Modify headlights to only come on when power is switched on

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Modify headlights to only come on when power is switched on

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I did this with the Tazz a while ago. Today it was the Hilux's turn.

It is a pain when you forget your Hilux's head lights on and find the battery completely drained when you return.

First you have to locate the fuse box in the engine compartment. When you open the bonnet and look at the engine, it will be that black box on the right just behind the battery.

When you open it, you will see some fuses and relays.

You have to loosen the fuse box by removing the three bolts as shown below, it takes a 10 spanner. You also have to remove the battery since it is very difficult to turn the fuse box upside down with the battery in position.

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You do not really have to open the fuse box to do the conversion, but it is good to know what is inside. The red relay is the one which switches the lights on and off. When you switch the head lights on you will hear something click in the engine compartment, that clicking sound comes from this relay.

This relay has permanent power on it. So whether the vehicle is switched on or not, the head lights will go on when you switch the lights on. We want to change that. We want the relay to only have power when the vehicle is switched on.

Once you removed the battery and loosened the fuse box, turn the fuse box around and remove the cover on the back

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Now look at the wires at the back. At the top right you will note one thin wire (white/red) and just above it a thick Red/Blue wire. You have to cut the white/red wire (which goes to the head light relay). We will only skin the Red/Blue wire to tap into it. The Red/Blue wire only has power when the vehicle is switched on and the white/red wire powers the headlight relay.

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I added an addition relay to do the switching on and off work.

The thick blue/red power wire only switches my extra relay on and off. The relay connects and disconnects the white/red wire. Thus the white/red wire will be "cut" when the ignition is off and connected when the ignition is on.

If your vehicle's wiring has different colours, just look for any wire which will only have power when switched on and use that where I used the blue/red wire.

Hope it makes sense.

The diagram below shows a typical relay.

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The thing between points 85 and 86 is the solenoid or electro magnet thingy of the relay. When you apply power to it, it will pull in and close the contact between points 30 and 87. So it works like a switch but it uses the solenoid to do the switching..

To let the relay work you need to add positive to any one of points 85 or 86 and an earth/negative wire to the other.

If you look at the diagram below you will see how I connected it.

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Remember the different wires I explained below pic 2.
The blue/red wire only gets power when the ignition is in the on position. Thus when you turn the vehicle on, blue/red gets power which activates the solenoid of the relay. That closes contacts 30 and 87 which connects the white/red wire which we've cut and the original light relay can now activate. I had to extend the wires to get to the relay. Remember to solder those joints, you do not want to end up without lights.

The earth wire at point 86 I sommer connected to the body just to the right of the fuse box

I also replaced the park lights, number plate lights and interior dome light with LED's.

So now we will not suffer a flat battery anymore. When you switch the ignition off (or on acc) then the head lights switches off and only the park lights remain on.
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Piet hoekom die "moeilike roete" ?

Sit is mos baie makliker om net n buzzer in te sit wat jou waarsku wanneer die drywer se deur oopmaak terwyl die ligte aan is ...
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Baie dankie :thumbup: :thumbup: klink na 'n blinkplan.

En hoe werk die buzzer? Waar koop mens die waarsku lawaaier?
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Jy maak net vir my werk Pieter . . . . . . . :lol: :lol:
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Thanks Pieter...... :thumbup:
Was going to look into how to do this but you have saved me the time......
Now I know where to look and what to look for so it will take less time to do the job..... :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Piet hoekom die "moeilike roete" ?
Sit is mos baie makliker om net n buzzer in te sit wat jou waarsku wanneer die drywer se deur oopmaak terwyl die ligte aan is ...
Hhhmm, ek weet nie eintlik hoekom nie. Moontlike redes:
1. Niemand in Langebaan verkoop buzzers nie
2. Elmi het 'n paar idees vir die tuin, ek moet dus in die garage besig bly anders moet ek in die tuin werk. Die buzzer mod sou te vinnig wees.
3. Dit is wat ek wou doen.
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hehehehe ....

jip die buzzer is VINNIG.

twee diodes, en n 12V buzzer by enige elektroniese winkel.

Kry dan n draad in die steering column wat 12V kry wanneer die ligte aangesit word (skuus - het nie laas die kleur gekry nie). Bring n draad van hier tot by die drywer deur se dak liggie skakelaar.

12V sein - buzzer - diode - lig skakelaar
dan ook nog n diode vanaf die lig skakelaar na die dak liggie (die twee diodes keer net dat die ligte/dak liggie nie krag terug voer in ander circuits nie ...)


die parte het my so R20 gekos.
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pietpetoors wrote:
Piet hoekom die "moeilike roete" ?
Sit is mos baie makliker om net n buzzer in te sit wat jou waarsku wanneer die drywer se deur oopmaak terwyl die ligte aan is ...
Hhhmm, ek weet nie eintlik hoekom nie. Moontlike redes:
1. Niemand in Langebaan verkoop buzzers nie
2. Elmi het 'n paar idees vir die tuin, ek moet dus in die garage besig bly anders moet ek in die tuin werk. Die buzzer mod sou te vinnig wees.
3. Dit is wat ek wou doen.
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Ek kan aan een voordeel dink van Pieter se metode bo-oor die buzzer metode.

Se nou maar jy ry langpad of jy moet iewers een van jou mense gaan oplaai iewers en dit reen. Nou ry jy en daar waar jy moeg raai en dalk so bietjie 'n uiltjie wil knip of daar waar jy jou mense oplaai bly jy vir 'n lang ruk in jou voertuig sonder om die deur byvoorbeeld oop te maak. Nou as dit nie donker genoeg is buite nie, gaan jy nie agterkom jou ligte is aan nie tensy jy jou deur oop maak nie. So as jy Pieter se metode doen en die ignition dan af sit, whala... dan is jou ligte ook af maar as jy die buzzer roete gaan en die ignition af sit en bly sit en wag / slaap... moet jy solank droom / dagdroom oor iemand met jumper leads.

'n Soort gelyke voorval het met my gebeur.... kan nie onthou hoekom nie maar die dag gery en langs 'n dam gaan stop en net gesit en dink.... en toe ek die kar wil start... :slap: :slap:
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Ek het myne se buzzer tussen die parkeerligte en die ACC posissie bedraad a.g.v. die situasie hierbo. Dit beteken dat sodra ek die engine afsit en die sleutel terugdraai (om dit uit te trek) gaan die buzzer skree - dit het egter geen betrekking op watter deur oop of toe is nie. Al wat nodig was, was 1 12 buzzer en bietjie draad, geen diodes nie!
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die diodes is juis sodat dit nie skree wanneer die passasiers hul deure oop maak nie.
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Cassie nou laat jy n mens dink .....


dit is mos juis hoe die Fiat Uno se ligte werk - AF as jy die sleutel uithaal. So nou kan mens maar n Maart die ligte aansit en heel winter aanlos, tog sal jy nie n pap battery kry nie.

EN, as jy inklim en verder ry is die ligte dadelik weer aan !! Nogal handig wanneer mens in die winter maande rondry vir die werk - te lig om agter kom die ligte is af ....


Pieter, Pieter, ..... nou krap jy ..... :)
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Pieter ek hou van jou konsep. :thumbup: bietjie werk maar prakties. :cool: Sal my tazz moet aan die horings gryp en wiel. :twisted: Chris daar is nix verkeerd met die buzzer besigheid nie maar ek ys net dat die buzzer miskien oppak of net klank verloor, wat dan. :eh:
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:thumbup: :thumbup: dankie, baie interesant
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Hallo julle,

Ek het hierdie webwerf ontdek (weet nie of dit al genoem is nie :shifty: ) wat julle kan help, maar nie net met hierdie vraag nie.
Ek dink jy sal net in "reverse" moet werk.
http://www.toyotawiki.org/index.php?tit ... 99_4Runner" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ek het reeds n paar antwoorde gekry.

Geniet hom... :thumbup:
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