NUUT OP FORUM EN SOEK HULP

sakbal · Post by **sakbal** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:05 pm

Ek is nuut op die forum en vind dit baie interessant. Ek soek egter advies, is besig om â€˜n VW 1800 carb op my 94 D/C 4x4 te sit. Ek het nou al alles gekoop en laat maak wat ek nodig het. My vraag is wat maak ek met al daai vacuum pype op die standaard carb? En is dit die moeite werd??? My Hilux is nog stock standard (soos hy van sy ma af kom). Is daar manne wat die ombouing gedoen het? Laat weet asb.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:22 pm

Welcome Sakkie, I am sure you will enoy your stay here.

Unfortunately there is no one on this forum that has done the conversion to a golf carb yet (unless he is in hiding) but there has been some talk about it.
You may be able to help us in being the test subject for the conversion

As for the vacuum pipes, I assume you have electronic ignition which means you have two pipes coming from the dissy and a whole host of others running all over the place. Take a look at these two threads. the first is a discussion over the carb and the second the original vacuum hose information, you may be able to figure out which pipes can be blocked off. How many vacuum ports does the new carb have? and where are they coming from? IIRC it has only two, one for the accelerator diaphragm pump, the other I can't remember.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1143 and
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1124

If you upload some pictures of what you have we might be able to help a little easier.

DOELLOOS · Post by **DOELLOOS** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:25 pm

Hallo Balsak, en welkom hier....

My eerste vraag is wat jy verwag om uit die modifikasie te kry? Ek het nog nie van so iets gehoor nie, en dit klink vir my vreemd. Sal graag wil help.

sakbal · Post by **sakbal** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:42 pm

Dankie vir die verkoming. â€šn Vriend van my het n tyd terug vir my n mail gestuur waar daar n ou in PE is wat dit gedoen het en volgens hom werk dit soos n bom. Ek is seker almal van ons soek beter petrol verbruik deesdae. Al die spares kos my nou R1000-00. Al wat ek nou moet doen is om aan die werk te spring en dit te doen, maar in die agter kop is daar maar n twyfel. Ek gaan my oorspronklike air box hou maar het reeds n Bush Wackier air cleaner in. Ek sal eers oor 2 weke kan begin. As daar nog manne is met raad laat weet asb.

Niel · Post by **Niel** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:17 pm

Welkom Sakkie, ek is seker jy sal dit geniet op die forum

Post by **Family_Dog** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:46 pm

Hi Sakkie, en welkom aan die forum

Die modifikasie is deur iemand gedoen op 'n ander forum, ongelukkig het daardie forum "belly-up" gegaan. Maar, wat ek wel onthou, het hy baie goeie woorde gehad om te praat van die modifikasie.

Vat asb. 'n paar fotos as jy joune doen, veral op die bracket, accelerator kabel en enige mods wat nodig is.

As ek reg onthou, het daardie persoon 10km/litre gekry na die modifikasie en hy't gesÃª die Hilux trek baie beter as vantevore.

'Skuus vir die taal foute hier in, vandag is maar een van daai dae...

-F_D

Post by **luxman** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:05 pm

Naand Sakbal

Wil net gou hoor hoe ver is jy met die "conversion". Ons het nog een om te doen, die slag met die 2.4

Groete

Niel · Post by **Niel** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:15 pm

Welkom by die forum Matt en geniet

sakbal · Post by **sakbal** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:57 pm

ek begin volgende week met my bakkie se carb. ek sal julle op hoogte van stand van sake. fotos sal ek plaas op die form van wat ek gedoen het. ek glo na die seisoen sal ons weet of dit die regte move was of nie. ek gaan my bakkie aan alle denkbare maniere toets en sal laat weet. en o ja, luxman as jy my nie glo nie kom kyk self, sal die yskas aan sit. (weet nie wies die swaarste op petrol ,ek of my bakkie nie) laat weet net wanneer jy land. groete en n geseende kersfees en voorspoedige nuwe jaar aan al die hilux manne.

Post by **luxman** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:43 pm

Dankie Neil ek glo ek sal dit geniet.

Sakbal, ek wag vir die koue yskas, sal laat weet sodra ek land.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:43 pm

Hi, wil net weet of die golf carb mod gedoen is?
Mark

blikoor · Post by **blikoor** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:41 pm

Teoreties gesproke sal die 1800 carb se vloei volume te klein wees om die 2200 enjin te voer,
behoort tot op 4000rpm goed te trek maar bo dit swak. Maar die teorie en praktyd werk nie altyd saam nie, ek is ook nuuskierig.
AS dit nie werk nie kan jy `n weber 36DCD probeer. Al sy binne goed kan verander om by enige enjin te pas.
Onthou as jy die rubber mounting behou moet die carb gegrond word.
Toets die CO% in die ry (minstens 1%),`n te arm mengsel sal die kleppe brand. :roll:

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:00 pm

blikoor wrote:Teoreties gesproke sal die 1800 carb se vloei volume te klein wees om die 2200 enjin te voer,
behoort tot op 4000rpm goed te trek maar bo dit swak. Maar die teorie en praktyd werk nie altyd saam nie,

Tom

Die teorie is nie heeltemal korrek nie. Onthou dat 'n engine het 'n ideale petrol tot lug ratio wat gehandhaaf moet word. So as 'n Carb 16 dele lug vir een deel petrol moet lewer sal dit nie saakmaak of die engine wat die lug insuig 'n 1300 of 'n 2200 is nie. Solank die keel van die carb groot genoeg is om genoeg volume lug te lewer sal hy werk. Obviously sal enige carb dan wel genoeg petrol moet kan lewer om die lug lewering te match. Dis hoekom al die Golfs (1300/1600/1800) met dieselfde carb kan werk.

Kom ek stel dit anders. "n 2200 se carb sal nie te veel petrol lewer aan 'n 1300 engine nie, want die engine sal net soveel lug insuig wat nodig is en die regte hoeveelheid petrol daarmee saam

SYRON CONVERSIONS · Post by **SYRON CONVERSIONS** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:58 pm

Sorry I do not understand all this Afrikaanse taal, but the carb from the VW will not work, you need to use a carb that is designed for a vehicle that will be driven on angles, up steep hills and down declines.

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:21 am

SYRON CONVERSIONS wrote:Sorry I do not understand all this Afrikaanse taal, but the carb from the VW will not work, you need to use a carb that is designed for a vehicle that will be driven on angles, up steep hills and down declines.

Says Who?

Toybox · Post by **Toybox** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:48 pm

anyone made progress with a VW carb conversion? I'm keen on the idea but worried about incline stalls and so on....

blikoor · Post by **blikoor** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:31 pm

Ja.......OU BUL. Met vloeivolume praat ek nie van mengsel nie dit is die groote van die venturies in die carb wat die vloei bepaal, die grotes word aangepas by die enjin se lug verplasing.
BV. n 1300 sal n primere venturie van so 18mm he en n sekondere van so 22mm.
Waar n 2.2L so 22mm primere en so 28mm sekonder sal he. Daarom dat ek se dat die 4y
onderlangs goed sal trek maar op bo langs uit asem gaan hardloop.
Die petrol lug verhouding word deur die air en main jets se groote bepaal nogal n tydsame storie
om dit perfek te kry. Beste is n dyno of n 12v CO meter waarmee jy kan ry.

Post by **luxman** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:52 pm

Hey, Sakbal, wat maak die vwobbelu carb? Lat wiet bietjie dan kyk ons so oor 'n Saterdag middag na die "performance"

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:19 am

Luxman lees hier

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2097

SO.......OU KATJIE guess jou vloeivolume teorie het toe nie water (of is dit nou bradstofmengsel) gedra nie

Smaak my die Golf carb se venturies is toe wel groot genoeg om genoeg lugvloei vir die 4Y te voorsien. Onthou die butterfly restrict die lugvloei op laer revolusies nie noodwendig the venturie nie. Dus sal 'n engine met 'n kleiner engine volume minder lug mengsel inneem as 'n groter een met dieselfde size venturies.

Bushwacker · Post by **Bushwacker** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:37 am

Al daaraan gedink om 2 carbs op te sit, dan is daar genoeg vloei en goed van alles...
Welkom Sakkie.

Post by **luxman** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:53 pm

BenHurBul

Dankie vir die "link", het hom gelees maar niemand kan regtig se of dit gaan werk nie. Dink ek gaan maar die proef konyn moet wees en kyk of dit werk sodra ek by die huis is.

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:16 pm

Man ek dink 'n hele klomp ouens stel belang en sal dalk bereid wees om R 100 the skenk vir R&D.

Ek is seker ek sal Cassie kan convince om proef konyn te wees. Dan kan hy die Carb koop en ons kan 'n adapterplate laat CNC cut. Die eerste een sal duurder kos want die ou moet dit eers teken maar daarna sal dit goedkoper kos om duplikate te laat maak. Ons kan syne dan ook laat dyno om die regte jetting te verkry en daarna kan die ander ouens net die selfde jets gebruik wat hulle seker so 95% akurate results sal gee soos die een wat gedyno was.

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:31 am

Bennie, generally speaking, wat gaan so carb voor?

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:51 am

Ek wietie sal maar moet uitvind, ons sal gesels as jy terug is vannie swazi rally af.

Post by **pietpetoors** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:45 pm

Ek het nog laas so carb vir my Golf bakkie by Midas gekoop vir R700.

blikoor · Post by **blikoor** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:14 pm

BenHurBul wrote:Luxman lees hier
SO.......OU KATJIE guess jou vloeivolume teorie het toe nie water (of is dit nou bradstofmengsel) gedra nie

Ek se weer : DIE TEORIE EN PRAKTYD WERK NIE ALTYD SAAM NIE.
As die Golf carb werk is ek bly vir al die 4y eienaars ons kan almal doen met beter brandstof verbruik.
Onthou net daai grond draad.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:30 pm

Just remember, you need the genuine VW carb. The Midas carb does not work, according to what Lindsay has stated.

Come on guys, who else is going to give this a try? You know you should do so, for the sake of better fuel consumption. If nobody else tries this, I guess I'll have no option but to buy another 4Y Hilux to test it out myself!

-F_D

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:36 pm

You can always install Bulldog's original engine into Shorty

SYRON CONVERSIONS · Post by **SYRON CONVERSIONS** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:48 pm

FD just think how this old red Hilux in my garden will look in your garden at home, I had an offer of R67 000. the other day, still waiting to hear from Christopher, it has the 4Y that you can play around with

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:13 pm

Uncle Eric

My favouritist uncle in all the world. If you buy the SFA from Simon I will keep it for you, do the carb conversion or sommer another EFI...

I promise to wash it every week.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:44 pm

My dearest nephew Bennie,

I considered it, but... well, you know... red is such a yucky and aggresive colour! So I have decided to give it a miss....

I think Christopher is aiming too high for that vehicle, he will sell it easily enough if he drops his price by R20K or so.

Actually, I have another 4Y engine, newly overhauled, perhaps I should install it into Maltese Dog....

-F_D

SYRON CONVERSIONS · Post by **SYRON CONVERSIONS** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:50 am

Bennie then you will have two red Hilux's, it is a good thing you do not drink alcohol, otherwise if you were drunk you may not know which one to climb into.

Family Dog is also my uncle in the furniture store :roll:

SYRON CONVERSIONS · Post by **SYRON CONVERSIONS** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:55 am

FD I agree fully, however it is his vehicle and he must make up his own mind what he wants to do with it, it just depends how much he is wanting the money.

It is like my Hilux, if I take into consideration of all the money and time spent on it, I would have to sell it for over R150 000. but because I do not owe anything on it and I still enjoy driving it, I did tell somebody that if they brought me R90 000. they can buy it but I do not have to.

One last question, in the morning when you get up, and you have washed the stuff out of your eyes and had a cup of tea and then you go towards the key hook, how do you decide which vehicle to drive?

I normally check which has the most fuel in it. Or what mood I am in.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:07 am

SYRON CONVERSIONS wrote:
One last question, in the morning when you get up, and you have washed the stuff out of your eyes and had a cup of tea and then you go towards the key hook, how do you decide which vehicle to drive?

I normally check which has the most fuel in it. Or what mood I am in.

Depends normally on which set of keys I find first. I'm always misplacing keys. :evil:

No Bennie, that is not due to old age, I have always had this problem from day one!

-F_D

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:37 am

Family_BullDog wrote:
No Bennie, that is not due to old age, I have always had this problem from day one!

-F_D

When was day one? Definitionally not when you were little, since ox wagon's did not have keys.

Or did you count day one from your 80th birthday

Post by **Family_Dog** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:29 pm

Note to self: In future, I must moderate all of Bennie's posts!

-F_D

Niel · Post by **Niel** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:48 pm

Gents, play nicely now

Eric , I will help

Post by **Family_Dog** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:10 pm

Thank you Niel, I know it will be a monumental task

+

-F_D

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:21 pm

8) 8)

Post by **CasKru** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:14 pm

My ganade... ek draai skaars my rug en kyk wat hoeveel stront praat julle :) Iemand moes dit seker doen in my afwesigheid :)

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:58 am

I think you should keep it real.... Toyota parts on Toyota engines.. No to conversions.. stay pure...

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:11 am

Shoe Thys waar val jy uit? Laaste antwoord op die bespreking was 4 jaar gelede?

Post by **CasKru** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:16 am

pietpetoors wrote:Shoe Thys waar val jy uit? Laaste antwoord op die bespreking was 4 jaar gelede?

Dis daai pappagaaislaai

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:19 am

Ek weet!!! Lekker ne??

Post by **CasKru** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:31 am

ThysdJ wrote:Ek weet!!! Lekker ne??

Wassshuuuup

SYRON CONVERSIONS · Post by **SYRON CONVERSIONS** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:39 am

So at the end of the day what actually happened to the fitment of a VW Carb to this vehicle?

Somebody showed us a short video clip of a vw racing over small hills and angles, I say racing, I did not say that this 4x4 is going to race, I said that it would not work on angles when traveling slowly!!!!