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Dadz Toy BFI

Tue May 05, 2009 12:09 pm

Mud Dog wrote:
Not true!.... They do on fact turn on their own individual radii, otherwise there would be some serious scrubbing and tyre wear when turning. The inner wheel, on a turn will have a tighter (smaller) radius than the outer one. It's refferred to as tow in / tow out on turns when this angle is out. It is usually not adjustable and is set in the design of the steering arms. It is achieved by the angle (off from 90º) that is formed between the line of the axle and the line between the stub axle pivot and end of the steering arm. This angle is calculated as a co-efficient between the wheel base length (distance between front and back axles) and the width of the front axle (distance between the pivot points). If the steering arm or axle are bent, this setting goes for a Burton.
U is reicht Chappie :shifty:

So........

If you fit wheel spacers......... what effect on the co-efficient.......:think:
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Mon May 25, 2009 8:45 pm

Steering all sorted , No probs :D

Removed the 50mm bodylift

Got the Propshafts , Both front and rear Double Cardan (Used) but all in good nick
(Blikkies duur). Length to be sorted

Gearbox ready to be fitted , will start on 26/05/2009

Just need the knob for 4x4 . :think:

Currently the complete conversion with 4x4 gearbox cost

R 15850.25 :thumbup:

And Very happy so far . :mrgreen:
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Mon May 25, 2009 8:50 pm

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Mon May 25, 2009 9:09 pm

If you fit wheel spacers......... what effect on the co-efficient.......
Rich, sorry, I just saw this post now. In reply, yes it would have to have an effect (because the radii are altered) but it's usually not or hardly noticeable.
Currently the complete conversion with 4x4 gearbox cost R 15850.25
David, I think that's more than reasonable (actually it's a steal if it's including the box and shafts :wink: ) :thumbup:
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Mon May 25, 2009 9:31 pm

Dadz Toy BFI wrote:
Mud Dog wrote:
Not true!.... They do on fact turn on their own individual radii, otherwise there would be some serious scrubbing and tyre wear when turning. The inner wheel, on a turn will have a tighter (smaller) radius than the outer one. It's refferred to as tow in / tow out on turns when this angle is out. It is usually not adjustable and is set in the design of the steering arms. It is achieved by the angle (off from 90º) that is formed between the line of the axle and the line between the stub axle pivot and end of the steering arm. This angle is calculated as a co-efficient between the wheel base length (distance between front and back axles) and the width of the front axle (distance between the pivot points). If the steering arm or axle are bent, this setting goes for a Burton.
U is reicht Chappie :shifty:

So........

If you fit wheel spacers......... what effect on the co-efficient.......:think:
Apparently Rudolph Ackerman patented this in 1818, it is called geometrically correct steering. As MD said, calculated according to the wheel-base and width. Wheel spacers will not really make a difference you can see or feel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_ ... g_geometry
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Mon May 25, 2009 10:25 pm

Apparently Rudolph Ackerman patented this in 1818, it is called geometrically correct steering.
:D: I did'nt know that. As early as 1818 .... amazing! :P
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Tue May 26, 2009 4:37 am

BlumTRD wrote:R 15850.25
Dis nie te dronk nie :thumbup:
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Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:23 pm

David,

Hoekom so stil? :?:

Is die 4x4 box en propshaft al in :?:

Indien wel, was jy al van die pavement af :?: :clap:

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Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:29 pm

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Watse box is daai , lyk amper soos die R150F of R151F :?:
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Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:21 am

Hi David

I am also contemplating the SAS! Have you fully completed the swap by now with the 4x4 box?
How does she handle on-road & off-road? Also, the wheel hop scenario, any feedback on that?

Lastly, how much did the complete SAS cost you, exluding 4x4 box??

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Tue May 18, 2010 10:49 pm

Some Wheeling Pics And New Mods :thumbup:

En die rot wat saam terug gekom het (maar nie lank gehou het nie) :lol:


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Wed May 19, 2010 4:02 am

Feedback on the 2x4 -> 4x4 conversion please??

On the 4th to last pic, it looks as if the front driver side tyre got seperated from the rim, is this true?!

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Wed May 19, 2010 6:50 am

Numbnut wrote:Feedback on the 2x4 -> 4x4 conversion please??

On the 4th to last pic, it looks as if the front driver side tyre got seperated from the rim, is this true?!

Thx
Huh? .... I don't see a de-beaded tyre .... are you looking at the pic of the climate control drum fan! :shock:
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Wed May 19, 2010 4:08 pm

:shock: Nope . No de-beading :think:

Never had a prop with beads , even in mosam on .6 :thumbup:

Feeback on sas conversion :

Ifs = :crazy: :lol: :crazy:

SAS = :D: :twisted: :D:

Nico P - Are also busy with a SAS conversion

Numbnut - Some feedback : Its really worth it to do the swap .
Very Easy to do cheap and really reliable , Didn't have any breakdowns or
failures so far .
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Small Update
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Ja nee die mannietjie is taamlik beisg. Ek het dit gesien en die dinge lyk baie netjies. Kan nie wag vir myne nie,
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Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:23 pm

Hi

This site have some examples of how not to do the steering on a SAS
http://128.83.80.200/taco/scarysteering.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:49 am

ON 18/11/2011

50mm Body Lift
Twin Lockers ( E lockers )
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Haha!! En daar gaan die 50mm lift weer in!!

Lyk my die afdak gaan so 100mm lift nodig he?

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Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:44 pm

Lekker bakkie die! :thumbup:
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What calipers did you use? Are they handbrake compatible?
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Daai is jou std Hilux voor Caliper.
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Tig welded stainless steel tank 140 liters with baffels inside . Used all original flages from std tank . Relocating tank to make space for 4 link

Triangulated 4 link setup .

Will be using coils from jeep with 16" air shocks

Front will be radius arms extended 200mm and running a panhard rod .
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Fri May 17, 2013 6:58 pm

Nice!

Waar gaan die tank nou staan?
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Mon May 20, 2013 8:59 pm

Hi Thabo .
Die tank gaan agter op die bak . Net onder die rollbar .

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Baie netjies David!
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Still very very tempting......................looks like a lot of work but I think it is a good upgrade :thumbup: :thumbup:
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I know there is a guy in Vryheid who did this, anyone know who it is or where the thread is??
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