Prado 3.4 V6 in 2.7 Hilux

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Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:16 pm

My trokkie is getting a heart transplant.

Nothing wrong with the 3RZ. I just decided it is time to stop being practical and go for a bit more power and some better sound.
At (hopefully) the same fuel consumtion I might as well have a bit more horses.

Bought an imported 5Vz from Engines and more in Harties. We will be fitting a KZ-TE gearbox as I want a bit lower revs than the 2.7 gearbox.

I aksed Hoppy to do the conversion for me as he has lots of experience and know all the pitfalls.

One thing I like so far is that he had a thick adaptor plate and special flywheel made in order to push the engine 40mm forward. That helps to get the engine away from the firewall, get the viscous fan closer to the radiator and helps that one do not have to move your gearbox. Because Gearbox stays where it should be there are no mods to propshafts and gear stick remain where they should be.

The engine was lowered into position last week Friday, so I am eagerly awaiting more updates.
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:23 pm

:thumbup:

Nice one Pieter.
Please don't make too much noise with the new beast to chase away the stumpnose in the lagoon :D:
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:33 pm

Ek dink dit gaan nou 'n uitstekende ombouing/kombinasie wees hierdie. Hou ons asseblief op hoogte.
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:38 pm

Die V6 is 'n goeie ombouing. Ek glo die tipe engin moes in Sa verkoop gewees het op die Ifs. Amerika se ouens ken die V6 goed in die Hiluxes.
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:45 pm

Jip, daai trokkie het in Australia so van fabriek gekom met die 5vz, in 'n tyd toe Toyota die enigste dubbelkajuit trokkie op die RSA mark was sonder 'n V6.
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:02 pm

Lekker Pieter! :thumbup:
What was the cost of the motor and did they supply the original ECU with it? I'm still battling with the Essex V6 in SifuLux (cam and lifters) so the 5VZ option is not too far from my mind.
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:59 pm

I paid R16,000.00 for the engine plus R1250 courier fee.

I could get a engine on Gumtree for as low as R13k, but I went for Engines and More because the owner told me that he goes to Japan himself to select his engines and he always look for engines with less than 100k km.

ECU not included. We will go with a Dictator as it is the simplest option. Because there is no auto box involved it is straight forward to hook up the ECU.

Carlo from Modjects in Brackenfell hooked up the Dictator and started the engine before it went to Hoppy.

These engines were expensive and scares but they are becoming more available and cheaper. I know it is not a modern engine but I believe it is a simple and reliable engine which is what I am looking for.
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:59 pm

Looking forward to following your progress, Pieter! Think you will end up with a near-perfect combo and if anything probably even better fuel consumption - depending on the weight of your right foot, naturally :thumbup:


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Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:11 pm

depending on the weight of your right foo
Ja, it is strange how the weight of your right foot is influenced by the sound which enters your right ear.

The deeper the growl, the less the control is.
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:25 pm

Looking forward to seeing the finished conversion, Pieter. Is the Dictator a Sequential Injection unit that fires the injectors independently?? This will be important as the engine is a Sequential Multiport Fuel Injection design.

I am not thinking you will be gaining fuel consumption as that noise is something to enjoy with the Manual gearbox and even the most modest driver will sometimes just foot it for that sound and pleasure.
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:05 pm

The engine was fitted, engine mountings manufactured, BUT there is not enough space for the sump.

So Allen manufactured a sump. The sump must be able to take at least 5 liters since there is about 3.5 liters in circulation while the engine is running.

They will also change the oil pickup to fit in the bottom of the sump.

The first pics are where they manufacture the sump and the last is the heat treatment phase.

I think with this setup the oil pickup will always get oil, no matter what angle the vehicle is climbing.
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:55 pm

Looks like it should work just fine. Don't see a drain plug?
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:46 am

Don't see a drain plug?
Toyotas don't consume oil, once it is in, it stays there.

The beauty is that the drain plug can now be added to an easy to reach position.
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:23 am

Can you elaborate on the heat treatment Pieter - is it done to relieve stresses in the metal due to welding?
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:11 am

Yes, release stress to prevent cracking of welds and warping. It was welded onto the table when they welded it and when they did the heat treatment.
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:20 am

Ah, I see there. Very impressive!
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:58 pm

Hi Pieter, any feedback with your hilux, have you got it back?
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:16 pm

Everything is in, management system is in and engine started. Only dash have to be put back.

On Tuesday Hoppy said he will himself install the dash on Tuesday because he wants to make sure there are no rattles.
We agreed that I can fetch the vehicle today.

When I got there today the dash was still laying on the ground.
Aircon pipes not connected yet.

I am leaving for the Kalahari next week Friday, I hope the Hilux will be ready by then, it been 3 months and 9 days now.
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:55 pm

Eish, I hope it will be ready by then, I would prefer to have it for a few days before a long trip, just to put some Kilos on to see if there are any little snags.
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:48 pm

Me too, that is why I wanted it today.
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Jip, daai trokkie het in Australia so van fabriek gekom met die 5vz, in 'n tyd toe Toyota die enigste dubbelkajuit trokkie op die RSA mark was sonder 'n V6.
Ja, daai tyd het Toysa te vertelle dat die V6 en die steering rack in mekaar se pad sal wees...
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Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:42 pm

Die steering rack is geen Issue nie.

Ai Pieter. Daai Hilux dink ek sal lekker loop.

Hoppy sal sy gat moet roer. :surrender: :subscribed:
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Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:53 pm

Hi

Pieter hoe ry daai V6.? :think:
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Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:51 pm

Nog nie vandag iets gehoor nie. GIster was die dash amper heel in en aircon pype was gebou en in. Wag nog om vandag se terugvoer te kry.
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