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well, as some might of noticed, Beetle juice is a neighbor, well just a few houses away!!
and now also a member here, also looking at going the Lexus V8, however just into a Musso!!

we took a great trip yesterday, and got a huge amount of info, witch at least helped convince us that we are on the right track, with the Lexus V8!!

again a big thanx to Bennie!!

now onto topic!!
as can be imagined, all discussions we have is about the conversions, even the wifes are starting with the Lexus V8 jokes!!

we have one big question????

is there no off the shelf or off some other motor Toyota or not, FLYWHEEl that will fit straight on???

have read that the 3SGTE flywheel with some slotting fits!!!


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thanx, however not sure how to put this, without offending you or any one on this site!!

however, Gilo will be my last resort, and he has done work for me before!!! and there was nothing wrong with the work!!

as I work only a few km away from where he is, that was the 1st stop when this whole conversion story started!!
popped in there and was shocked at the reception and attitude that I got from his wife/receptionist!!
had the one guy from work with me, and was highly embarrassed!!!
and I was the one that always used to say to every one, Gilo ............Gilo.........
well no more!!!! :evil:

for a manufactured fly wheel there is Fana on here, witch looks like I will most probably use, however was just wondering if there was not something else that just bolts on!!

we just exploring all the available and possible options/solutions !!!

thanx anycase!! :mrgreen:


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am not the only one with the above issue, friend where we stopped on the way home, has done a few conversions, he runs a workshop, he is a gentleman, unlike me, talks of the same issues!!
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kfxnando wrote:as shocked at the reception and attitude that I got from his wife/receptionist!!
had the one guy from work with me, and was highly embarrassed!!!
and I was the one that always used to say to every one, Gilo ............Gilo.........
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Ek het al hier op die forum gese Gilo se service is glad nie goed nie, dit is nou al n paar jaar wat ons wag dat hulle terugkom met n quote vir n flywheel :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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Rian is daai bellhousing en flywheel die een met die 235 mm 4y clutch en die housing die auto een met n adaptor agter op
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:clap: cnc gesny wnnr getoets.
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well, have seen those adapter plates, on I think the lextreme forum, and at 1st me liked the idea, and still think is some case its a great idea!!
however, we are getting motors only(at a great price), and so we wont have the Lexus Bellhousing for a start!!
so either me will need to get a front adapter plate, or a whole new casted bellhousing(as I have in the Sierra with the 21R gearbox), or have my Ford bellhousing modified!!

then on the clutch, the set up that I(we, friend would use his own Musso set up) plan to use, would use my original clutch (2.5 TDI Ford/3.4L V6) maybe with just a stiffer pressure plate!!

that way at any stage a stock kit off the shelf could get me out of a sticky situation!!
and about half the price of a Toyota 3.0KZTe kit!!

the saving in Rand terms of not getting the gearbox, and using the Ford clutch kit,and after getting the pressure plate modified is around R2500, and that could almost be the fuel bill for a trip to the coast with the Family with the quads!!

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Why don't you get the lexus gearbox with the engine? you always do! I think youre bying at the wrong place.

If you have your own plan to modify a thing it is good, that is what its about isnt it?

How ever weve got the stuf available for the guys who hasn't got the facilitys or means to do the things. What the clutch concerns our flywheel takes the 3.0 Toyota Condor clutch.

We do also have flywheels that takes ford presure plates ect. :lol:
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You dont need to mod the 2.5 diesel mazda /ford pressure plate it is strong enough ,I use one in my own 2.5 Ranger and it gets driven hard . As far as the flywheel goes I know thy are CNC turned by Brain but the question was is it a 235 MM or 260 MM . For the WNNR testing what do you test . the sizes of the finished product { witch will be right if Brain turned them }or the property :s of the metal .
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kfxnando you are right buying just the engine because most dealers will give you a discount if you dont take the auto box {auto guys are always looking for boxes because thy brake ]
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The LUK aswell as the SACHS catalog gives the size for a 3L CONDOR as 235 MM .That is the reason why Icast a bellhousing for the Lexus to Toyota box { 21r aswell as KZ } so that you can use the 260 MM clutch
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EISH!!!

this will teach me to sleep late!!! hehehe!!

will start at the beginning!!

Riaan, the reason why we are not getting the toyota Auto Boxes, is couz we dont want them!!
as for looking in the wrong place, we have had a good look at four different suppliers of these motors(on the East Rand), and are going with quality/condition of motors, even though we will pay a little more then the cheapest place
we both have 4x4s, and both wish to keep the original manual gearboxes!! Props, dash 4x4 indication, and internal 4x4 controls!!
and over and above that, people have confirmed that they chew power, most Auto boxes do!!

why reinforce the pressure plate?? agree that it will hold, however our traylor will be close on 2ton, and maybe the reinforcing of the pressure plate will be more to let me sleep easier!! and its quiet cheap to do, for that little piece of mind!!

besides that, me already have one of those clutch kits here from the past, that me could and most probably will have built up in the mean time!!

meantime we will keep dreaming that someone will Cast a complete bellhousing for at least the Ford Gearbox to the Lexus V8
from what we have seen, these setup are sure to get popular!! WINK WINK Fana!!! :wink: :wink:

then, once we get the motors it wont be BOOM its done, we are planing on servicing the motors while they are out, incl new timing belts, plugs, a few seal, and maybe even the Valve stem seals, and the water pump!!
hence why me building a little workshop here at home to have a proper clean place to work on the project!!

right so let me get going and do some work!!

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Fana

Ja wel "size" jy is seker in 'n mate reg oor die groter clutches & jou belhousings wat jy cast, niks daarmee fout nie inteendeel moet ek se dit is "nice" :thumbup:

Maar hoekom die groter goed gebruik as jy nie op die baan gaan jaag of die hele dag soos 'n paloeka wil spin en jaag en te kere gaan nie, as mens dit kalm hou en ordentelik ry werk dit net so goed. Dit hang van jou behoeftes af! :oops:


Ons het vir 'n toets lopie 3liter Cresida clutch ook gebruik met hom het ek karrefaan gesleep ook.

Daarby het ek nog Nitros ook op die Ls 400 gespuit en die ding het gespin dat die rook staan, stel dit so ek wou iets breuk. Al wat gegroet het na 8 maande was die tyres, die clutch het dit gemaak en hy was stock soos wat jy hom oor die toonbank koop hy het nie gegly nie geen probleem gehad nie.

Net soos ons ander vriend "kfxnando" het almal maar hulle eie idees wat ook werk.

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agree Rian, all depends on what one needs!!

and one of the beauties of these projects is that one builds according to ones needs!!

in this case for towing!!

next project, me will go for as light a flywheel as posible!! hehe!! :twisted: :lol: :mrgreen:
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kfxnando

So wil next project be racing car??
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Did you see the flywheels I got? Remember when you visited me I told you that we were working on that well the project is done check out the post. :?
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thanx did see the pics!!
looks great

so what is holding me up???

this is!!

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as soon as this is sold, then all the action will start!!

and so will the selling of all the V6 goodies!! :twisted: :twisted:

the next project will be the Sierra that is in the backround of one of the pics of the started workshop, instead of putting a V6 back in there, it will be a mild Normally aspirated Lexus V8!! maybe with a little Nos latter (love that stuff)
and then will be doing 1/4mile
why Mild???
to be consistent on the 1/4 mile, and on the handicap system a consistent car wins!! and irritates the BIG boys, with the very fast cars!!
would love to run consistent 14s :twisted: :twisted:
that Sierra already has a toyota gearbox!!

that will be a long term project as we (son and self) will be doing that together for Son to learn!!

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Did you know that the standard 4.3vvti does 14 seconds on a 1/4mile overseas ???
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Rian wrote:Did you know that the standard 4.3vvti does 14 seconds on a 1/4mile overseas ???
hi Rian!!

not saying that they dont, however that would be very quick, quicker them hot M3s!!

like I said on the other Forum, there has been a move away from the 1/4 (for a shorter distance) mile at least for the BIG cars!! so we need to be careful with those times

was watching NHRA on ESPN this morning and only saw one set of lights for the ET!! on that track they were not running two sets of timing lights!!

for 14sec 1/4 mile times is for cars doing 0-100 in the mid 5sec!!

not saying it cant be done, we just need to be careful of what we read!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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kfxnando wrote:14sec 1/4 mile times
Dit is voertuie met Ford motors in en hulle word oor die lyn gestoot :twisted: :lol: Grappie
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Goeie verbeelding :clap:
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Gepraat van FORD ,TOYOTA moet nog eers LE MANS probeer wen in 1 2 en 3 de plek in dieselfde ren en dan ook somer 3jaar in n ry .FORD het dit al in die sestigs reggekry .
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Toyota hoef dit nie te wen nie! Kyk net hoeveel voertuie verkoop hulle jaarliks. :lol:
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Dis juis oor hulle tevinnig wou werk dat hulle nou n klomp moet trug roep en regmaak
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Ja swaer! :?
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Why would the clutch on my Lexus/kzte-gearbox conversion shudder like hel. Must the flywheel be cast-iron or steel. The clutch/pressure plate worked just fine on the diesel engin?
Also the clutch feels as if it doesn't push in enough, as the gears grinds...
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Piet

Dit kan 'n paar dinge wees wat dit veroorsaak.

Did you take the clutch out your diesel & just fitted it to the lex on a nother flywheel? The flywheel you fitted it to is it new or used?

The springs on the clucth could be collapsed a bit and when fitted to another flywheel cause it to shatter, hot spots on a flywheel could also be the cause of the shutter. Then just maybe the clutch plate centre could also have been dammadged on the transplant. And the pilot shaft bearing is it oke?



Wether cast iron or steel it should not be a problem.

To slove your gear grinding problem adjust the clutch master on the clutch pedal, you should probably turn the bolt at the bottom of the pedal out about 5mm then it should solve that problem.
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I used the same clutchplate & pressure plate as it was still in good shape, and the steel flywheel was made for it.
The adjustment at the pedal I have also done, eventually too far, and then back again, but the clutch feels as if it is not depressed in far enough. If you just touch it, it feels like a wobble on the pedal as the engin turns :wth:
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That wabble on the pedal sounds like something is running off center, perhaps you should check the flywheel with a dial gauge on the engine. May be it wabbles :shifty:
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kfxnando wrote:well, as some might of noticed, Beetle juice is a neighbor, well just a few houses away!!
and now also a member here, also looking at going the Lexus V8, however just into a Musso!!

we took a great trip yesterday, and got a huge amount of info, witch at least helped convince us that we are on the right track, with the Lexus V8!!

again a big thanx to Bennie!!

now onto topic!!
as can be imagined, all discussions we have is about the conversions, even the wifes are starting with the Lexus V8 jokes!!

we have one big question????

is there no off the shelf or off some other motor Toyota or not, FLYWHEEl that will fit straight on???

have read that the 3SGTE flywheel with some slotting fits!!!


all comments and advice will be welcome!!

thanx!! :mrgreen:

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hi!!

dont quiet understand your post Rian!!

however have since learned that there is an off the shelf Flywheel, however bigger then what is practical with bellhousing and bellhousing space in the vehicle, and not to mention the cost of that off the shelf flywheel!!

however the one you posted looks very much like one of the locally made ones!!

have one similar to that at home!! :mrgreen:
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:clap: 10=10 only one problem it is half the price than yours! :lol:
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Rian wrote::clap: 10=10 only one problem it is half the price than yours! :lol:

maybe maybe not!! no one is quiet sure what I paid!!!! hehehe!!!

there is a thread here somewhere, where it looks like someone might have flywheel that is out or the pressure plate pins are out!!
almost for sure my one will run true!!
self will rather pay for the extra quality and piece of mind!!
although I got a good deal!!

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Bushwacker wrote:I used the same clutchplate & pressure plate as it was still in good shape, and the steel flywheel was made for it.
The adjustment at the pedal I have also done, eventually too far, and then back again, but the clutch feels as if it is not depressed in far enough. If you just touch it, it feels like a wobble on the pedal as the engin turns :wth:
this was what I was talking about!!

and my 2c here is that

either the flywheel is out ---------doubt!!
the center is out, in other words it wasn't properly aliened, witch I doubt as the complain here is about a shudder on the clutch and not a vibration on the motor

or

witch in my opinion is the problem
the locating dowels/pins for the presser plate are out
in other words the center for those 3 pins are out and that will give you a shudder!!
it will be like having the strips on the side of the pressure plate broken!!
the clutch was fine before!!

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Pal though it looks second hand it got wet when it rained, It is stil brand spanking new.

These Flywheels are being cut on a cnc machine. :lol:

But in anny case just teasing you a bit. :lol:

It is the one's that I told you about the other day we use the new 2.7 Hilux clutch on it. :P

Used a couple of them already and no problem, there are guys out of state wanting to buy some of them from us. Got a bloke who Phoned me from America last week, I could not believe it he said he found my site on the net even got stastistics on the hits as well.

Concerning your vibrating problem have the flywheel checked and fit a new clutch kit, it should solve your problem. :wave:
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The flywheel I bought is made out of steel. Steel changes shape when it gets hot. This causes high spots on the surface where the pressure plate is supposed to make contact, and this inturn causes the shudder. My clutch & pressure plate has deteriorated now so much, that I have to replace it :evil:
Who makes cast iron flywheels :think:
Thanks for listening to my sad story :oops:
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Piet

That also Happens, have you schimed your flywheel before ? :?

If you need a cast iron we need the origenal to make you one. :problem:
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I am going to take it in for "snow grinding" at the local Brake & clutch shop. Will see if it works :thumbup:
Thanks for the offer for the cast iron one :wink: I will give this one a last chance.
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