5 VF ZE into SFA

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:27 am

Any advice on which bellhousing & clutch to use to mate a 5VF ZE to standard SFA 5 speed manual box?

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Mon May 16, 2011 10:42 am

Any plans on the 22R EFI???????????

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Mon May 16, 2011 12:19 pm

Ja, maar jy moet die hele engine koop

TOYOTA 4YEFI · Post by **TOYOTA 4YEFI** » Mon May 16, 2011 1:11 pm

Dit sal n baie nice conversion wees want as ek dit nie mis het nie sit die 5vz se max torque op 3600 wat lekker gan werk omdat die 5 spoed ratkas ook rondom 3500 le op 120km/h so die krag le net op die regte plek maar ek wil ook die conversion doen maar weet ook nie waar ek n bellhousing gaan kry nie so ek sal ook in angs wag vir enige informasie rondom die bellhousing

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Mon May 16, 2011 2:00 pm

Stef, how did you guess? It's early days yet but if I do decide to go with the 5VZ FE my 22R EFI will be offered here as a complete motor incl the management. Still no answers on the bellhouising but not in a rush.

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Mon May 16, 2011 2:06 pm

zepplin wrote:Stef, how did you guess? It's early days yet but if I do decide to go with the 5VZ FE my 22R EFI will be offered here as a complete motor incl the management. Still no answers on the bellhouising but not in a rush.

Let me know as soon as you have a price in mind.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon May 16, 2011 2:07 pm

Steve give Allan a call, I'm sure he'll fill u in on what's needed!

Bolt's 4Y EFi may also be up for grabs soon(ish)...

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Mon May 16, 2011 2:40 pm

No thanx i want to keep it real! 22R EFI

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon May 16, 2011 3:08 pm

Yip... the 22R is a knock off of the original 4Y...

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Mon May 16, 2011 3:21 pm

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Tue May 17, 2011 7:44 am

What motor is that?

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Tue May 17, 2011 7:55 am

3.4 V6 non VVT currently found in the Prado.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:30 am

zepplin wrote:3.4 V6 non VVT currently found in the Prado.

You confusing me Steve, the 5VZ was the older 3.4 V6 Prado engine, it's non-VVTi.

The present Prado uses 1GR... which is a 4L V6 with dual VVTi. The closest GR engine to the 5VZ is the 2GR 3.5L V6, but they were never used in the Prado.

The only other Toyota VVTi V6 series were the MZ's... the 3MZ is a 3.3L and again was never used in the Prado range.

:problem:

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:36 am

Now where is that wooden spoon icon

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:45 am

GeorgeJvR wrote:Now where is that wooden spoon icon

No George, no stirring this time, just fact... I get worried for other guys sake, because I've heard many many a tall story to try sell something! Just want to make sure someone's not giving Steve junk information!

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:26 am

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Tue May 17, 2011 11:54 am

zepplin wrote:Stef, how did you guess? It's early days yet but if I do decide to go with the 5VZ FE my 22R EFI will be offered here as a complete motor incl the management. Still no answers on the bellhouising but not in a rush.

Just common sense, 22R's are easy to come by but the EFi part not, sell them as a combo & you get rid of the engine quick quick.

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue May 17, 2011 1:19 pm

Cape Town - Louis Trichardt
It's M$%^#&@ very far apart...
But STEVE you remember me now when you want to part that EFI + Motor

Steve
Why Not keep the 22RE
Were you not happy with the conversion or what is te catch?

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue May 17, 2011 1:57 pm

I'm open to correction here, but IIRC the 5 VZ (3.4 lit.) is a straight bolt onto the SFA bell-housing, but there has to be some work done to the fly-wheel / spigot bearing. Alternately you use the 5 VZ bell-housing and clutch as a straight bolt onto the SFA gearbox.

The 3 VZ (3 lit.) was probably a better option for the SFA ... not as thirsty and not so much strain on the gearbox / diffs.

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:32 pm

I'l be waiting paciantly

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:34 pm

Mud Dog wrote:The 3 VZ (3 lit.) was probably a better option for the SFA ...

Yip, if you can find a rear wheel drive one... remember the 3VZ from the Camry is not the right configuration for rear wheel drive! But the 5VZ's are all the right ones... still in terms of power vs. cost the Lexus V8 is still the best!

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:46 pm

Mr_B wrote:
Mud Dog wrote:The 3 VZ (3 lit.) was probably a better option for the SFA ...
... still in terms of power vs. cost the Lexus V8 is still the best!

I still like Spartan's 2JZ ; Lexus bell housing from the stealers and it's a straight bolt on to SFA gearbox

Looks neater than the V8, in terms of how it fits in the the engine bay...

By no means an expert, get my info here

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Tue May 17, 2011 3:26 pm

Mr_B wrote:You confusing me Steve, the 5VZ was the older 3.4 V6 Prado engine, it's non-VVTi.

Bretton, you are correct. Post should have read '....currently found in old Prado'.

GeorgeJvR wrote:Why Not keep the 22RE
Were you not happy with the conversion or what is te catch?

George, I'm very happy with the way it turned out & no catch whatsoever but in the immortal words of Mr. J Clarkson,

"MORE POWER!!!!"

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue May 17, 2011 3:32 pm

GeorgeJvR wrote:Why Not keep the 22RE
Were you not happy with the conversion or what is te catch?

George, I'm very happy with the way it turned out & no catch whatsoever but in the immortal words of Mr. J Clarkson,

"MORE POWER!!!!"[/quote]

Than i'll be waiting for your call

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Tue May 17, 2011 3:37 pm

conversion man · Post by **conversion man** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:42 pm

There is no {straight bolt on } to the sfa box to the 3.4 v6 I have made one for a guy ones so give me a ring

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:57 pm

Does anyone in Cape Town have a spare SFA gearbox (with bellhousing) to lend me to measure up for a custom bellhousing for a 5VZ FE conversion?

Hoppy tells me that to do this conversion the gearbox needs to be moved forward but I'm thinking of having a flywheel made so as to not have to move the box.

I have my flack jacket on so am ready for the comments.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:05 pm

This will be a brilliant conversion once you're done. The 5VFZE is a brilliant motor!

-F_D

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:11 pm

They're still pricey - around 16K. The other option is the 1MZ FE but would need a lot more engineering to get it in. It's an is all aluminium so will be much lighter too - 6K.

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:37 pm

And so it begins!!

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:22 pm

Lyk mooi, nou begin die werk!

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:00 pm

You telling me!! First job to strip off the intake, plug up some holes & try make sense of all the wiring. Let me know about that sump please Allan.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:13 pm

Drrrrrooooooooool.........!!!!!!!

-F_D

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:42 pm

You making a mess Oom Eric...

Post by **Family_Dog** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:13 pm

But it's worth it! ;D

-F_D

mark watson · Post by **mark watson** » Fri May 11, 2012 8:14 pm

steve is the 3.4 in , did fit the 3l from the camry to a sfa and i would like to know what you have found

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Sat May 12, 2012 9:40 pm

Mark, all done & going strong.

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