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successful and complete Lexus V8 conversions???
hi!!
well have read quiet a few posts on here, about the lexuz V8 conversions and find a lot of discussion is still going on on a few matters!!
so have a few questions??
1. has any one on here done their conversion, complete, running with out constant attention of sorting out little issues?? services and maintenance aside!!
2. what advice do you give, would you do it again???
3. total cost, of the DIY???
have read stories of people talking about 50 and 60k, from my home work see it as under 30k
have a bigger radiator already, have a dual 57mm exhaust already, and from chatting to Fana!!
all comments welcome!!
feel free to comment or criticize!!
thanx
well have read quiet a few posts on here, about the lexuz V8 conversions and find a lot of discussion is still going on on a few matters!!
so have a few questions??
1. has any one on here done their conversion, complete, running with out constant attention of sorting out little issues?? services and maintenance aside!!
2. what advice do you give, would you do it again???
3. total cost, of the DIY???
have read stories of people talking about 50 and 60k, from my home work see it as under 30k
have a bigger radiator already, have a dual 57mm exhaust already, and from chatting to Fana!!
all comments welcome!!
feel free to comment or criticize!!
thanx
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Jong dit hang net af of jy lus is om te spoeg en plak en of wil jy n ordentlikke job doen met regte Toyota spares sonder dat jy skaam is om die bonnet oop temaak. Ek dink 30K is bietjie knap, maar dit is wat ek sê kom ons hoor by die manne wat al die V8 lexus gedoen het soos die grensvegter van landtrovia. 8 )
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thanx for the reply!!
reason why I looked at 30k, is after spoken to Fana, maybe should of been more specific on my original post, am keeping my original gearbox!!
back on info from Fana, motor running with bellhousing clutches, EFI..............................22k, so though another 8k for every thing else!!
engine mounts, exhaust connecting pipes, EFI fuel pump (under 1k, new!!), air filters,...............!!
still open to all comments
thanx!!
reason why I looked at 30k, is after spoken to Fana, maybe should of been more specific on my original post, am keeping my original gearbox!!
back on info from Fana, motor running with bellhousing clutches, EFI..............................22k, so though another 8k for every thing else!!
engine mounts, exhaust connecting pipes, EFI fuel pump (under 1k, new!!), air filters,...............!!
still open to all comments
thanx!!
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laat weet ons wat dit jou gekos het na die tyd, ek het n kompleet conversion gehad en my gat het gejuk en die selfde engine in gesit maar net die VVTi version en dit het my 25k gekos en daar was nie eers labour geld nie. sterkte
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Ek het nog NOOIT OOIT van 'n trouble free conversion gehoor nie. NOG NOOIT!!!
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Ek waarborg jou 'n hoofpyn, en holpyn, en tandpyn, en tennis elmboog, en water op die knie, en skildklier probleme, en prostaat pyn, en rumatiek, en 'n trippel hartomleiding, ens.
Maar, as dit werk, en wanneer dit werk (gewoonlik nie vir baie lank nie) is dit so dem lekker, al die pyn en lyding bly vergete, en dan kom dit weer terug, en die siklus begin van voor af.
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Ek waarborg jou 'n hoofpyn, en holpyn, en tandpyn, en tennis elmboog, en water op die knie, en skildklier probleme, en prostaat pyn, en rumatiek, en 'n trippel hartomleiding, ens.
Maar, as dit werk, en wanneer dit werk (gewoonlik nie vir baie lank nie) is dit so dem lekker, al die pyn en lyding bly vergete, en dan kom dit weer terug, en die siklus begin van voor af.
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Thanks Ewald net toe ek dink en weet watter weg om tegaan kom jy ek jy Spoil al my fun! Thanks for nothing!!!!
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Daai is nie van die conversion nie, Ewald...DOELLOOS wrote:Ek het nog NOOIT OOIT van 'n trouble free conversion gehoor nie. NOG NOOIT!!!
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Maar, as dit werk, en wanneer dit werk (gewoonlik nie vir baie lank nie) is dit so dem lekker, al die pyn en lyding bly vergete, en dan kom dit weer terug, en die siklus begin van voor af.
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at this stage the Ford V6 is starting to look like it might stay!!
this might be the easy way out, however this way know what I'm in for, and know what to expect!!
in terms of power, costs, repairs, heat, consumption.................!! and have plenty of spares for these!!
this might be the easy way out, however this way know what I'm in for, and know what to expect!!
in terms of power, costs, repairs, heat, consumption.................!! and have plenty of spares for these!!
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Daai een verwys spesifiek na die engine management system uncle skerpioen...Scorpion wrote:Daai is nie van die conversion nie, Ewald...DOELLOOS wrote:Ek het nog NOOIT OOIT van 'n trouble free conversion gehoor nie. NOG NOOIT!!!
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Maar, as dit werk, en wanneer dit werk (gewoonlik nie vir baie lank nie) is dit so dem lekker, al die pyn en lyding bly vergete, en dan kom dit weer terug, en die siklus begin van voor af.
Moenie lelik wees nie, ek is besig om 'n trailer te reel sodat jou holpyn kan weggaan (vir 'n ruk)...
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Get an EFI Manifold and system for the v6, high compression pistons, a good torque cam, a ballance and a flow job, that is still a good package.
If you want to fit the Lexus, i've got ready made mounts that slots straight in.
If you want to fit the Lexus, i've got ready made mounts that slots straight in.
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DOELLOOS wrote:Ek het nog NOOIT OOIT van 'n trouble free conversion gehoor nie. NOG NOOIT!!!
Urban Myth...
Ek waarborg jou 'n hoofpyn, en holpyn, en tandpyn, en tennis elmboog, en water op die knie, en skildklier probleme, en prostaat pyn, en rumatiek, en 'n trippel hartomleiding, ens.
Maar, as dit werk, en wanneer dit werk (gewoonlik nie vir baie lank nie) is dit so dem lekker, al die pyn en lyding bly vergete, en dan kom dit weer terug, en die siklus begin van voor af.
Gert moet jou nie te veel aan Ewald steur nie die rede hoekom sy siklus elke keer van vooraf begin is omdat hy alke keer 'n as sy voertuig uitgesort is die ding smous en weer begin, hy is 'n conversion junkie.Gertc wrote:Thanks Ewald net toe ek dink en weet watter weg om tegaan kom jy ek jy Spoil al my fun! Thanks for nothing!!!!
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Ons conversion werk en dit is reg gedoen...geen kort paaie nie en hy sal werk vir nog jare om te kom
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My chom dan moet jy na my bakkie kom kyk ek het geen probleme met myne nieDOELLOOS wrote:Ek het nog NOOIT OOIT van 'n trouble free conversion gehoor nie. NOG NOOIT!!!
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Die een ding wat ek al geleer het is dat almal se conversions GREAT is terwyl die bakkie syne is, maar die oomblik as hy verkoop stek die probleme kop uit. Snaaks ne???
As joune GREAT is, is ek baie bly vir jou, en is jy een van die BAIE min wat dit so ervaar...
Al die ouens wat conversions doen sal ook vir jou vertel dat hulle conversions almal GREAT werk...
Die realiteit is dat 90% van conversions nie 100% reg werk nie, maar ek LOVE dit nogsteeds. Soos Bennie se, ek is 'n conversion Junkie!!!
As joune GREAT is, is ek baie bly vir jou, en is jy een van die BAIE min wat dit so ervaar...
Al die ouens wat conversions doen sal ook vir jou vertel dat hulle conversions almal GREAT werk...
Die realiteit is dat 90% van conversions nie 100% reg werk nie, maar ek LOVE dit nogsteeds. Soos Bennie se, ek is 'n conversion Junkie!!!
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My buurman het vandag iemand se SRx gedyno met 'n 11JZ-GTE in wat 195HP op die agterwiele gemaak het.
Geen conversion sal ooit 100% perfek wees as jy soos ek is nie ek sal altyd soek na nog plek om perfeksie te verbeter, maar bygesê ek voel die selfde oor meeste karre met hulle origional engins ook, daar is altyd iets wat ek kan dink om te improve, maar dis nie te sê ek gaan daar krap nie, Ek dink bv aan iets soos karre se elektriese vensters wat net werk as die sleutel in di eignition is of so iets, altyd room for improvement. Ja en baie van daai is tog maar krap waar dit nie jeuk nie.
So as jy like om te krap hier en daar dan is 'n conversion vir jou as jy glad nie jou hande wil vuil hê nie en jy het 'n bodemlose beursie dan ook anders bly maar weg.
Maar daar is niks so satisfying as om iets te ry wat jy self gebou het nie...
Geen conversion sal ooit 100% perfek wees as jy soos ek is nie ek sal altyd soek na nog plek om perfeksie te verbeter, maar bygesê ek voel die selfde oor meeste karre met hulle origional engins ook, daar is altyd iets wat ek kan dink om te improve, maar dis nie te sê ek gaan daar krap nie, Ek dink bv aan iets soos karre se elektriese vensters wat net werk as die sleutel in di eignition is of so iets, altyd room for improvement. Ja en baie van daai is tog maar krap waar dit nie jeuk nie.
So as jy like om te krap hier en daar dan is 'n conversion vir jou as jy glad nie jou hande wil vuil hê nie en jy het 'n bodemlose beursie dan ook anders bly maar weg.
Maar daar is niks so satisfying as om iets te ry wat jy self gebou het nie...
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Ek het een.DOELLOOS wrote:Ek het nog NOOIT OOIT van 'n trouble free conversion gehoor nie. NOG NOOIT!!!
Ek het geen idee waarvan jy praat nie.. :wth:DOELLOOS wrote: Daai een verwys spesifiek na die engine management system uncle skerpioen...
Moenie lelik wees nie, ek is besig om 'n trailer te reel sodat jou holpyn kan weggaan (vir 'n ruk)...
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Hoe dink jy moet daai stuk scrap van jou by Bennie kom????
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Mnr Doelloos,
Dit is heel duidelik dat u totaal en al misingelig is. Daar is niks fout met Bosbeer nie, hy het net sonder brandstof gaan staan en mnr Benhur het aangebied om hom weer in Pretoria vol te maak.
Ek hoop dit klaar alle onduidelikhede op.
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Dit is heel duidelik dat u totaal en al misingelig is. Daar is niks fout met Bosbeer nie, hy het net sonder brandstof gaan staan en mnr Benhur het aangebied om hom weer in Pretoria vol te maak.
Ek hoop dit klaar alle onduidelikhede op.
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Moenie worry nie, ek het nie eers meer 'n stuk scrap nie, ek moet JOUNE beny...
Ek gaan maar net vir Bennie help om vir Bosbeer vol te maak. Ons sal hom met die PATROL gaan haal, en dan unleaded ingooi...
Ek gaan maar net vir Bennie help om vir Bosbeer vol te maak. Ons sal hom met die PATROL gaan haal, en dan unleaded ingooi...
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Jy gaan binnekort een hê as jy 'n Navara koop...
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Ek weet nie van iemand wat geld het om die Spartan te kan koop nie Oja en alles op my bakkie werk reg die power steering, AC, heater en die VVTi soos dit moet en beter. En vir die wat wonder die TPS ookDOELLOOS wrote:maar die oomblik as hy verkoop stek die probleme kop uit. Snaaks ne???
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Spartan wrote:Ek weet nie van iemand wat geld het om die Spartan te kan koop nie Oja en alles op my bakkie werk reg die power steering, AC, heater en die VVTi soos dit moet en beter. En vir die wat wonder die TPS ookDOELLOOS wrote:maar die oomblik as hy verkoop stek die probleme kop uit. Snaaks ne???
Vir nou ja...
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Ek spoeg en plak nie op n conversion nieDOELLOOS wrote:Vir nou ja...
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right!!
after many phone calls and stopping at various places, and this thread believe that a successful conversion is possible!!
reason why I had doubts is due to what I read here and other places!!
self have done gearbox conversions, in both cases with Toyota Gearboxes, once with the Cressida gearbox (think the 3.0 i, the one with the thicker input shaft), in a skyline, .............................long story, long time ago!!
then more recent the 21R gearbox onto the Sierra, both worked fine
however a motor conversion is different or maybe so only in my mind, couz of all extra things that need to be done and taken care of!!
have spoken to various people, well informed people including Saibie, did not get hold of Dictator, have Grahams cell number, however even the office number went unanswered on friday!!
also spoke to Fana, and as things went on, got all the info!!
one of the things that I did not realize is that the VVi that every one talks about is not what is most commonly used for theb conversions, and so we learn!!
so the plan so far is Fana's set up,complete started and serviced motor, with a Dicktator (know the back round of this unit, and some of the people behind the development), with the original box
will see if I can get it done for around 25k
feeling more and more positive about the whole project!!
now just need to sell the Cressida advertised in the for sale section, to get money to start the project
the for the V6 conversion guys, will be selling a lot of my V6 spares, and have a lot of nice spares
after many phone calls and stopping at various places, and this thread believe that a successful conversion is possible!!
reason why I had doubts is due to what I read here and other places!!
self have done gearbox conversions, in both cases with Toyota Gearboxes, once with the Cressida gearbox (think the 3.0 i, the one with the thicker input shaft), in a skyline, .............................long story, long time ago!!
then more recent the 21R gearbox onto the Sierra, both worked fine
however a motor conversion is different or maybe so only in my mind, couz of all extra things that need to be done and taken care of!!
have spoken to various people, well informed people including Saibie, did not get hold of Dictator, have Grahams cell number, however even the office number went unanswered on friday!!
also spoke to Fana, and as things went on, got all the info!!
one of the things that I did not realize is that the VVi that every one talks about is not what is most commonly used for theb conversions, and so we learn!!
so the plan so far is Fana's set up,complete started and serviced motor, with a Dicktator (know the back round of this unit, and some of the people behind the development), with the original box
will see if I can get it done for around 25k
feeling more and more positive about the whole project!!
now just need to sell the Cressida advertised in the for sale section, to get money to start the project
the for the V6 conversion guys, will be selling a lot of my V6 spares, and have a lot of nice spares
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Wat bedoel jykfxnando wrote:one of the things that I did not realize is that the VVi that every one talks about is not what is most commonly used for theb conversions, and so we learn!!
Dit is nou n stap in die regte rigtingkfxnando wrote:will be selling a lot of my V6 spares, and have a lot of nice spares
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Spartan wrote:Wat bedoel jykfxnando wrote:one of the things that I did not realize is that the VVi that every one talks about is not what is most commonly used for theb conversions, and so we learn!!
from my understanding, and pls help me right if i have wondered off the rails, not all the motors are VVi
the VVi s are the later Lexus motors, and the original motors are simpler plain quad cams!! and 4.0L V8s
so I understand and so I have been told, by more then one source
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And another one bites the dust!!!
Welcome to the club... I am looking forward to all your posts.
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pls do tell more!!!DOELLOOS wrote:And another one bites the dust!!!
Welcome to the club... I am looking forward to all your posts.
that is why me here, couz I dont know!!
and the more info I can get the better, and the better the decision I can make!!
pls do tell, even if you think I might not wish to hear what you have to say!! ALL comments welcome!!
one of my good Friends is dead set against this conversion, however I still listen and make my own choice!! and yet the idea/project goes on!!
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A successful conversion will cost nothing less than R50K...be prepared.
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thanx for the reply!!DOELLOOS wrote:A successful conversion will cost nothing less than R50K...be prepared.
however need to ask, how does that number come up???
self have these numbers!!
R22 000 for running motor, with dictator, bellhousing, clutch, and every thing that goes with that!!
take note am using my original gearbox, so props shaft mods needed
have a 4 core radiator, so that is sorted, have a variety of electric fans here at home, fixed fans at the V8 shops are cheap
will also need a Fuel injection fuel pump, good quality after market, under 1k, have a contact for this one!!
have 25k(planed), max 30k for every thing, engine mountings, there is someone here that has a set, still need to contact him and get a price
rubber hoses, Airfilter, fuel filter,
for 50k, then the V6 will remain for a long time to come!!
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DOELLOOS wrote:A successful conversion will cost nothing less than R50K...be prepared.
pls do give more info, on how that number was arrived at!!
very possible that me missing something!! and you guys have been there and done these conversions!!
again on my vehicle already have the 4 core radiator, the dual 57mm exhausts, yep will need the X-over pipe, and the connection to the Lexus manifolds!!
am planing to use the Lexus exhaust manifolds for quiet a while!!
was the above part of the 50k
if it means that the project will take me considerably longer due to lack of funds so be it!!
V6 will continue to do duty for a while longer till the V8 is ready to go in!!
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Remember one thing, the conversion is not complete once the motor is in and it drives off the workshop floor. The conversion is only finished once all the debugging and snag-fixing is done, and this can take 2 years depending on how often you drive it and the condition of certain parts in your vehicle that has to cope with the stresses of increased power. Also there is a huge labour cost involved as most of the fixes are not off the shelf solutions and a lot of manufacturing and trial and error work is necessary sometimes. You might be lucky and get somebody who has done these things many times before but then they charge for their time and expertise. Therefore, I have to agree with Ewald, the amount of R50K is a conservative estimate...
I know, I have been through this a few times before... but to me that is all part of the fun...
I know, I have been through this a few times before... but to me that is all part of the fun...
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Ten minste is daar nog ouens oor wat weet waarvan hulle praatKaspaas wrote: I have to agree with Ewald, the amount of R50K is a conservative estimate...
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Would have to say get readdy for it. You dont want to fly out and buy sumthing, do it and say man i should have done it diffrently. You can cut the corners off a mod but would say you WILL be sorry at the end of the day. Whats your plan with the mounts ? you could go to the midas and buy yourself a set of frot mounts for R17 or you could look at using the gel filled agents mounts at R3000 a pop. Your choice at the end of the day but its those small things that add up.
Frot mounts = ruff ridder
Agent mounts = smooth
You can find a cheap radiator but dont cry when your motor pops because the tank poped off a year down the line.
You going to have to build a box at the back for all your computers because with the aftermarket stuff you got one box to run the motor one box to run gear box one for vvt, one to switch on all the other boxes.
Frot mounts = ruff ridder
Agent mounts = smooth
You can find a cheap radiator but dont cry when your motor pops because the tank poped off a year down the line.
You going to have to build a box at the back for all your computers because with the aftermarket stuff you got one box to run the motor one box to run gear box one for vvt, one to switch on all the other boxes.
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Finally, recognition for my superior persona...Kaspaas wrote:Remember one thing, the conversion is not complete once the motor is in and it drives off the workshop floor. The conversion is only finished once all the debugging and snag-fixing is done, and this can take 2 years depending on how often you drive it and the condition of certain parts in your vehicle that has to cope with the stresses of increased power. Also there is a huge labour cost involved as most of the fixes are not off the shelf solutions and a lot of manufacturing and trial and error work is necessary sometimes. You might be lucky and get somebody who has done these things many times before but then they charge for their time and expertise. Therefore, I have to agree with Ewald, the amount of R50K is a conservative estimate...
I know, I have been through this a few times before... but to me that is all part of the fun...
Kaspaas, I will get working on the Ewald fanclub as soon as I can, you can be the first member!!!
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Fernando if you don't fit a Microtech ECU... Spartan will never speak to you again! So fit anything but a Microtech...
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Ek kan sien jy is oningelig en weet nie lekker waarvan jy praat nie en het ook nie n clue van hoe word n ECU gemap nie, of wat dit beteken nie, dis hoekom jy n stock ECU gebruik. Ons weet ook wie is jou pal's en dit spreek boekdele oor jou comments hier.Demon wrote:with the aftermarket stuff you got one box to run the motor one box to run gear box one for vvt, one to switch on all the other boxes.
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Ou eiers hoe weet jy watse ECU ek gebruik, het jy hom al gesien Gebruik jy nie ook n aftermarket ECU nieMr_B wrote:Fernando if you don't fit a Microtech ECU... Spartan will never speak to you again! So fit anything but a Microtech...
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Nee wat ek gebruik nog daai ou stuk donkie ECU... Ducktator of soe iets... of is dit 'n Bentator... wens ek het 'n MicroVrek gehad!
What I'd really like is the ECU they used in Kitt in Knight Rider... check die cool ECU:
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1st we are accused that our ECU's cant work properly cause they to small, now we need to build boxes to load all our bulky stuff. You guys must now make up your mind which is it :? :?
End of the day lets all agree that to each his own. :!: :!:
If you have no clue how an engine works and how to successfully manage all its functions and have plenty money to throw at the problem then go for an OE ECU.
If you like to spend your money on more important things then throwing it down the toilet and have a bit of savvy to figure out how to control the different functions of your engine properly then fit a decent after market one, spent some time and find out which one will suite your application best.
End of the day lets all agree that to each his own. :!: :!:
If you have no clue how an engine works and how to successfully manage all its functions and have plenty money to throw at the problem then go for an OE ECU.
If you like to spend your money on more important things then throwing it down the toilet and have a bit of savvy to figure out how to control the different functions of your engine properly then fit a decent after market one, spent some time and find out which one will suite your application best.
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Bennie... with all due respect, it will cost you alot more money to, as you put it, "find out which one will suite your application best"... than just leaving the original ECU in place, which controls everything 100% correct in the first place...BenHur wrote:If you have no clue how an engine works and how to successfully manage all its functions and have plenty money to throw at the problem then go for an OE ECU.
If you like to spend your money on more important things then throwing it down the toilet and have a bit of savvy to figure out how to control the different functions of your engine properly then fit a decent after market one, spent some time and find out which one will suite your application best.
Maar ja... End of the day lets all agree that to each his own.
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Hi, my name is Johann and I am a conversion junkie...
No seriously, conversions are awesome and I, for one, will always be one of the okes who want one. BUT conversions are a lot more expensive than what most people think. I'm with Ewald and Kaspaas on this one - R50k is a conservative estamate. What you have calculated so far is not bad (if you plan on doing it yourself and it excludes labour), but add at least another R10k as a contingency.
If this does not fall within your immediate budget, then start by purchasing everything and getting it to run correctly and build from there (follow Kaspaas' thread on his newly acquired Chevy V8). That way it's not all one big shock. It will also help if your conversion vehicle is not an everyday car and you can afford to have it standing for a while.
Good luck!
No seriously, conversions are awesome and I, for one, will always be one of the okes who want one. BUT conversions are a lot more expensive than what most people think. I'm with Ewald and Kaspaas on this one - R50k is a conservative estamate. What you have calculated so far is not bad (if you plan on doing it yourself and it excludes labour), but add at least another R10k as a contingency.
If this does not fall within your immediate budget, then start by purchasing everything and getting it to run correctly and build from there (follow Kaspaas' thread on his newly acquired Chevy V8). That way it's not all one big shock. It will also help if your conversion vehicle is not an everyday car and you can afford to have it standing for a while.
Good luck!
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Bretton
I can get you an origional 4YE ECU with airflow meter and all the mechanical idle ups if you rather want that to downgrade your van's conversion with.
I can get you an origional 4YE ECU with airflow meter and all the mechanical idle ups if you rather want that to downgrade your van's conversion with.
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Bennie, without rehashing the same old argument... if you got an old tech motor like a 4Y(first build in 1986 or so)... where the EFi components and technology are long out of date, then yes by all means get the latest aftermarket ECU to control that engine, because the modern 2007 aftermarket ECU will beat the 1986 OEM ECU hands down...just like we all know an Intel Core 2 Duo chip is far superior(very far) to an Intel 486 XT chip... just like we have done with our 4Y's... and hordes of other car enthusiasts have done with all sorts of older gen engines...BenHur wrote:Bretton
I can get you an origional 4YE ECU with airflow meter and all the mechanical idle ups if you rather want that to downgrade your van's conversion with.
But if you are lucky enough to be able to fit a new lexus V8 VVTi or 2JZ from the latest Lexus vehicles... with the latest tech already built in... where the Japs have spent millions of $ on recent R&D to optimised there OEM ECU for that engine... then I say go with the original ECU...
How much money,time and intellectual knowledge does Dicktator, etc... have at there disposal to develop there ECU's?? This verses the resources at Toyota's disposal?? How much does Toyota have riding on getting the ECU's right... compared to Spitronics, Mr Turbo and all the rest?
It's simple... a modern engine(with it's advanced tech) will work 100% with it's modern OEM ECU... an older generation engine may well benefit from the technological advancements in the new generation ECU(like sequential vs batch, carb vs injectors, vac/weight advance vs precise timing maps), this being heavily dependant on who does the installation and who does the dyno tuning of course... but I cannot see why someone would want to tamper with a modern ECU on a modern engine, that in combination has proven itself 100%... just to get an extra 10kw on an engine that already produces say 180kw?? especially when we are talking 4x4 environment, not street racing and track racing where every KW, NM, and BHP count...
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thanx for all the great replies!!
great to get all the different opinions!!
somehow, feel that I need to repeat some of the info
am using my original gearbox no Gearbox controller needed!!!
already have a 4 core radiator had to find a way of keeping the Ford V6 cool
will be going with the dictator system, for various reasons
labor cost, will be doing almost every things seld!!
as for mapping the ECU, easy, one trip to Nitro Performance (have been dealing with them for around 20years) and all will be sorted
understand that there are always unexpected things, and appreciate the guys who have done the conversions experience
however hope to be the 1st to do it for under 50k
engine mount, not going to use the 3K ones from the Lexus, however also not going to use the R20 ones
there are many options on this
Sierra ones are great and they are fluid filled, just as an example and a possibility!!
and will be open about it, and what I spend on it!!
here is something else, am not the only one planing this conversion, a friend with a Musso is also planing on doing a similar conversion
self spend maybe way too much time on forums, however once the conversion is done and while doing it, will stick around and pass on the info!!
will see what the final bill is!!
yep very good chance will do it piece for piece!! my money printing machine is broken and still waiting for spares!!
the vehicle is still mobile, and still tows, and its no longer a day to day drive!!
again thanx for the imput, and feel free to keep it coming!!
great to get all the different opinions!!
somehow, feel that I need to repeat some of the info
am using my original gearbox no Gearbox controller needed!!!
already have a 4 core radiator had to find a way of keeping the Ford V6 cool
will be going with the dictator system, for various reasons
labor cost, will be doing almost every things seld!!
as for mapping the ECU, easy, one trip to Nitro Performance (have been dealing with them for around 20years) and all will be sorted
understand that there are always unexpected things, and appreciate the guys who have done the conversions experience
however hope to be the 1st to do it for under 50k
engine mount, not going to use the 3K ones from the Lexus, however also not going to use the R20 ones
there are many options on this
Sierra ones are great and they are fluid filled, just as an example and a possibility!!
and will be open about it, and what I spend on it!!
here is something else, am not the only one planing this conversion, a friend with a Musso is also planing on doing a similar conversion
self spend maybe way too much time on forums, however once the conversion is done and while doing it, will stick around and pass on the info!!
will see what the final bill is!!
yep very good chance will do it piece for piece!! my money printing machine is broken and still waiting for spares!!
the vehicle is still mobile, and still tows, and its no longer a day to day drive!!
again thanx for the imput, and feel free to keep it coming!!
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Fernando
I am soon going to do Scorpion's LEX with a Dicktator V8 UNIT with a 36-1 trigger and coil packs running wasted spark. I will post pics and do a write-up. I am sure you may be able to get it going for under 30K if you do it yourself, but you may pick up little snags like aircon etc that may shoot up cost but all don't have to be done in one go either.
All the best, keep us posted
I am soon going to do Scorpion's LEX with a Dicktator V8 UNIT with a 36-1 trigger and coil packs running wasted spark. I will post pics and do a write-up. I am sure you may be able to get it going for under 30K if you do it yourself, but you may pick up little snags like aircon etc that may shoot up cost but all don't have to be done in one go either.
All the best, keep us posted
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Mr B, ek stem 100% saam met jou, dis eintlik algemene kennis 101 STD ECU op vvti enjins. Groete
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Guys onthou net VVT is nie rocket science nie net 'n solonoid of stepper op die cams
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Re: successful and complete Lexus V8 conversions???
I hear you Bennie, again referring to my post above... on a modern engine, controlled by a modern OEM ECU... within the realm of 4x4ing... what advantage will the aftermarket ECU give me?BenHur wrote:Guys onthou net VVT is nie rocket science nie net 'n solonoid of stepper op die cams
VVTi has been around for quite some time, and only now Dicktator has a Cam Controller... why is it not built into a single integrated package... so with a VVTi engine I now need to replace the OEM ECU, with not one but 2 ECU's... not forgetting the auto box controller... if needed...
For the needs of the average 4x4 application, a new engine with latest OEM ECU is 100%... if you want to play... so be it... fit an aftermarket ECU and have fun... on an older gen engine, converting from carb/vac/weight advance and EFi(timing & fuel) makes a huge difference... that's where the aftermarket stuff comes into it's own in my opinion... and on the race track of course!
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I see Dicktator now sell an air/fuel monitor... including lambda probe and display... wouldn't mind one of these!
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Re: successful and complete Lexus V8 conversions???
maybe, this will light a fire of some sort!!
all our local systems are based on the haltech, yes!!!
http://www.haltech.com/
yep all of them!!!
however the Dicktator, at least with the info available to me, and do have in depth info about the dictator, is the one that more closely resembles the workings of the Haltech!!
enjoy!!
all our local systems are based on the haltech, yes!!!
http://www.haltech.com/
yep all of them!!!
however the Dicktator, at least with the info available to me, and do have in depth info about the dictator, is the one that more closely resembles the workings of the Haltech!!
enjoy!!
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Re: successful and complete Lexus V8 conversions???
En daar verloor jy die hele gehoor hulle weet nie eers wat is n cam nie. Ek en jy en dalk n paar ander manne hier weet dit en weet hoe om dit te stel nadat ons met dit gewerk het omdat ons aftermarket ECU's gebruik maar vir n ou wat OEM ECU gebruik is dit baie meer as rocket science, TO THEM IT WILL BE A NIGHTMARE, soos wanneer n woef vir n horlosie sit en kyk en hy weet nie wat dit is en hoekom hy vir dit kyk nie As hulle die note lees sal hulle weet wie hulle is.BenHur wrote:Guys onthou net VVT is nie rocket science nie net 'n solonoid of stepper op die cams
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Ek het darem lanklaas so 'n gekerem en gekners van tanne gesien !!!
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Praat jy wat tande het, Hoeveel V8's het jy al gebou ek het jou nog nooit gehoor huil oor alles nie
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Re: successful and complete Lexus V8 conversions???
I like your post MR B. The SAV BMWs run with gotech and it would obviously be so that the guys can tune it and land up with 870 hp. So the aftermarket has got its place. They are not worryed about fuel consumption and running solinoids and stuff. In the case where you want sumthing as a every day driver then ya i would say STD. Nothing to the vvt it just sends oil to the cam and that just alters cam position. I dont have to connect one wire for the vvt on STD, it just plugs straight in ( done ) So ya you guys are rite nothing to the vvt but the BIG question is how well is it controlled and i mean not going up to it and just getting a reading with a tester while your truck is running and saying good its on. We cant say that the STD will not alter that cam at a surten time in your drive. Its got a veriable built in the ecu which is reading from your MAF and cam sensor and thats then how it will understand what driving conditions you are under. As far as the STD setup being costley dose not make sence. With the 1j motor I can land a ecu for around R2000 from Japan ( from the wrekkers that side )
Whats the price on that dictator again ? And where you going to find a used one ?
At the end Im happy to have the STD as i know it was built by a machine.
Whats the price on that dictator again ? And where you going to find a used one ?
At the end Im happy to have the STD as i know it was built by a machine.
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Why what advantage would you get? It would mean that there will have to be too many different boxes on the market. The way it is now, if you dont need VVTi you dont need to buy a box with this capabilities in keeping cost down. Now if you want VVTi later like spartan did now all you need to do is add the module you dont have to forklift your ECU alltogether. Its all about business savvy my friendMr_B wrote:BenHur wrote:. why is it not built into a single integrated package...
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