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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:09 pm
by Dadz Toy BFI
Mud Dog wrote:
Not true!.... They do on fact turn on their own individual radii, otherwise there would be some serious scrubbing and tyre wear when turning. The inner wheel, on a turn will have a tighter (smaller) radius than the outer one. It's refferred to as tow in / tow out on turns when this angle is out. It is usually not adjustable and is set in the design of the steering arms. It is achieved by the angle (off from 90º) that is formed between the line of the axle and the line between the stub axle pivot and end of the steering arm. This angle is calculated as a co-efficient between the wheel base length (distance between front and back axles) and the width of the front axle (distance between the pivot points). If the steering arm or axle are bent, this setting goes for a Burton.
U is reicht Chappie :shifty:

So........

If you fit wheel spacers......... what effect on the co-efficient.......:think:

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:45 pm
by BlumTRD
Steering all sorted , No probs :D

Removed the 50mm bodylift

Got the Propshafts , Both front and rear Double Cardan (Used) but all in good nick
(Blikkies duur). Length to be sorted

Gearbox ready to be fitted , will start on 26/05/2009

Just need the knob for 4x4 . :think:

Currently the complete conversion with 4x4 gearbox cost

R 15850.25 :thumbup:

And Very happy so far . :mrgreen:

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:48 pm
by BlumTRD
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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:50 pm
by BlumTRD
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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:09 pm
by Mud Dog
If you fit wheel spacers......... what effect on the co-efficient.......
Rich, sorry, I just saw this post now. In reply, yes it would have to have an effect (because the radii are altered) but it's usually not or hardly noticeable.
Currently the complete conversion with 4x4 gearbox cost R 15850.25
David, I think that's more than reasonable (actually it's a steal if it's including the box and shafts :wink: ) :thumbup:

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:31 pm
by cprinsloo
Dadz Toy BFI wrote:
Mud Dog wrote:
Not true!.... They do on fact turn on their own individual radii, otherwise there would be some serious scrubbing and tyre wear when turning. The inner wheel, on a turn will have a tighter (smaller) radius than the outer one. It's refferred to as tow in / tow out on turns when this angle is out. It is usually not adjustable and is set in the design of the steering arms. It is achieved by the angle (off from 90º) that is formed between the line of the axle and the line between the stub axle pivot and end of the steering arm. This angle is calculated as a co-efficient between the wheel base length (distance between front and back axles) and the width of the front axle (distance between the pivot points). If the steering arm or axle are bent, this setting goes for a Burton.
U is reicht Chappie :shifty:

So........

If you fit wheel spacers......... what effect on the co-efficient.......:think:
Apparently Rudolph Ackerman patented this in 1818, it is called geometrically correct steering. As MD said, calculated according to the wheel-base and width. Wheel spacers will not really make a difference you can see or feel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_ ... g_geometry

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:25 pm
by Mud Dog
Apparently Rudolph Ackerman patented this in 1818, it is called geometrically correct steering.
:D: I did'nt know that. As early as 1818 .... amazing! :P

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:37 am
by Spartan
BlumTRD wrote:R 15850.25
Dis nie te dronk nie :thumbup:

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:23 pm
by swifty
David,

Hoekom so stil? :?:

Is die 4x4 box en propshaft al in :?:

Indien wel, was jy al van die pavement af :?: :clap:

Martin

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:29 pm
by Spartan
Blom
Watse box is daai , lyk amper soos die R150F of R151F :?:

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:21 am
by Numbnut
Hi David

I am also contemplating the SAS! Have you fully completed the swap by now with the 4x4 box?
How does she handle on-road & off-road? Also, the wheel hop scenario, any feedback on that?

Lastly, how much did the complete SAS cost you, exluding 4x4 box??

Thx
Daniel

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:49 pm
by BlumTRD
Some Wheeling Pics And New Mods :thumbup:

En die rot wat saam terug gekom het (maar nie lank gehou het nie) :lol:


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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:02 am
by Numbnut
Feedback on the 2x4 -> 4x4 conversion please??

On the 4th to last pic, it looks as if the front driver side tyre got seperated from the rim, is this true?!

Thx

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:50 am
by Mud Dog
Numbnut wrote:Feedback on the 2x4 -> 4x4 conversion please??

On the 4th to last pic, it looks as if the front driver side tyre got seperated from the rim, is this true?!

Thx
Huh? .... I don't see a de-beaded tyre .... are you looking at the pic of the climate control drum fan! :shock:

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:08 pm
by BlumTRD
:shock: Nope . No de-beading :think:

Never had a prop with beads , even in mosam on .6 :thumbup:

Feeback on sas conversion :

Ifs = :crazy: :lol: :crazy:

SAS = :D: :twisted: :D:

Nico P - Are also busy with a SAS conversion

Numbnut - Some feedback : Its really worth it to do the swap .
Very Easy to do cheap and really reliable , Didn't have any breakdowns or
failures so far .

Re: BlumTRD ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , Dual Case )

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:36 pm
by BlumTRD
Small Update
Will Post pics as things happen

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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Solid Axle Swop )

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:37 pm
by BlumTRD
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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:55 pm
by JJBotes
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. . . .mamma dit lyk NICE !!!!

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:31 am
by NicoP
Ja nee die mannietjie is taamlik beisg. Ek het dit gesien en die dinge lyk baie netjies. Kan nie wag vir myne nie,

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:23 pm
by henribrits
Hi

This site have some examples of how not to do the steering on a SAS
http://128.83.80.200/taco/scarysteering.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:44 am
by BlumTRD

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:49 am
by BlumTRD
ON 18/11/2011

50mm Body Lift
Twin Lockers ( E lockers )
Crawl Box 2.28 and 4.70 ( Twin Stick )
1uz 4.0
D4D rear diff (60mm wider than STD ifs Diff)
3.58 Ratio all round

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:04 pm
by BlumTRD
:excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:

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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:47 pm
by Thabogrobler
Haha!! En daar gaan die 50mm lift weer in!!

Lyk my die afdak gaan so 100mm lift nodig he?

Very Nice!

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:44 pm
by RooiLux
Lekker bakkie die! :thumbup:

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:33 pm
by Pora
yis dude disi fer ni

ek will ok sikke leke speelgoed maak

gr8 bakkie like dit moer baie

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:49 pm
by BlumTRD
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Re: BlumTRD ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , Dual Case )

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:18 pm
by Jaco Versfeld
What calipers did you use? Are they handbrake compatible?
BlumTRD wrote:Small Update
Will Post pics as things happen

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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:38 pm
by LouisZ
Daai is jou std Hilux voor Caliper.

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:59 pm
by BlumTRD
Tig welded stainless steel tank 140 liters with baffels inside . Used all original flages from std tank . Relocating tank to make space for 4 link

Triangulated 4 link setup .

Will be using coils from jeep with 16" air shocks

Front will be radius arms extended 200mm and running a panhard rod .
Coils with 16" air shocks .

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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:58 pm
by Thabogrobler
Nice!

Waar gaan die tank nou staan?

Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:59 pm
by BlumTRD
Hi Thabo .
Die tank gaan agter op die bak . Net onder die rollbar .

:grin:

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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:02 pm
by BlumTRD
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Re: BlumTRD SAS ( Rear Disks , 4 Link , etc)

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:01 am
by Big D
Baie netjies David!

Re: BlumTRD

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:46 pm
by Toppie4x4
Still very very tempting......................looks like a lot of work but I think it is a good upgrade :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: BlumTRD

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:48 pm
by Toppie4x4
I know there is a guy in Vryheid who did this, anyone know who it is or where the thread is??
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