The correct gearbox for my engine 7mge

[pampoen]

Really the correct question should be help.Im revving the brains out of her at 150 km and quiet simply need more legs.Would the 2000 2.7 5spd box work? also maybe getting higher ratios for the diffs , what do your great minds recommend? and please dont tell me i must keep my origional box because even at 120 it sounds uncomfortable.

[ThysdJ]

Never had that problem with Kaspaas, but he's running on 33" tyres, which could make a difference. Kaspaas is running a std 2.2 Hilux drivetrain setup.

I must admit, I hardly ever pushed him to that speed, but on the odd occasion when I did, he was okay. What kind of revs are you talking about?

[G-Man]

Morning all! After a lot of headaches, school fee's, time waisted and then again some school fee's someone advised me to join this site. I am more than relieved! I converted my '92 Hilux with a 7MGTE and WOOOHA!!. Now the hic up's The 4th gear with some pin is broken on my standard box. The mechanic is quoting me R6, 5000 to repair!! I also want to change to another gearbox and had the 3.0 or 2.8 Camry/Cressida in mind. Would this be an option? Please keep in mind, I am by no means a mechanic but want to start doing it myself!

[ThysdJ]

The 7MGTE motor loves to chow gearboxes. Hoppy fried a couple with his 7MGTE Hilux, and some side shafts and I think a diff or two as well. The problem is the power delivery when the turbo kicks in, especially on a trail, with one or more wheels in the air, and with big tyres on. The std Hilux drivetrain was just not designed to handle all that power.

[G-Man]

This is what not to comforting Thx Thys, I will have to start my own topic for advice on this one! Goodluck pampoen, but it seems my hunting has only just begun

[ThysdJ]

Gerdus, praat met Hoppy, he might have some more comforting news for you..

[pampoen]

what are the ratios on the 2.7 gearbox? and what do they sell for? ive heard is just a straight bolt on,maybe a cressida box even?

[Gunta]

If you want a strong box use the jumbo box. as for ratios the only way you will bring the revs down is to change diff ratios, and that is a lot of dollars and you will also lose acceleration.

[pampoen]

If you want a strong box use the jumbo box. as for ratios the only way you will bring the revs down is to change diff ratios, and that is a lot of dollars and you will also lose acceleration.

whats a jumbo box?

[Gunta]

Luke, phone japan auto in Jetpark Jhb 011 397 6789 and speak to them if you want a jumbo box. It has the same dimensions as the 22r box only bigger and stronger. They are not cheap, around R8500 but if you want to run a turbo that is the only box to use as you dont have to modify anything to fit it in. I think it came from the V6 tundra trucks which we dont get here.

[Spartan]

I think it came from the V6 tundra trucks which we dont get here.

Neeeeeeeeee, kom uit die 3.0 Supra en dit is die R154 box

[Spartan]

Luke die 2.8 / 3.0 Cressida ratkas is die een waarmee daai 7M GE geloop het die W58.

[Gunta]

Sorry my mistake, but anyway that is the right gearbox to use R154

[Spartan]

Maar ek dog dit is n 4x4 bakkie

[Gunta]

Maar ek dog dit is n 4x4 bakkie

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[Spartan]

Maar ek dog dit is n 4x4 bakkie

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Is dit nie n SFA nie, R154 op n 4x4 SFA wat van die transfer-case. My vraag is wat wil die man doen, wil hy gaan drag's ry of 4x4
As hy wil 4x4 moet hy n KZ 4x4 box kry wat meer as voldoende is vir wat hy wil doen

[Gunta]

The jumbo box I saw had a transfer case on it which is why I thought it came from the V6 Tundra.

[Spartan]

Ek dink jy het n KZ box gesien swaer, hulle lyk baie dieselfde, waar gaan jy n Tundra box kry 90% van hulle is auto anyway. Die R151F / R150F is wat in die Tacoma's is en hulle lyk ook soos n R154 met TFC.

[Spartan]

Gunta gaan lees die link
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[Demon]

The R151 and R154 are the same box, the only diffrence is the ratios and shaft lenths. Sum of the R154s come with a remote shifter.

Im going the R154 route on my hilux. Ok give me crap about the auto ill take it I was in the wrong with going the auto route. The auto has it's place and I think in the right setup it will be great. The bigest gryp iv got with the auto is that if I just want to sit back and cruise than the damn thing gears right up to fourth and my revs drop and the truck becomes a granny mobile :x
Iv got to hold the revs up for it to remain in higher gears.

Anyways going to get chrome-molly flywheel from Jun in Japan. Only sits at 5.5kg and they claim that it's 200% stronger than the OEM flywheel, R154 which has the long shaft and the bell is a direct bolt on to the 1j
Im not looking to tow heavy so will rather go for the light flywheel. Lekker revs



Any 7m clutches out there ?

Must say thou this auto seems fliping strong...been giving this thing sum serious hitting and its holding out

[Spartan]

Ok give me crap about the auto ill take it

Jou ore was mos toe
Daar is n verskil tussen die R154 wat van n 7M af kom en die wat van die 1J af kom in ratio. Die OEM flywheel weeg 8Kg en werk baie nice, jy sal maar moet pasop vir daai 1J met n manual box in die Lux, sorry jy gebruik mos n OEM ecu

The R151 and R154 are the same box, the only diffrence is the ratios and shaft lenths.

Die R151F en R150F is n 4x4 box wat in die 4Runner en Tacoma gebruik was en die R154 kom uit Supras M A W racing cars so ek glo nie hulle is so baie die selfde soos jy sê nie.

the bell is a direct bolt on to the 1j

Nie as jy n 7M bell housing kry saam met die box nie, die 2J en 1J pas oor en weer maar nie die 7M nie

Any 7m clutches out there ?

Kyk of jy n OEM 7M,1J of 2J pull type clutch kan kry, hulle werk

been giving this thing sum serious hitting and its holding out

Jy het nog nie n 1J gesien perform nie, gooi daai stock ECU weg en gaan after market , jy sal nie die verskil glo nie.

[Thabogrobler]

Nou kan van julle slim ouens my biejie vertel:

1. Die Kz-Te se ratkas, is dit die R154, R151F of die R150?

2. Van die importers het ratkaste wat glo Kz kaste is, maar met die elektriese selector vir die transfer. Is dit moontlik(en beskostigbaar) om dit na die standaard kort stokkie te verander of moet jy dan die solenoid roete gaan?

3. Is die ingevoerder kaste presies dieselfde as die wat plaaslik gebruik is?

[Spartan]

Ek soek self n R151F box sal seker maar een moet invoer as ek een wil he.

[Demon]

I new you were going to be the first one to throw kaak at me about the auto Spartan. The ecu is running lekker and up to now it has not missed a beat.

From what I understand is as follows with regards to the R range box.

The R range gearbox is the strongest of the toyota range.

R151 is the KZTE 2x4 box
As the guys here call it the jumbo box
R151F is the KZTE 4x4 box

R154 is the supra box and yes they did change the bell housing from the 7m to 1j,2j . I was looking for one on ebay and the 7m bell is alot cheaper but no fit :x

The range has all got the same bolt patern so you can fit a r151 to a 1j bell. All you do is change the output shaft for the 190mm and its a fit. Got a price of around R 1,200 for that shaft swap.

Spartan why would you want to go and import when thats the same box out of a kzte and land cruiser ?

I got a price on a recon kzte r151 2x4 box and it's R 6800.
Not sure about the 4x4 box but I was asked if I would like a 2 or 4x4 box.

Not going for the r151 because of the ratios . First to therd gear is to short so my start line ratio is going to be like a dump truck, plenty noise and not going anywhere.

Got a R154 supra box lined up , Bell, clutch fork, slave,throw out bearing all together. Going to send it in for a recon because they say that there is a weakness in the R range box. One small part that costs almost nothing but if driven hard and comes apart can cost you the whole box.

The guys in the USA rave about the jun flywheel from Japan so I mite aswell go for a light strong setup. Spoke to a gent at LUK today and he said it won't make a diffrence when it comes to towing but the response you get from your motor is awsome. He also told me to stay away from a dyna or d4d clutch, he rekons I will rip it apart in the first 2000km.

Will bring my thread back to life with 1x R154 gearbox going in at the start of next month

If it all blows up than I will be totaly honest. Seems like im the ginny pig on this site

Not a fan of the norm so it's cool

[Thabogrobler]

Aha!

So a bit off topic: Can I get a Transfer to fit to a R151? Difficult? Expensive? What transfer? Same one as on the 4Y box?

[Spartan]

Seems like im the ginny pig on this site

Neeeeeeeeeeeee, kom ek verduidelik jou wat is aan die gang soos ek dit sien, jy hou net nie daarvan om te hoor wat ander se ondervind hulle geleer het nie dit is hoekom dit vir jou so voel. Wat goed is daarvan is dat nadat jy gesukkel het, en baie geld gemors het omdat jy dink jy is slim, en reg gekom het gaan niemand jou kan BS nie

[Demon]

Not to sure about the 4x4 setup. Maybe look at getting a kzte box with the transfer case and see if it's going to work for you.

Ill be the first to say that going the with the auto was a waste but life must go on Find the auto nice in trafic but for towing it is kaak because of the first gear on this thing ( to long )

[conversion man]

Het jy nou al die manual box in ? en as jy n clutch wil he wat werk vra vir Gary die combo wat ek vir hom gebou het ( daai man weet hoe om n clutch te toets )