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My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:14 pm
by 4 runner oldie
Hi Guys ,
I have had vehicle for many years intend keeping for many years yet .
Well questions should i buy New 4y carby Engine.
A Bit Dearer ,.......................New 4y efi Engine .
Assuming New 4 y efi comes with ecu unit .
Questions is other changes needed too run 4efi if i go that way .
ps. Vehicle is sr5 model . Power steering air/con . Manual and of a course sfa .
Please all coments sound advice Welcome .

Russell from Australia .
pps , One more question Whats does Bakkie mean ??? lol.

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:18 pm
by Stubs
Hi there Russell !!! hows good Old OZ !!! well I would say the 4Y EFI..MR B on the forum here is a guru on these engines and will be able to give much better tech info etc.....i have a standard 4Y in my Bakkie :mocking: its a 89 Hilux SFA.....sure some more info will come pouring in !!! good to see we are expanding...mind you a bit far to have a Get together though !!! LOL....

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:25 pm
by Maddoglips
Russel

If I recall, the 3Y and 4 Y are the same blocks, just different bores/strokes increasing the displacement. Therefore it should be a straight swap.

As for the newer 4Y coming with the management, I really doubt it tbh, you'd have to source either an original 1 along with it's harness or buy the after market type with harness.

4Y EFI, is a beaut, I used to run 1 and way better then any carb setup.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:15 pm
by Mountain Man
Russell, Bakkie = UTE in Aussie Speak.

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:39 pm
by 4 runner oldie
Good stuff ,
Guys , Just rechecking prices 4y efi seems overpriced . 2rz /3rz seems competitive .
But would they be worth the trouble .Too much strain on trans/diffs etc . At least i can thrash begazzeas out of 3 y bush bashing my pocket dont hurt .
ps.. Aus is Kool . Will splash photos when cuu cuu kodak system working proper .




ooops Would 2rz /3rz Fit for Starters ??..........lol

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:57 pm
by LouisZ
Hi Russell,

Rather try to get the Efi intake manifold and Outlet Manifold from a 3Y-E and the Dizzy. Then look at aftermarket Ecu that will run the setup. All more needed,
1. High pressure pump 3bar
2. High pressure fuel filter.
3. Low pressure fuel filter in front of pump
4. Air Flow sensor
5. Idle control valve.
6. Extra temp sensor.
7. Some extra wiring.
8. 2 x 90 degree silicon bends between the airbox and intake manifold.
9. Few fuel hose clamps.
10. Fwe home made brackets for ICV and fuel pump.
11. New Intake&Outlet Manifold gasket.
12. Modify your trottle cable.

Above are just about that I could quickly remember, this setup will give about 76Hp on 31" wheels. For 4x4'ing it is almost better as a diesel at low rpm.

Louis

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:31 am
by 4 runner oldie
Hi , The options for me being between Brand new complete 4y / 4y efi . Anyone know if Brand new complete 2rz /3rz suitable . Russell

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:18 am
by Willy_trucker
hi there,

are you still loking for a anew engine for your SR5?? i have a 3Y engine with 4Y distributer, goes really well. if your interested im in brissy 0434363426

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:43 am
by Hoppy
The 3RZ is the best conversion you can do, enough power, and ultra reliable

You will need: The 3rz bell housing ( fits on your box ), the Radiator and hoses, management system.

The only fabrication will be the 2 brackets between the engine mounts and block

It is well worth the effort

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:18 am
by 4 runner oldie
Willy_trucker wrote:hi there,

are you still loking for a anew engine for your SR5?? i have a 3Y engine with 4Y distributer, goes really well. if your interested im in brissy 0434363426
Thanks think im ok for time been . :thumbup:
Hoppy wrote:The 3RZ is the best conversion you can do, enough power, and ultra reliable

You will need: The 3rz bell housing ( fits on your box ), the Radiator and hoses, management system.

The only fabrication will be the 2 brackets between the engine mounts and block

It is well worth the effort
Thanks is interesting option .mmmmmmm :shh: :cool:


Update ordered 4y from china . I insisted on payment using paypal/ escrow only for better protection. Engine company says thats fine . Weeks later found out Order was cancelled by them . My money was refunded but i was disapointed after there promise etc . As site says escrow etc welcome as payment method .
Anyways good news for me , Whilst i would have been thrilled with and ready for a brand new engine . I twisted my cousins arm . He was all for new engine as well lol. We took head off . Very lucky on testing just needed skimming . Ive been concerned for ages perhaps lots damage . Have been running via chemiweld last 2 years .

Now next chapter . Lots life left in this Hilux yet Id love too get hold of one of those vw jetta carbs .

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:44 pm
by 4 runner oldie
Hi Guys ,
Picking up a complete new 4 y carby model engine locally next week .
Through checking other post the list too swap over from original engine is . If ive got it Right .

Sump......... oil pick up ?
Carburator ......Original recently overhauled .
Distributor ......Original has points .
Visious Fan .
Starter Motor .
Alternator .
Possibly Pulleys etc for power steering air con .
Clutch .... Guessing 4wd drive clutch to be different
New Radiator Hoses . Original well ive never replaced them in twenty years and they r still good ..lol .


Check Engine mounts .

ps . 3 y engine only lasted less than 12 months on last repair No 4 went again . Is running fine but has Sealup helping out .

Your comments and sound advice most welcome Thanks Russell .

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:39 am
by 4 runner oldie
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ps .. trying too work camera ...lol
Russell from Australia .
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Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:00 am
by P Smit
If I had to replace an engine in such a bakkie, I would opt for a Lexus V8 import with a G-box. Total cost of coversion between R2dk-R30k. Lots of torque and power, more economical than the 4 cyl motor.

Must be done by a reputable specialist. I've these conversions on various vehicles and the work great!

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:07 pm
by 4 runner oldie
P Smit wrote:If I had to replace an engine in such a bakkie, I would opt for a Lexus V8 import with a G-box. Total cost of coversion between R2dk-R30k. Lots of torque and power, more economical than the 4 cyl motor.

Must be done by a reputable specialist. I've these conversions on various vehicles and the work great!

Hi Phillip ,
Thank you for your comment but not for me.. , I just chug/ chug along no speeding tickets etc ..I do agree v8s r more economical for slight use . My attentions is too keep this vehicle rest of my life . Just installing a new 4y engine is fine .. Russell

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:30 am
by 4 runner oldie
4 runner oldie wrote:Hi Guys ,
Picking up a complete new 4 y carby model engine locally next week .
Through checking other post the list too swap over from original engine is . If ive got it Right .

Sump......... oil pick up ?
Carburator ......Original recently overhauled .
Distributor ......Original has points .
Visious Fan .
Starter Motor .
Alternator .
Possibly Pulleys etc for power steering air con .
Clutch .... Guessing 4wd drive clutch to be different
New Radiator Hoses . Original well ive never replaced them in twenty years and they r still good ..lol .


Check Engine mounts .

ps . 3 y engine only lasted less than 12 months on last repair No 4 went again . Is running fine but has Sealup helping out .

Your comments and sound advice most welcome Thanks Russell .

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:34 am
by 4 runner oldie
Had new 4 y engine for 18 months now about 15000klms .
Only issues had fuel pump gasket leak from new .
Ticking noise when not under load . Have been checked out timing etc . two mechanics say no issue . But have time next month too hopefully fix . Just annoying .

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:23 pm
by Mud Dog
Cool! I wouldn't worry too much about the 'ticking' noise .... could just be a hydraulic lifter or perhaps timing chain. If ou were going to have issues, you'd already have had them. ;-)

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:07 am
by Wikkels
Hey Russell, My bakkie's 4Y imported engine also had a ticking noise and I have replaced the hydraulic lifters several times to cure the itch, but without it being a success. Don’t know what type of oil you are using in the engine, but a local lube guru advised me to try Total's Quartz 5000 20W50 engine oil and this had fixed the ticking noise.

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:47 am
by 4 runner oldie
Thanks guys due for oil change . Yes ticking seems not damaging just annoying .

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:05 pm
by 4 runner oldie
Update , New China Engine . Now 35000 klms no oil usage but does go very black quick perhaps fuel ? . Electronic dizzy broke , Alternater same Parts from my older original 3 y I fitted in place . All great . Ticking noise is a bit quieter not quiet like the sweet 3y ive had for like ever .
Otherwise it will outlive me .. lol

Re: My 1985 hilux 4 runner 3y carby needs a new engine .

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:15 pm
by pietpetoors
That is good to know. Have you always used the same oil? I find some oils go black and sticky quicker than others