Hi & 22R EFI (Again)

[charliedave]

Hi Everyone,

New to the forum. (First Post)
I have just bought a 1995 Hilux SFA 2.4 (22R) (off of an ad placed on this forum).
I am very excited about the vehicle and very happy with it (Drove her up from Cape Town to Joburg and she went very well indeed!).
Also looking forward to reading lots of advice from other owners and hopefully dispensing some at some point as well??

The first question I would like to post however is the question of the 22R EFI conversion.
I know there are a number of posts on the subject already, and I have read most of them, I think.
This conversion is definitely something that I would like to do in the not to distant future.

So I was wondering, more specifically:
1. Where one would acquire the parts? (Are there local importers of the EFI manifold?).
(I know someone mentioned US and Aussie imports but how does one go about that? What are the contacts?)
2. What pros and cons have people who have done the conversion found?
3. Would a completely new engine not be a better answer? Such as the 2.7i or the 2.4 VVTi (2AZ-FE) out of a RAV4? (as I know you can get both these engines from the local importers!)

Any advise?

Thanks in advance.

[CraigC]

Howzit David, welcome to the forum. I am sure you will get all the advise and help you can ask for. I myself will be asking those same questions about the 4y EFI conversion, finding these parts are not that easy. Good luck and enjoy your bakkie!

NB! Congratulation on your purchase as well, good choice!

[GI Jane]

Hi David, and welcome to the forum... sure you are going to enjoy your vehicle....But always have to laugh at you guys.... conversions, conversions, conversions... and here I am just happy with my 2.4 22r just as it is... what can I say...

[cprinsloo]

Hi David,

The EFi conversion is definitely worth it, problem is to get the manifold. AFAIK the 22RE was only sold in the USA in the 80's, very scarce. I bought mine on Ebay, but they are very scarce there now as well.

Good luck,

C

[Stef]

Just completed my EFI on my LTD and I must say it was worth it. Got mine from someone that converted to Lexus; fortunately he was willing to sell the EFi seperately

No matter what some okes tell you..fit an ICV. Took care of the cold start/idling problems I experienced, and if you can , get an optical pickup dizzy.

Conversion is dead easy to do once you have all the parts.

[charliedave]

Hi,

Thanks for the replies so far. (hope to get a few more)
Would particularly like to see if anyone has any thoughts on the RAV4 2.4L engine???

Hi David, and welcome to the forum... sure you are going to enjoy your vehicle....But always have to laugh at you guys.... conversions, conversions, conversions... and here I am just happy with my 2.4 22r just as it is... what can I say...

GI Jane . . . I totally agree with you . . . .I am also happy with her stock standard!!! Just a bit scared about what will eventually happen to my pocket as petrol prices rise and rise, thats all.
(I promise it is not about going faster!)

Thanks again.

[JohanM]

Hi,

Thanks for the replies so far. (hope to get a few more)
Would particularly like to see if anyone has any thoughts on the RAV4 2.4L engine???

Hi David,

Excuse my ignorance but the RAV4 only came out with a 2.0L engine with VVTi fitted. THe Diesel engine is the same engine that was used in the Toyota Avensis!!

VVT-I on a 2.0L motor for your SFA is not in my opinin going to worthwhile. The VVTi engines like to be revved and the gearing your SFA will be incorrect to match the engine charateristics. Rather stay with the 22R motor and do the fuel injection conversion. Also bear in Mind that the torque figure of the rav is not much higher than the 22R engine in standard form.

Other things to consider is cooling issues which can result from the transversely mounted engine with electrical fans vs the std in line 4 Setup with viscous fan.

[niclemaitre]

Spend a little time searching the forum, someone posted a link to a website where they sell complete EFI setups for around R7k. I know that you can get all the parts on eBay for a lot less if you look around a bit but you might not find them all in one place and have to buy from several sellers.

Here is the link

[charliedave]

Hi Johan,

I agree, a 2.0L engine is definitely not going to be strong enough.
However, as far as I can tell, the engine I am referring to is the 2.4 litre 2AZ-FE engine which is a 4 cylinder in-line 16 valve double overhead cam design with VVT-i
and as far as I can tell it is a petrol engine that was apparently fitted to RAV4's between 2004 & 2008 (though perhaps not in South Africa)???? (info from wikipedia - not the most reliable source - I know).

However, this engine is still available in South Africa through Japan Auto Trading in Benoni / Boksburg???

Thanks for the links to the R7k EFi setup .... Very very tempting

Thanks for the comments.

[Barrie]

Hi David and Nic,
The link has indeed a nice setup.
I sourced a simular, but used setup from a guy in USA (from a link I got from a forum member), for $100(With the exchange rate and commision at that time R1050). He even included the original distributor. The setup was in very good shape. (If you pm me, I wil gladly give you the guy's name. He is on facebook.)
I landed the parts for more or less R2800 in SA (Postage ($100)and import tax(R700) included).
I converted the distributor to a optical pickup dizzy. R550
The Dictator Management and Ignitor with wiring job, cost me +- R3000.
Fuel Pump and hp fuel filter R1000
Wiring, pipes, brackets and clamps also to be added.
It is certainly a valid option to consider. imo

[LouisZ]

The R7k manifolds is just the manifold. The injectors, fuel pressure regulator and in some cases not the throttle body included.

If you import also include the Efi distributer. Keep in mind sometimes when u import things can go wrong like a injector faulty, or even a fuel pressure regulator. Make sure there is almost 3 different 2.4 22RE setups. The early 80 to about 91', then you get the 92 to 94 and then from there the 95 onwards manifolds that had the option of the turbo with it.

Difference between the the lot is the throttle body mentioned in the 1st lot face downward, here you have to get the top waterhose for radiator with, the other 2 has the throttle body inline with the manifold, on these your injectors are diff to the earlier models with oval plugs, make sure with these models you get the injector plugs with.