Hilux 4x4 Forum

On an insignificant dirt road, no major 4x4, my front left wheel decided to "let go"!! Someone must have "forgotten" the splitpin!?!? I am hoping there is not more damage... This is very sad!
Second time I've seen my bakkie ontop a flatbed. :evil: Waiting to hear on Monday from the insurance company...

Sorry to see about your small problem, hope there is not too much damage.

You can be grateful that ball joint didn't fail at speed along a busy route! Replace them all to be safe. Doesn't look like any other significant damage on the pics .... the outer CV looks like it may have taken a bit of strain, but will in all probability still be fine.

Hope the insurers come to your party.

oops I had a similar problem with my Ford in the Richtersveld a few years ago. Not nice!! Glad to hear you guys are okay and I hope they sort it out soon Roy!!

Tend to agree with Andy... replace and maybe have that outer CV checked

Sjoe Roy.Glad you guys are safe.

Thanks for the advice about getting the other side checked... will do that!
I must admit, Thys, I was relieved that this happened close to home, and not on a trail somewhere in the middle of nowhere, and as Andy said it didn't happen at high speed.

Could have turned out MUCH worse

Glad no one got hurt.

eina
that couldve turned really ugly

eina... Glad you guys are okay.

This has just convinced me to replace mine aswell... Don't want that happening to me...

Ali3n wrote:eina... Glad you guys are okay.

This has just convinced me to replace mine aswell... Don't want that happening to me...

Just make sure the splitpin is still in place so that the nut cannot become undone by the vibrations

glad everybody is ok ,just a bit of pride that's gone.

Thunder02 wrote: glad everybody is ok ,just a bit of pride that's gone.

Yeah, I think that is the worst part - the indestructible Hilux .... on a flat-bed
I'm now being teased by my LR and Isuzu buddies ....

Royco wrote:

Thunder02 wrote: glad everybody is ok ,just a bit of pride that's gone.

Yeah, I think that is the worst part - the indestructible Hilux .... on a flat-bed
I'm now being teased by my LR and Isuzu buddies ....

Speakto Landy69,and you feel a thousand times beter
Being towed and left behind many times by Toyota's.

That really sucks man

Hope everything goes ok with the insurance

1 question do u have spacers in?

Pora wrote:That really sucks man

Hope everything goes ok with the insurance

1 question do u have spacers in?

Nope, no spacers. I have Camil shocks, but those have been in for many years.

CasKru wrote: Just make sure the splitpin is still in place so that the nut cannot become undone by the vibrations

Does this splitpin have a tendency to fall out?
Thys, could this be what happened to you?

What could one do to prevent the splitpin from being pulled out? Cabletie!?!?

Royco wrote:

Pora wrote:That really sucks man

Hope everything goes ok with the insurance

1 question do u have spacers in?

Nope, no spacers. I have Camil shocks, but those have been in for many years.

oh ok just weird how that knuckle came off,

Royco wrote:

CasKru wrote: Just make sure the splitpin is still in place so that the nut cannot become undone by the vibrations

Does this splitpin have a tendency to fall out?
Thys, could this be what happened to you?

What could one do to prevent the splitpin from being pulled out? Cabletie!?!?

I wouldn't recommend a cable tie no, a split pin is to stop it coming completely undone but the nut actually bends the split pin
That nut needs to be torqued correctly and see how close that comes to the holes for the pin

There are other pins like a cotter pin



hope this helps

Those split pins will never just fall out if they're curled back, don't worry about them. Your failure was as a result of the ball joint itself failing, not a very common thing, at least not common without warring signs of it being worn .... things like it being noisy, shudders or pulling to the side when braking etc.

Yeah Roy, on the Ford 1 of the 3 bolts holding the ball joint fell out, one was loose, and the 3rd one broke due to strain put on it because the other 2 was not helping to carry the load. When the 3rd one broke all the stress was transferred to the loose bolt, which also broke off a little while later.

Luckily we were in the Richtersveld NP when this happened,going down a river bed, where we couldnt drive faster than 4km/h. Heard a bang, but thought it was the chassis hitting a rock. When we stopped about 200m later we saw a very unhappy left front wheel.

I must say this though, it being a Ford made repairs easy. Why? Because Ford uses standard threads, and I could use normal stainless M8 bolts to screw the ball joint back on. If it was a Hilux with Toyota Special Fine Medium Exotic Thread, I would not have been able to do a field repair unless I had nuts/bolts with the right threads..

Took us a cup of coffee and 2 ciggies to get the Ford back on all 4's and I think it is still running with those bolts holding the ball joint..

Mud Dog wrote:Those split pins will never just fall out if they're curled back, don't worry about them. Your failure was as a result of the ball joint itself failing, not a very common thing, at least not common without warring signs of it being worn .... things like it being noisy, shudders or pulling to the side when braking etc.

Now you tell me....
I thought the shudder, was due to a slightly flat tyre. hhmmm.... I will need to pay careful attention to these small tell-tale signs in future. Thanks.

ThysdJ wrote:... I must say this though, it being a Ford made repairs easy. Why? Because Ford uses standard threads, and I could use normal stainless M8 bolts to screw the ball joint back on. If it was a Hilux with Toyota Special Fine Medium Exotic Thread, I would not have been able to do a field repair unless I had nuts/bolts with the right threads..
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Thanks to my Hilux, I have a tap/die set which is fairly impressive! :alvarin:

Special Fine Medium Exotic Thread

hi Roy hope all's well with you & the lux

Royco wrote:Thanks to my Hilux, I have a tap/die set which is fairly impressive!

You're too modest Mr Royco.. For an IT oukie to have a tap/die set is VERY impressive...

Nie cool nie Hello R...!!

Andre du preez wrote:Nie cool nie Hello R...!!

... en nou wag ek net wir die regmaak......

Got my bakkie back today!

Now... what is this thing? Does it matter if it's slightly bent? Here is the right hand side - the straight one!

Stabalizer,should not be bent.

Thunder02 wrote:Stabalizer,should not be bent.

i agree take it back and tell them too fix it