1979 Toyota Hilux 18R 4x4 LWB Restoration

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Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:39 am

Hi Agteros

Ja, daai bakkie van jou is ook classic. Ek mis my SFA D/C.
My beste vriend, Xander Human, het ook so n bakkie met die import bin en diff. Hy het ook nog die "bench seat" in soos my 79. Hy het ook sy oorspronklike 4Y motor in en hy is daai classic cream kleur met die oranje/bruinerige strepe aan die kant. Mooi opgepas en versien.. ens ens.

Maar eers oor die roes:
Soos jy sien in die thread, het ek die fender panels en bonnet vervang. Die oues was geroes en het body putty en krakies in gehad. Nou dit is so dat niks onvervangbaar of regmaakbaar is nie, maar die koste om die oorspronklike fenders en bonnet te resoreer sou vrek baie gewees het. Dit is dan beter om met nuwe panele te vervang.
Ek het ook die tailgate vervang met (die oue was vrot!) n amper splinter nuwe een wat van n ou wit 4Y afgekom het. Ja die "nuwe" tailgate is ook behandel en geverf om by die bakkie te pas.
Die res van die voertuig is gestrip en ge-sandblast om al die roes te verwyder en gaatjies is toe geswys. Dan is daar maar paar lae primer opgesit en eventueel geverf.

Geniet die res van die week.

Groete

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Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:17 am

Hi Almal

Die tyd wat Great White by Pieter in Delmas spandeer het, kom nou tot n einde, en ek sal binnekort hom weer in Pretoria hê om aandag te gee aan die laaste paar dingetjies, voordat hy na my toe kom in Natal.

Oom Gert Castle wat in die Delmas omgewing bly, was so gaaf om vir my nog n paar fotos te stuur. (oom Gert is n vlienier, maar hy is maar "ou skool" so ek sal hom maar wys hoe om sy kamera ordentlik te gebruik as ek hom weer in Mosambiek raakloop.. :D: )

Die taailgate is nou geverf en gefit, die liggies en bedrading is gedoen, die bak is behandel met n tipe bakkie liner en al die glas en gestripte dele is weer geinstalleer. Die bullbar is ook geverf en die bakkie is al bietjie gery..

Ek sit gou die fotos op..


Ek sal nog laai soos wat ek aangaan met die ander beplande dingetjies, soos die bladvere ens.

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Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:19 am

Gert 1
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Gert 2 en 3
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:23 am

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Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:27 am

That all for now.. :oops:
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:29 am

nou's ek jaloers....
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:33 am

Johann nou het jy 'n Legende. :thumbup: Lyk baie mooi werk gedoen.
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:14 am

Dit lyk of hy nou van die Toyota showroom vloer af kom! Netjies!!
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:43 am

Two more Pics from Pieter Fourie himself..
Looks good... :clap:

Now to just go and get Great White :dance1:
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:46 am

Just to refresh everyone's memory..
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:02 pm

Johann

Jou paneelklopper het die belangrikste vergeet.Die 4 W D is nie agter op die tailgate geverf nie.
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:39 pm

Hahah Ja Dawie (Lollie)

Ek het hom gevra om dit nie op te sit nie.
Ek het reeds n sticker bestel wat mooi gaan pas."4WD"

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Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:43 pm

Johann - ek is verstom om te hoor dat daar nog "nuwe" panele vir jou bakkie beskikbaar is. Selfs die feit dat jy nog "stickers" kry vir die bakkie. Wonderlik!
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Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:30 pm

Looking very good, Johan! Now you need to install an equally good alarm system so that Great White does not acquire a new owner without your knowledge.

That truck really is a Toyota legend!


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Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:10 pm

Great job done there!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:36 pm

Baie nice !! :cooldude:
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:27 pm

Really nice job! Well done
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:02 pm

Very very nice job done. :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:23 pm

Jis Johann, welgedaan :thumbup:

Nou's hy goed vir nog 40 jaar....
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Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:45 pm

Hi Johan

Wel gedaan, ek het gedink jy is besig om 'n mal perd op te saal maar toe nie.

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Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:24 am

Great restoration Johann, my old man owned one of these between 1992 and 2008. It gave incredible service during this period and he still spots in it traffic earning its keep around East London. I have the 18R Toyota Manual lying around at home. If you don't have one in the cubby hole, just send me a PM and I can post it to you.
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:51 am

Thanks Gbogh

I defenitely want it and will PM you right away.

Thanks

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Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:53 am

Great White at home..!
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:04 am

Now for part 2 of the project..
Rubberize, front leave springs, clutch etc etc etc ;-)
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:41 pm

Ek sien nog steeds nie die 4 W D plakker nie.
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Awsum spray job....
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:13 am

Hi Lollie

Die bakkie staan in Pretoria. Die plakkers vir die bakkie is by my in Natal.
Ek sal dit opsit as ek die bakkie gaan haal daar bo en dan sommer vir jou n foto PM.

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Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:22 am

Hi Mofasa

A job like this can be done in approx 2 weeks.
However, I was not in any hurry and explained to Pieter that he can take his time and also work on his other jobs at the same time.
From when actual work started on my bakkie it took just over 4 weeks. But like I said - no hurry was required.

As for the price; I discussed with Pieter a good price/deal, and in return he wanted me to spread the word about his quality work. Also, the windscreen and lights etc was extra, while he sourced the new bonnet and panels from Frederick Lange (Cruiser forum member and importer of all 4x4 fittings, exesories, autobody etc etc)

It cost me less than 20K, but for as quote I suggest contacting Pieter directly.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:51 pm

Johann Prinsloo wrote:Hi Lollie

Die bakkie staan in Pretoria. Die plakkers vir die bakkie is by my in Natal.
Ek sal dit opsit as ek die bakkie gaan haal daar bo en dan sommer vir jou n foto PM.

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Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:14 pm

Johann

Pas daardie bakkie van jou baie mooi op.Ek huil nog elke dag snot en trane oor myne wat ek verkoop het
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:28 am

Morning guys

As you know, great white is resting in Pretoria and his autobody and paint job has been completed. :mrgreen:

So this past saturday, I flew up to JHB with my normal luggage for 3 days AND 4 x shock absorbers. I bought and paid for leaf springs from Kobe, and that was waiting for me at the warehouse in Jetpark. (poor friend that picked me up..had to drive me to pickup a set of front leave springs.. hehehe)
I decided to go with Monroe shocks as I was happy with them on my previous SFA. I settled for the extended shocks front and back.
The standard codes for my vehicle is M5454 in the front (same as 85 -98 SFA) and rear M8042. But as I said, I bought the extended gas magnum shocks as I knew that Great White would get a lift with the thicker blade pack.
Thus, for the front I bought AU16-1702 (made in Aus) and the rear M4445 (extended rear shocks for 85-98 SFA - had them on my D/C)
I got it all from my local Midas. They had to order and wait a day for the front ones as they are not that common.

Leaf springs: as the rear packs of Great White are still in great condition (even under load) I decided to only replace the front packs - they were not flat but bending negatively.. :lol:
The standard setup on this vehicle is normally a 4 blade pack. I decided to rather go with the 5 blade pack from Kobe as I have had the same on "Riffie", my previous SFA. And because I see a lot of guys even fitting 6 blade packs with thinner blades. So decided best is 5 blades.

I phoned Jaco at the warehouse and paid for the packs in advance and picked them up on Saturday morning after I touched down and phoned the security...

Fast Forward...
I got to my folks, jumped in great white and drove to Pretoria Springs in PTA west (gave me a good quote on the phone)

Plan was to:
1. Replace bushes front and back with Polyurethane bushes (24 in total)
2. Replace front leaf springs
3. Fit new shocks, front and back
4. If needed/possible fit extended shackles at the rear

With regards to no. 4 on the list.. They did not have stock of the extended shacles and had to order or make, which takes a couple of days.
SO, if the new 5 blade packs lifted the vehicle bit too much in the front, I had to maar drive uphill all teh time.. :oops:

Some pics, before I continue..
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:31 am

At Pretoria Spring works
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PTA springs 3
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:41 am

Front blades out
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:44 am

The rear..

And what would a workshop be without a plumber butt :twisted:
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:51 am

Front height. Wow!
Keep in mind the rear was still on stilts, but still..
Quite bloody high..
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:20 am

So, to make a long story short..

The front leaf springs (4 blade) was replaced with a 5 blade pack.
All bushes was replaced (polyurethane) front and back
The front shocks was fitted.

The rear shocks was not fitted..
In the Monroe manual there is only one shock specified for this model (M8042).
But because the specified front M5454 is interchangeable with the 79-84 and the 85-98 SFA and also the extended AU16-1702, I thought the same would apply to the rear.. :oops:

Obviously I was mistaken.. (die enigste keer, voor hierdie keer wat ek verkeerd was, was toe ek gedink het ek is verkeerd)

I was informed by Pretoria Springs (who gave me excellent service), that they unfortunately cant help me. They cannot exchange the shocks with their stock, nor did they have a different bush to sort out the size difference of the shock hole..
-the new shocks had a biger "bracket" or hole where the rubber bushes goes in-

Furthermore, Pta springs could not assist with the other (minor) problem: The front was now slightly higher than the rear.. And they dont have extended shacles for this..
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:31 am

So Monday morning I phoned Van Zyl's Spring works.

I spoke to a guy named Johan who was very helpfull and informed me that they do have the correct and high quality greasable shackles that I require.

So I made my way to them with Great White and swore my ass off because of all the new f*$king street names in and around Pretoria. :evil:

When I got there I was refered to Jannie by Johan and he worked with me from there on. What a great guy!

they fitted the shacles in next to no time. I also explained my predicament with the shocks and complained that I had to fly back with them..
Jannie immediatly got on the phone with his Midas rep to try and help me exchange my shocks with the standard specified shocks.

The shackles were fitted and Midas could not help me (which was a relief as I really wanted extended shocks, specialy with the new longer shackles)

Jannie was such a nice guy and said I must bring the shocks in and he guarantees that they will have the proper polyurethane bushes to make them fit..

But first, mondays pictures..
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:42 am

The shackles.
Beautiful :clap:
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:47 am

Standard shackle, compared to new 45mm longer
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:50 am

New shackles in.. :celebrate:
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:04 pm

Now the new shackles just lifted the rear enough to be in proportion the the front. It is perfect! :yahoo:
The vehicle is now perfectly level, back and front - with time the front will settle and drop a few mm. But that is fine. The 5 blade front pack will keep the correct shape. (It will as I had the same on my previous SFA with a heavier 22R motor and heavy bull bar - and that kept the correct shape for 3years and untill the day I sold it!)

So I was very happy on Monday when the shackles were fitted. Unfortunately I did not have the new Monroe shocks with me when I was there on Monday.. But Jannie promised that he could make a plan..

So Tuesday morning I was back at Van Zyl's (had to be quick as I had to fly back to KZN in the afternoon..)

Once Jannie had his hands on the shocks, he disappeard into a back room filled with bright yellow and green bushes and fittings, emerging with a better solution than Monroe gives themselves!

Jannie has Polyurethane bushes that fit my shocks with a steel insert that fits 100% snugly over the existing receiver tubes of this model Hilux.
Perfect!

Now he did not even charge me labour to fit my new shocks or forthe 8 new bolts he bought! (yes, he sent a driver to go and buy 8 new longer than std bolts for the wider bushes) Thanks Jannie.

I only paid for the bushes and thate price was cheap. I would definately recommend buying the bushes from them when fitting new shocks, as most shocks are supplied with soft rubber bushes and they dont last as long as Polyurethane.

Here comes the pics..
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:20 pm

Here you can see the 2 bushes that fit inside the diameter of the shock bracket. Through these 2 bushes goes the galv steel tube that fits snuggly (copper hammer helps) over the existing tube on the chassis and susspension plate.
This setup is slightly thicker/wider that the standard rubber bushes that comes with the shock.
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:26 pm

Fitting onto standard size tubes
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:32 pm

Top and bottom of shock fixed to bakkie, note washer and extended (slightly longer) new bolts
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:42 pm

Done..
Now just for the after pics, which is on my camera and not my phone.
Carera stayed in PTA.. :oops:

But Xander can go and maybe take some pics and send to me.. ?

Next on the list of things for Great White Is;
Universal joints and prop shaft balancing
Clutch kit replacement


Will keep you posted.

Cheers

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Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:02 pm

Looking very good. :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:23 pm

I cant beleive GW came out so nice...

Looking very good.
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jy het baie moed en baie werk wat voorle
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:46 pm

Kom jong, maak plan met daai kiekies, ons wil sien hoe lyk die ou nou van die kant af, hoe lyk sy "stance" met daai nuwe suspensie".
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:07 pm

Nothing beats that feeling when the truck gets this kinda attention :thumbup:
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:49 am

Hi Guys

So my friend Xander Human went to my folks house and took some pictures of Great White, after the suspension upgrade. (with his phone)

Now you can see the difference in the hight (will also load a before pic after I have loaded Xander's pics)
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:54 am

So as you can see, the balance between front and rear height is great and the vehicle got an overall lift with the 5 blade front leafsprings and the extended shacles at the back.

I will look for a picture where it still had the old suspension..
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:57 am

Compare this pic with the new right front view.. :razz:
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