigo shape ook in die vloot en die doen basies dieselfde werk behalwe die firefighter. Sy body val omtrent uit mekaar want hulle is nie gebou vir sulke werk nie. Ons werk daagliks met boere wat ook die Vigo shape ry en mens kan maar sien dis maar eintlik sagte body wat werk aan betref. Toe hulle praat van vervang na die head geblaas het het ek gese as hulle dieselfde shape kan kry is dit reg, anders moet hulle maar die idee skraap. Die bakkie het darem naby 200 000km gedoen in 3 jaar en meesste daarvan is harde werk so mens kan seker nie kla nie.

Oupa Stig · Post by **Oupa Stig** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:25 pm

Klippe, toe ek my KZ koop het daar reeds Vigo's op die vloer gestaan. Hulle het net nie vir my reg gevoel as werkesels nie. Die bak se rand was te hoog om toolboxes oor te lig (no comment from peanut gallery about loading through tailgate only - this truck get loaded and off-loaded every day with heavy tools) en die metaalwerk op die sye het net te sag gelyk met geen versterkende voue in die metaal nie. Ek dink regtig die laaste werks-bakkies is in 2005 gemaak.
Jou kostes op jou bakkie was ook redelik groot - het jy die werk laat doen of self gedoen? Ek vermoed jou bakkie werk redelik hard....

so daardie kostes en repairs is eintlik nie sleg nie. Enige ander bakkie sou jy al teen die tyd weg gegooi het!

klippe · Post by **klippe** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:41 pm

Jou kostes op jou bakkie was ook redelik groot - het jy die werk laat doen of self gedoen? Ek vermoed jou bakkie werk redelik hard.... so daardie kostes en repairs is eintlik nie sleg nie. Enige ander bakkie sou jy al teen die tyd weg gegooi het!

Die bakkie gaan in na baie goeie privaat werktuigkundige. Ons is redelik streng op al ons voertuie en vervang of maak reg voordat iets breek. So eerlik was daar sekere dinge wat dalk nog kon hou maar ons maak dit eerder vroegtydig reg. Die bakkie werk hard en die diff wat oor gedoen was is a g v ongeluk in 2009. Die assuransie het goedkeuring gegee vir 2de handse diff. Die slim paneel kloppers sit toe 2.7 diff in en met gevolg is die ratios was verkeerd, Die bakkie het basies heeltyd over rev en laas jaar het die termostaat vas gesteek wat veroorsaak het dat die head gekraak het. Ons het toe besluit op ander engin en voordat ek die bakkie kon terug kry moes ons toe eers diff regmaak sodat dit verdere probleme uit skakel. As ons vuur slaan in die winter werk die bakkie rerig hard, ons ry in die veld met geen paadjies enigsins nie met vol firefighter op wat saam met water, raam en addisionele toerusting seker so 800kg weeg. Ek kan my geensins insien dat die vigo body dit sal hou nie. My broer ry 3.0d4d d/c 4x4 en ek het met hom ook al die bobcat op trailer gesleep wat gesamentlik 3500kg weeg........ Dood eerlike opinie...... ek sleep hom eerder met my KZ.

Ek sien daar is ook gepraat van verskillende olies. Ons gebruik op al ons voertuie net Shell Rimula en ons het nog nooit enige probleme gehad nie

JaMMeX · Post by **JaMMeX** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:09 am

Got my KZ on 135 000km had Chip and Intercooler from SAC already.

Now on 210 000km - Had to replace ECU (R2000) + Clutch (R3500) and a few minor little things.

Service every 7500Km and Still Running Like a Dream.

ABS is my only issue, i think the pump if bust as it makes my break pedal shudder when breaking a very low speeds, but this is project on its own.

JohanW · Post by **JohanW** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:03 pm

Got my Kz on 228251km and in need of some TLC. Paid less than R100k for it.

Now on 240000km and work done to date:

4 BFG 30.5x9.5 R15 AT R8000
Replaced tie rod ends R1200
Replaced heat exchanger in cab and speedo cable R2900
Balanced prop shaft and replaced universals R1500
Replaced worn out leather panels on seats R700
Replaced worn shocks all round with Gabriel Safaris R1500
Full Mikem suspension R7800 (self)

Cirrus Inter-cooler R5000 (self)

All oils in diffs, gearbox and transfer replaced R1000 (self)
All belts except timing R300 (self)
Alternator tensioning block and bolt R98
Custom built full alu bull bar and canopy with full length door and spare wheel carrier. R18000 (self + paid for welding)

Turbo shaft seals on the way out. Yet to be replaced.
Rear diff spider gears on the way out. Yet to be replaced
Ball joints and rear bearings are also on the list. But not critical.

Head still perfect, but i suspect the radiator and thermostat was replaced by the previous owner since it is working very well. New injector tips also done by previous owner R3000
Stickers from the original Toyota air-con parts date 2009...

Still incredibly happy with Tintin. But i do foresee a d4d build in the future.

frik · Post by **frik** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:13 pm

179000 No Problems All original 2004 Model

Oupa Stig · Post by **Oupa Stig** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:15 pm

I should'a kept me darn mouf shut - since starting this thread (with NO replacements/repairs other than service related) I have had to do the waterpump @ R4k and the propshaft @ R2k.... Propshaft was probably hurt when bouncing through millibangalala, once again proving there's no substitute for 4wd... :alvarin:

Btw, changed the settings on my phone, and now all these darn smileys are making faces at me.... :wth:

Kinda' cute...

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:16 pm

So lyk my op 361 500km het ek 2e hoogste myle op?

Mars · Post by **Mars** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:15 am

My skoonpa se werk bakkie is 'n enkel kajuit 4x4 KZ. Hy ry baie lang pad en dra altyd swaar. Ek is nie seker watter jaar model nie. Op 480 000 moes hulle die eerste keer die enjin oopmaak. Gekraakte silinder kop vervang en het toe ook sommer die Diesel pomp gedoen. Tik nou weer soos 'n horlosie met 500 000 kms.

Hannes Thirion · Post by **Hannes Thirion** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:16 am

Bought my 2001 KZ 4x4 DC at 120k km in 2004 with a SAC inter-cooler and chip.
Today at 283k km.
Apart for the normal services (5k km oil change and 10k km oil and filters), brakes, tires, batteries, fan belts and cam belts (replace it myself for the second time recently to found out how easy it is.
Added an extra blade to the rear suspension and changed the shocks to Monroe Gas shocks.
Added an extra 60lt fuel tank and dual battery system, roof rack, home made alu-cab and solar panel on top.
I have replaced the rear wheel bearings and cleaned the injectors at 200k before a 11k trip to Tanzania just to be safe.
Replaced the front wheel bearings at around 230k km to be safe.
The rubber connecting pipe between the turbo and air cleaner cracked and I replaced it.
What else? Every time I get an itch I think how many lt diesel I can fill up with on a monthly installment of a new vehicle and keep on enjoying my KZ!

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:39 am

Now on 367 001km, untouched!

Post by **Polarbear2008** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:02 pm

Myne is nou op 230k en alles gaan goed behalwe dieselpomp so 6000kms terug. Het herboude pomp opgesit vir R9.5k + arbeid (R1600).

Nou loop sy eers lekker!

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:01 am

340 I think, motor redone on 320

jthuynsma · Post by **jthuynsma** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:31 pm

My Pa se KZTE s/c 4x2 staan nou op 487000km 2001 model.
Een radiator vervang omtrent 60 000 km terug en verder het hy al 3 keer aan die steering gewerk.

Moes ook al die bushes vervang na hy 'n plaas brand gehad het want hulle hou nie van deur die vuur ry nie.

Oja en hy het die seat laat oordoen ;)

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:03 pm

Vandag op 373 600 en hy loop nogsteeds lekker!

Pjjvdm · Post by **Pjjvdm** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:22 am

Het myne verkoop met 232 000km op. NOOIT enige probleme gehad nie. Het altyd seker gemaak om die enjin te laat af koel.

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:41 am

Vanoggend oorgeslaan 374 toe!