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Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 12:09 pm
by Dadz Toy
Has anybody used a POT on a Diktator Std?
I want to install a POT on mine but I don't know what resistance to use.

I'm hoping someone here has experience.

Thanks!

Rich :cooldude:

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:09 pm
by Stef
Didn't know one could use a POT on the standard ECU...

What do you want to adjust?

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:21 pm
by Dadz Toy
The mixture Stef, I'm flooding out on climbs in 2nd LR which is freaking annoying.

R :cooldude:

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 4:09 pm
by Stef
Sounds to me like your mapping is not so lekker...


I looked at the diagram again and there is no connection/input for a pot though so it might require a hack, but the AFR is not controlled in an analogue manner where one could hook the pot up the adjust Voltage / Current to manipulate an actuator.
I could be wrong but as far as I know the mixture controlled by measuring airflow/TPS & the adding fuel accordingly via the injectors.

If there is indeed a way I'd be interested to see how it works.

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 4:44 pm
by Dadz Toy
The Dicktator has a triple pin POT lead out of the back.
Then in Setup you can chose the staged increments of adjustment.
I have a nice little collection of pots ranging from 5k up to 2000k.
Question is what size do I use, I can't afford to blow anything!

Rich :cool dude:

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:00 pm
by rigardt
what dictator do you have ?
I have one lying around here.
I can sponsor for some testing if you want.
don't want it. don't use it. so don't mind if it gets burnt !

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:03 pm
by Dadz Toy
Standard Dicktator nê

Do you perhaps have a Dicktator Igniter there too (TP100) boet??

R :cooldude:

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:15 pm
by rigardt
I have no idea what you are talking about.
this is what I have. might have the harness somewhere aswell

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:25 pm
by Dadz Toy
Yep, that's a STD Dicktator ECU, saam generation that Dadz runs on.

If you really don't mind parting with it, I'll pay the Courier costs nê.
Would be great to have a guinea pig/back-up unit for Dadz.

R :cooldude:

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:31 pm
by rigardt
sold to the highest bidder !!!
congratulations its yours.
not really sure how these work - they might have software updates so beware this one’s software might be older than the one you currently have !
also please share pics if it does burn out !!

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:52 pm
by Dadz Toy
Don't worry about the Software I can do that in cab!
Please PM me your account details and I'll send you necessaries for Postnet.

Lekker!!!


Rich :cooldude:

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 12:21 pm
by Stef
Dadz Toy wrote:The Dicktator has a triple pin POT lead out of the back.
Then in Setup you can chose the staged increments of adjustment.
I have a nice little collection of pots ranging from 5k up to 2000k.
Question is what size do I use, I can't afford to blow anything!

Rich :cool dude:

Didn't know that... :shock2:

Edit: Downloaded a later manual and they show it on pin 8, but ja , no pot value or any spec of what input it is i.e 0-5V.
I would use one with a really high value with 2 extreme pins between 0 & 12V and the center/adj pin of the pot on pin 8.

Check the 3 wires you mentioned & measure if there is a neg and +12V, if so the that is how it should be connected

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 4:57 pm
by Dadz Toy
Stef wrote: Edit: Downloaded a later manual and they show it on pin 8, but ja , no pot value or any spec of what input it is i.e 0-5V.
I would use one with a really high value with 2 extreme pins between 0 & 12V and the center/adj pin of the pot on pin 8.

Check the 3 wires you mentioned & measure if there is a neg and +12V, if so the that is how it should be connected
Thanks Stef!

I shall wait until the guinea pig ECU arrives 1st, then I'll give it a go!

Thanks again guys!


Rich :cooldude:

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:21 pm
by Dadz Toy
I loaded a copy of my map onto my spare Diktator, made sure the engine ran then started with my lowest value pot which is 1k.
The 1k worked beautifully and after a bit of experimental playing, I settled on a range of -12% to +12% fuelling.
I'm looking forward to seeing how what difference this will bring when leaning it back on the highway and riching up on steep ascents.
Main consideration right now is where to put the POT, I've got a pretty full dashboard!


Rich :cooldude:

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:13 pm
by ChrisF
Richard have you considered a "kick-down-switch" ?

Basically a switch under the accelerator pedal - when you go up a hill, floor it and the switch activate a resistor value for more fuel. Add a 10 second timer to get you up the hill or past the truck, then auto go down to the econo setting.


With maybe a manual over ride for when you are in the mood to burn some rubber .....

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:45 pm
by Dadz Toy
ChrisF wrote:Richard have you considered a "kick-down-switch" ?

Basically a switch under the accelerator pedal - when you go up a hill, floor it and the switch activate a resistor value for more fuel. Add a 10 second timer to get you up the hill or past the truck, then auto go down to the econo setting.


With maybe a manual over ride for when you are in the mood to burn some rubber .....
Interesting idea Chris!

I just found a foot switch in my electric bits bag, might give it some careful consideration nê.



Rich :cooldude:

Re: Correct POT size for Diktator STD

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:45 pm
by Dadz Toy
ChrisF wrote:Richard have you considered a "kick-down-switch" ?

Basically a switch under the accelerator pedal - when you go up a hill, floor it and the switch activate a resistor value for more fuel. Add a 10 second timer to get you up the hill or past the truck, then auto go down to the econo setting.


With maybe a manual over ride for when you are in the mood to burn some rubber .....
Interesting idea Chris!

I just found a foot switch in my electric bits bag, might give it some careful consideration nê.



Rich :cooldude: