Vigo - Tyre advice for dirt roads

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sat May 03, 2014 11:50 am

By now you all know that my Hilux Vigo is not too keen on being on 4 wheels. He would much rather be parked by the side of the road resting his left rear butt cheek on a jack.

Hence the new name "Tripod - Hot Agter"...

The history behind this.
In 2012 I fitted 4 brand new Goodyear Wrangler AT/SA (265/70x16) on the Hilux just before our trip to Epupa Falls.

On this trip we encountered 2 flat tyres.
1) Rocky road between Puros and Orupembe claimed a sidewall - tyre destroyed
2) Glass shard in Opuwo in the tread - tyre plugged and still in use as a spare.

Next trip to Mabuasehube in 2013. Here we encountered
1) Dirt road between Griekwastad and Postmasburg puncture on the edge of the sidewall - Plugged with 2 snotplugs and made it to Postmasburg. Here it was plugged with a mushroom plug.
2) Had to replace this same tyre at Kang after it got punctured again. Didnt even bother to look for the hole, just replaced it with the spare. - Tyre written off by X-Sure as the original puncture was too close to the edge of the tyre.

Trip to Richtersveld/Fish River Canyon 2014
1) Dirt road between Eksteenfontein and Khubus. Tyre punctured and destroyed because I didnt realise I had a flat and there was no safe place to change tyres. I had to drive the vehicle to a safe spot on the flat tyre (about 300m).
2) Dirt road, very smooth and drivable, between Hobas and Ai-Ais... Got a puncture left rear. A brand new Hankook Dynapro AT/M was fitted. This must have been a fluke shot as there was a hole right in the middle of the tread which I managed to plug with 2 snot plugs. - Puncture fixed by Carleys Motors in Karasburg with a mushroom plug. This tyre will become my 2nd spare.

So in 3 trips we had 6 punctures. This seems a bit excessive.

The Hilux and the road/driving conditions.
1) It is never "overloaded". We are only 2 people, and according to my calculations we dont have more that about 450 kg of kit loaded when we go on a trip.
2) I have not adjusted my driving style since I got the Vigo, and I stick to the tracks as far as possible.
3) We always drive with 4x4 engaged on dirt roads.
4) I do not deflate my rear tyres on dirt roads, specifically because it would expose the sidewalls to stones and rocks.

As you can imagine I am a little bit gatvol of replacing tyres after every trip, and also of getting changed into my cleanest dirty clothes to crawl in underneath the Hilux to jack it up. The first couple of times was an adventure but it is becoming a bit much now.

Now I would like to know from the guys who drive their Vigo's on dirt roads, with more or less the same type of load and in more or less the same conditions, what tyres are you using, what are your experiences. I dont have the time or money to experiment with different makes to find the one that works. I also have to bear in mind that I use the Vigo 70% on tar roads, so going hard-core muddies is not really an option, although I am at a stage where I am prepared to do that.

I need tyres that can take us on a trip over some bad dirt roads and bring us back. It doesnt have to be quiet on tar, it doesnt have to have exceptional road holding in the wet, it does not have to give me 100 000 km's, hell I am used to 3000km's.. I think you know what I am looking for..

Also, please give advice on what I might be doing wrong based on the history above. I might also be at fault here.

4x4BEES · Post by **4x4BEES** » Sat May 03, 2014 11:59 am

Is it mostly on the left rear that you get punchers?
Maybe there is more weight on that side that might cause it

As you know, I have very limited off-road experience, just asking.

Vlak vark · Post by **Vlak vark** » Sat May 03, 2014 12:18 pm

hi Thys. .just some advice on dirt road traveling. always travel as close to rhe middle of the road as possible. as they scrape the road all the nails and unwanted pieces of iron land up on the edge of the road. I feel your frustration.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sat May 03, 2014 12:21 pm

You are right Kevin. The left rear tyre is always the tyre that works the hardest on a right hand drive vehicle. This is because of the load and the camber of the road... It is also the tyre that is furthest away from the driver. Our load is always more or less evenly balanced, and the vehicle does not lean to any side.

I heard the story somewhere, but cant remember all of it, that at a certain speed a stone that is kicked up by the front wheel turns upright just as the rear wheel goes over it, and that causes a puncture. Is there a "golden" speed one should not be travelling at?

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Sat May 03, 2014 4:06 pm

Thys

Jy meld nie wat jou band druk is wanneer jy grond paaie ry nie.Ek wil net iets noem wat ek by die mense van Namibie gehoor/geleer het.Ek het gereeld Torrabaai toe gegaan om te hengel.Torrabaai is slegs oop in Desember in Januarie.Daardie stukkie grondpad van die skedel kus het klippe wat skrik vir niks.

Net voor die vakansie seisoen word daardie pad geskraap om dit weer rybaar te maak, in die skraap proses is daar so baie skerp los klippe wat rondle op die pad en wag vir n tyre om stukkend te steek.

Afhangende van die vrag blaas die ouens hulle bande af so laag as moontlik om te verhoed dat die klippe hulle bande so maklik stukkend sny.Die spoed word ook natuurlik aangepas by die banddruk.Daar het ek gesien dat dit niks snaaks is om n boer te sien met 3 spaarwiele op sy bakkie gelaai nie.

Ek was nog elke keer gelukkig en het nie pap wiele gekry nie.Het destyds met Firestone ATX gery

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sat May 03, 2014 10:58 pm

Dawie, die banddruk was byna in alle gevalle 2.3 bar. Die rede hoekom ek nie die bande afblaas nie is omdat teen daardie druk met die hoeveelheid vrag maak die band klaar 'n "boeppens" en wil ek nie die sywalle onnodig blootstel nie. Die meeste van die snye was in elke geval sywand snye. Ek glo as ek dit druk verder sou verlaag ek 'n groter risiko sou loop om skade aan die sywande aan te rig...

Vlak vark · Post by **Vlak vark** » Sun May 04, 2014 6:07 am

Thys. My bakkie ry elke dag omtrent 6km dorp toe en 6 terug. ek het my hankooks in desember 2012 opgesit. in die dyd wat my bande op is het hulle al in die omgewing van 5800Km grondpad gedoen. Ek het nog geen papwiele op die grondpad gekry nie. het al baie draad uit die loopvlak uit getrek. die oilfante trap die draad langs die pad plat en dan moet die myn dit weer reg maak. met die kom daar baie stukkies draad in die pad. die enigste papwiel ook links agter, was die voorste stuk van n styk mes, wat ek met 2 snotplugs gestop het, ek het hom op die teerpad gekry. Ek ry my bande met gemiddelde druk van tussen 2,2 tot 2.5 bar. het al by die garage gestop en wiele gepomp dan was hulle al 1.8 bar. sterkte met jou besluit.

Post by **george** » Sun May 04, 2014 9:14 am

Ek is seker van die min mense wat tevrede is met BF's.Is op my derde stel en kan net goie goed se.Ek weet daar is baie mense wat nie goeie diens uit hulle kry nie.
Hulle prys is nou te duur so sal nie weer 'n stel koop nie.Sal maar kyk hier wat die manne aanbeveel.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sun May 04, 2014 9:37 am

Ek leun sterk oor na BFG A/T's. Het ook in die verlede baie goeie diens uit hulle gekry. Ek sal mooi shop, maar is bereid om 'n paar rand ekstra te betaal. Onthou, die bande wat ek nou op het kan nie meer teen die rakprys verreken word nie. Vir elke trip moet ek ten minste 1 nuwe band se prys ook inwerk.. Al laat ek hulle met X-Sure verseker, beteken dit maar so ongeveer 40% afslag per vervangingsband. Die ander rede hoekom ek goeie geld sal betaal is om nie meer in die stof rond te kruip nie....

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun May 04, 2014 11:58 am

The ATX's were exceptionally good for gravel roads - very seldom would you ever have an ATX with sidewall damage because of the very square shoulder of the tread. My experience with ATX's was that the tread pattern loved to pick up nails / screws / wire / whatever in the road ... had to regularly put plugs in. Otherwise a good allrounder that gave very good mileage.

Post by **george** » Sun May 04, 2014 12:05 pm

Have a look at this site
Most off the brands with prices
http://www.errolstyres.co.za/tyres/clas ... uck,%20SUV

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun May 04, 2014 4:05 pm

Very useful site, George!

Tenk · Post by **Tenk** » Sun May 04, 2014 7:27 pm

Thys ek het al so 20 000 km met bfg all gedoen en nog nooit enige probleme ondervind nie. Baie rotsagtige bergroetes en .8 tot .6 in sand geen probleem nie. As ek so na van die sny merke op my sywande kyk is ek verbaas oor hulle vermoe. Ek was verlede naweek weer Stilbaai toe en ook slegte grondpad na Vleesbaai met baie slaggate op grondpad, daarna Vleesbaai duine roete gedoen op .8 lekker hard gespeel geen probleem nie. Drie ander voertuie daar het ook bfg all op en ons het toevallig ook gepraat van hoe goeie band en diens almal kry. Ek oorweeg n stel muds vir offroad en dan die allterains, vir wanneer ek verder as bv 500km gaan. Sowaar n goeie band in my boeke.

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Sun May 04, 2014 9:04 pm

ThysdJ wrote:I might also be at fault here.

Thys, I learned at a 4x4 school in Stellenbosch once that it's very important to walk any obstacle first. Then choose your line carefully and follow it precisely.

I can give you the instructor's number if you wish.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sun May 04, 2014 10:40 pm

zepplin wrote:
ThysdJ wrote:I might also be at fault here.
Thys, I learned at a 4x4 school in Stellenbosch once that it's very important to walk any obstacle first. Then choose your line carefully and follow it precisely.

I can give you the instructor's number if you wish.

Steve thanks for that. I'll invite you along on our next trip and you can walk the 2000km with me...

Dewald Posthumus · Post by **Dewald Posthumus** » Mon May 05, 2014 7:57 am

Thys, ek moet ook se, my BF's is great op grondpaaie, nog geen skade op hulle nie na baie km's in die Drakensberge se grondpaaie sowel as hierdie afgelope week in noordelike KZN se grond/ sand paaie - op teerpad is hulle ook nie sleg nie, maar as dit reen ry ek liewer met my vrou se kar as om dit te waag met die BF's op 'n nat pad.

My volgende keuse vir bande le tussen Hankook Dynapro MT en Cooper ST Maxx.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Mon May 05, 2014 8:20 am

Thanks for the input guys.. I am sort of getting the info I need...

Anybody else who had the same bad experiences as I had?

Racing snake · Post by **Racing snake** » Mon May 05, 2014 3:28 pm

I've had BFG A/T on our Fortuner for a few years now.Been to Zim, Chobe, Moremi, Damaraland, Caprivi, Etosha and even Khaudum. Always heavily overloaded and never a puncture. Fantastic tyre at a really stupid price.

Mars · Post by **Mars** » Mon May 05, 2014 8:14 pm

Sal NOOIT weer enige Goodyear naby enige van my voertuie bring nie. Paar pap wiele en patetiese kilos. Ek het BFs op my bakkie gehad wat basies 100 000 kilos gehou het. Kombinasie van alle paaie sonder 'n pap wiel ooit. Vir my is hulle nou te duur en was nie goed op 'n nat pad nie. Daar het ook stukkies van die loopvlak afgebreek op klipperige 4x4 roetes. (Baie versigtig gery).

Het nou Bridgestone A/Ts op en na 45 000 kilos net een pap wiel - stadige lek agv spyker in loopvlak. Ek sal hulle weer opsit.

Op my werkbakkie het ek Hankook Dynapro A/Ts op wat goed hou. Sal hulle sterk oorweeg volgende.

jacovisagie · Post by **jacovisagie** » Tue May 06, 2014 10:50 am

Ek persoonlik dink BFG ATT is die beste band wat daar is vir teerpad , sand en dan natuurlik hierdie grondpaaie wat ons hier moet ry in die karoo. Ek het nou nie soveel km's gekry soos party ander manne nie maar ek was baie tevrede. Die bande het 'n goeie 68000km gedoen met een slow puncture wat so 3 dae neem voordat hy pap is. En dit was my eie skuld. Agter 'n jakkals aan gejaag deur die veld. Die bande het 95% van die tyd grondpad gedoen en vir die wat die Ceres karoo pad ( grondpad tussen Calvinia & Ceres) ken sal weet hoe skurf is die pad. Leiklip. Ek het net nie nou die geld gehad vir BFG nie en het toe maar Maxxis Bighorns opgetrek. Nie slegte band nie ,maar mis maar die BFG. O en terloops. Wat lekker is van die BFG's is dat jy banddruk maar lag kan hou. Het die band so teen 1.8bar gery. Soms laer gemaak as die bakkie leeg loop. Die Maxxis ry ek ook teen 1.8bar. Maak nie kwaai pens. Gooi maar net kwaai klippe as mens bietjie aanstoot.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue May 06, 2014 11:56 am

Where are the guys who are driving on Firestone Destination MT's? I started phoning around for prices yesterday and my credit card is all wrinkled from shock and wont fit into the machine...

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue May 06, 2014 7:52 pm

ThysdJ wrote:Where are the guys who are driving on Firestone Destination MT's? I started phoning around for prices yesterday and my credit card is all wrinkled from shock and wont fit into the machine...

According to the site that George posted, they're very reasonably priced at R1676 ea ..... nice looking with an aggresive tread pattern and deep shoulder / sidewall tread wrap-around. I also like that the tread pattern is not directional like so many of the others. What I didn't see is how many ply the sidewall is.

Could possibly be my next tyre choice

Also like the Hankook Dynapro M/T, the Kumho KL71 (although it's directional) and Maxxis New Bighorn.

Would really like the Maxxis Creepy, but that's for 100% extreme off-road and at R3819 a pop, I reckon it's not for me, but only from a practical point of view.

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Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Tue May 06, 2014 8:51 pm

I think i'll go for a good Mud terrain or almost any all terrain, i found that the cheaper all terrains are better value for money, as the more expensive ones isn't stronger, just more expensive.
I recently changed my worn Bridgestone 694's for a set of equally worn (20%) BFG AT's, technology has improved a lot in 25 years, the BF's has less than half the grip and i destroyed one on my first trip.
BFG At's definitely changed the rubber compound over the years, it doesn't give the same mileage as it used to.
As much as i am disappointed in the BF At's, i am impressed with the BF KM2 muds, excellent tyre, i can't fault it.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue May 06, 2014 11:24 pm

Hoppy wrote:I think i'll go for a good Mud terrain or almost any all terrain, i found that the cheaper all terrains are better value for money, as the more expensive ones isn't stronger, just more expensive.
I recently changed my worn Bridgestone 694's for a set of equally worn (20%) BFG AT's, technology has improved a lot in 25 years, the BF's has less than half the grip and i destroyed one on my first trip.
BFG At's definitely changed the rubber compound over the years, it doesn't give the same mileage as it used to.
As much as i am disappointed in the BF At's, i am impressed with theBF KM2 muds, excellent tyre, i can't fault it.

Agreed. I had them on the Ford and I have them on the Jeep.. they are excellent tyres...

Maybe if all works out I'll put them on the Hilux as well..

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed May 07, 2014 12:48 am

I have BF KM2 on at the moment .... so far so good, but only about 20 clicks on them .... looks like I might get 80 / 90

Whiteley · Post by **Whiteley** » Tue May 13, 2014 11:24 am

Are you specificly looking at All terrain? If you go the mud terrain route I would get nothing else than Firestone Destination muds,I have 20k on mine, gravel and tar and cannot clearly see any thread has gone. Great price and great handling in the wet.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue May 13, 2014 11:52 am

Rudolph anything at the moment. I am not against muds at all. The Firestones do tickle my fancy somewhat...

Hilux 1 · Post by **Hilux 1** » Tue May 13, 2014 12:44 pm

Jis Thys,

as jy kan wag tot na Julie skool vaknsie kan ek jou laat weet hoe die Pirelli Scopion Mudds doen. Sover is ek happy en nog nie n problem gehad nie. ni eers op die Cederberge trip nie. ek ry so 1.6 tot 1.8 bar. en as ek klaar gery is, is die druk so 2bar. Nog geen skade aan sywalle van grondpad nie.

Hulle is ook nie te sleg geprys nie, maar wel mos maar meer raas op die pad.

Legolas · Post by **Legolas** » Wed May 14, 2014 8:47 am

More manne. Ek was baie bevoorreg om my pa van die 26ste April tot 8ste Mei Namibia toe kon neem om die suide deur te toer. Ons het in hierdie trip so 5 000km gedoen waarvan 80% op grondpaaie was en Spoor het die Hankook DynaPro A/T op. Ek moet se ons het die hele trip deur gegaan en nie een papwiel gehad nie.

Ek ry ook 4wd sodra ek op n grondpad kom vir een meer beheer en twee die bewaring van die grondpad vir ander gebruikers maar ek blaas wel my bande af na 1.8 agter en 1.6 voor. Die rede hiervoor is, Kaspaas is van dieselfde opinie, dat as mens byvoorbeeld n breinaald op n harde ballon druk gaan jy nie baie hard moet druk voor hy bars, teenoor n sagter ballon waar jy amper die breinaald kan druk tot die ander kant voor daar iets gebeur.

So ja ek verstaan jou sywand steek uit agv die "boeppens" maar in my opinie is die band so sag dat die klip druk en verby gaan en band gee mee en word nie gesny nie.

Ek moet ook se dat my Hankooks nou al 40 000km op het, maar op elke 10 000km word die bande geroteer, gebalanseer en "gealign".

Ek hoop hierdie help vir jou Thys.

Hilux 1 · Post by **Hilux 1** » Wed May 14, 2014 9:04 am

my denke ook I v m die ballon storie.
Plus ek het al 36000km gery op sleg 3mm van die 13mm tread. so ek reken beide ways lyk dit vir my goed

negatiewe kant, ek het gister met n tyre plek gepraat en was vertel die Scorpion muds is discontinued

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed May 14, 2014 9:56 am

Ja die ballon storie ken ek goed. Die rede hoekom ek nie die ballon teorie gevolg het nie is omdat die klomp papwiele wat ek gehad het almal sidewall punctures was, en die bande afgeblaas was toe dit begin het. Toe oor kompenseer ek dalk na die verkeerde kant toe?

Die papwiel met die Hankook Dynapro was 'n fluke-shot, die spoed, 'n klip en die banddruk het alles saamgewerk om daardie klip deur die loop te druk...

JacoBredenkamp · Post by **JacoBredenkamp** » Wed May 14, 2014 10:29 am

Hi Thys - Ek het so 18 jaar ondervinding in die bande industrie, as jy Muds oorweeg kyk gerus na die Maxxis Bighorn MT764 !!!

Ek het al omtrent alle AT`s en MT`s gery op die mark, waarde vir geld en fantasiese band in my opinnie !!!

As jy AT verkies, BF is regtig nie n slegte opsie nie maar prys en die loop vlak wat uit skeur op slegte klip terrein is al wat my weg hou van hom af, steeds n goeie band veral vir grond paaie !!

Firestone Destination MT - baie goeie band, enigeste probleem is nie almal hou hom in voorraad nie so jy mag dalk sukkel of moet wag om n band te vervang sou jy een verloor !!

Tenk · Post by **Tenk** » Fri May 16, 2014 3:22 pm

Het iemand dalk al bridgestone mud d674 probeer en wat is die resultate? Teen R2000 n band nie sleg nie. Bfg km2 is duur, maar is dit goed afgeblaas in sand en as jy lank ente op teer moet afle. Ek het bfg all op, maar soek iets meer agressief as ek 4x4. Goed in sand teen .8 afgeblaas nie te veel geraas op teer en verder ook goed wees in ander terreine. Km2 lyk ook meer pucture proof te wees, nes my allterrains. Ek sou se my keuses sal le tussen km2(afgeblaas), cooper stt(meer geraas), bighorns(geraas/nat?), bridgestone mud d674(?). Wat kyk ek mis? Ek gebruik my vigo meeste naweke, of weg op vakansies. Soos ek se doen die bfg all huidiglik goed, maar n goeie mud sal nog beter doen daar wat dit tel, maar om daar te kom, moet ek ook n redelike paar teerpad kilos afle, so watter een is die vraag? Is pirreli scorpion ook n mud wat baie onderskat word? Besluite, besluite...

Post by **Haboob** » Sat May 17, 2014 7:15 pm

Coopers A/T. 27 00 kms on some very bad rocky, slow, corrugated and sandy roads in Zim, Damaraland. Koakaland, valley of Desolation and everything inbetween. Also along Kunene River and khwoharib Schlutte. One slow puncture in that time, which was only fixed on return. Tyre pressure about 2.4 at back and 2.2 in front. Vehicle heavily loaded, which gets lighter as we go along, but then we get heavier...

Post by **george** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:43 pm

Thys het jy al tyres opgesit.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:05 pm

Nog nie George. Ek ry nog met die Liquorice All Sorts op die Hilux...

Sal voor Sept opsit as ons weer op 'n trippie gaan.. Intussen ry ek maar teerpaaie..

Post by **LouisZ** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:22 pm

My Maxxis(Trepador) het nogals goed gedoen tot nou. Dit is nou op vir 75000km. Dis nou tyd.

Een ding om te onthou met bande, daar is 'n spoed factor en 'n sekere dra vermoe om die bande. As jy kies sorg dat die ook reg is.

Bv. dit help nie om 'n band te koop waar die dra vermoe net 800kg is en jy laai swaar nie. Daar moet jy 'n band he wat ten minste 1300 plus minus op gespec is.

Spoed. As jy 'n rating kry wat net 140 km/h is moenie 160km/h ry nie.

BF AT het my 3 keer in die steek gelaat, elke keer 'n Sidewall puncture(2 keer snye) en op nat pad kan jy net sowel gaan ys skaats.

Die Coopers deesdae is nogals goed.

Post by **george** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:23 pm

ThysdJ wrote:Nog nie George. Ek ry nog met die Liquorice All Sorts op die Hilux... Sal voor Sept opsit as ons weer op 'n trippie gaan.. Intussen ry ek maar teerpaaie..

Hou ons op hoogte.
Ek sit nou 'n stel Bridgestone`s Dueler 697 op vir 'n pel se Prado. R1400 per band vir die 245/70R16

Post by **LouisZ** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:37 pm

george wrote:
ThysdJ wrote:Nog nie George. Ek ry nog met die Liquorice All Sorts op die Hilux... Sal voor Sept opsit as ons weer op 'n trippie gaan.. Intussen ry ek maar teerpaaie..
Hou ons op hoogte.
Ek sit nou 'n stel Bridgestone`s Dueler 697 op vir 'n pel se Prado. R1400 per band vir die 245/70R16

Die band se ratings vir spoed en vrag is:

1. Spoed = 180km/h
2. Vrag = 1150kg

Kyk net wat hy ekstra op het bv voor bumpers, roofracks, drawers ens. oorweeg dan 'n hoer vrag band.

Post by **george** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:46 pm

Die band se ratings vir spoed en vrag is:

1. Spoed = 180km/h
2. Vrag = 1150kg

Kyk net wat hy ekstra op het bv voor bumpers, roofracks, drawers ens. oorweeg dan 'n hoer vrag band.

Hi Louis.
Dis een van die 2 deur Prado's en hy is nog stock standard.Dink ook nie hy gaan baie grond pad ry nie

Hangover · Post by **Hangover** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:49 pm

Lollie wrote:Thys

Jy meld nie wat jou band druk is wanneer jy grond paaie ry nie.Ek wil net iets noem wat ek by die mense van Namibie gehoor/geleer het.Ek het gereeld Torrabaai toe gegaan om te hengel.Torrabaai is slegs oop in Desember in Januarie.Daardie stukkie grondpad van die skedel kus het klippe wat skrik vir niks.

Net voor die vakansie seisoen word daardie pad geskraap om dit weer rybaar te maak, in die skraap proses is daar so baie skerp los klippe wat rondle op die pad en wag vir n tyre om stukkend te steek.

Afhangende van die vrag blaas die ouens hulle bande af so laag as moontlik om te verhoed dat die klippe hulle bande so maklik stukkend sny.Die spoed word ook natuurlik aangepas by die banddruk.Daar het ek gesien dat dit niks snaaks is om n boer te sien met 3 spaarwiele op sy bakkie gelaai nie.

Ek was nog elke keer gelukkig en het nie pap wiele gekry nie.Het destyds met Firestone ATX gery

Ek het nou nie verder as Dawie se post gelees nie maar sy dit wat hy se doen my pa al van ek klein is en ek doen dit ook nou en ek self het nog nie een enkele pap tyre op n grondpad agv n sidewall gekry nie. Dit gan oor die sidewall wat nie kan vervorm om n skerp klip as die band baie hard is nie maar wel as hy sag is. Ek moet ook by se dat die goodyear wrangler AT volgens my n baie swak band is en al amper my pa se lewe gekos het. Hy hou niks van enige gewig nie...

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:42 pm

Okay.. this is what happened..

After much deliberation, debating and asking questions, I decided to go with my first choice after all. I started asking around for quotes and because I was under the impression BFG A/T's would be overpriced I was looking at M/T's of different makes as well. I asked Eloise de Wet from Mufasa Tyres (http://www.mufasa.co.za" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) for a quote on a whole host of tyres, and she gave me the BFG A/T's at a very competitive price.

I decided to go 1 size up, from 265/70x16 to 265/75x16 and that seemed to have made all the difference. Anyway, I had them fitted this afternoon, at R3190 per tyre alles included...

Before...

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The new rubber...

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After..

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I havent taken any more pictures yet, but I will soon...

Thanks guys for all the input, it is really appreciated.

That's what makes this forum great..

Tenk · Post by **Tenk** » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:32 pm

Thys, jy het n goeie keuse gemaak, ek dink jou tyre probleme is verby!