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a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
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a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Just a few pics of my baby. ![Big Grin :D:](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Ek sien net stof...geen modder???
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Net oom Kobus!OOOOMS wrote:Ek sien net stof...geen modder???
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Net oom Kobus!OOOOMS wrote:Ek sien net stof...geen modder???
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Dis beter Gert ![Thumbup :thumbup:](./images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif)
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Spray on mud came afterwardsOOOOMS wrote:Ek sien net stof...geen modder???
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
OK,he used a bucket and spayed to get the lookSebata wrote:![]()
Neil play fair
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
So that's where you went so skelmpies, neh? ![Taunt :taunt:](./images/smilies/taunt.gif)
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Now thats why I love you guys, always make me feel at home. Its quite a complicated process to get that spray on mud to stick!
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Hey bud at least u could go playAlien1147 wrote:Now thats why I love you guys, always make me feel at home. Its quite a complicated process to get that spray on mud to stick!![]()
Thanks Sebata for the backup!
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IFS is like a swambo, soft, sexy and expensive!
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
OK honestly where were you
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
When? I was there. Didn't you see me?Sebata wrote:OK honestly where were you![]()
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Jip id did and it was fuuuunnnnnnn!Thunder02 wrote:Hey bud at least u could go playAlien1147 wrote:Now thats why I love you guys, always make me feel at home. Its quite a complicated process to get that spray on mud to stick!![]()
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
lyk na 'n parmantige klein karnallie. ![Thumbup :thumbup:](./images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif)
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Baie danki, hy probeer wees.TheoF wrote:lyk na 'n parmantige klein karnallie.
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Wanneer kry jy nuwe voete?
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Hoe vaar so waentjie op styltes en skerp afdraende? Ek bedoel waar 'n ou low range nodig het...
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Werk nog daar aan. :alvarin:OOOOMS wrote:Wanneer kry jy nuwe voete?
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Hy is goed, jy moet net weet waar sy perke is maar ek het nogi groot probleme gehad ni. Kort beslis lae rat. Dit is a great kar wat mense net baie onderskat.Rebel 4x4 wrote:Hoe vaar so waentjie op styltes en skerp afdraende? Ek bedoel waar 'n ou low range nodig het...
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Lekker foto's.
Daai Terios lyk flippen smart.
Daai Terios lyk flippen smart.
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Lyk of jy die agterpaaie ontdek het...daar is eintlik 'n hele paar laaang maniere om by Tom se bar uit te kom ![Thumbup :thumbup:](./images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif)
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Re: a few pics of my Terios after rust de winter
Baie dankie. Dit vat wel lank om hom klaar te kry maar ek is baie trots op hom.Traveler wrote:Lekker foto's.
Daai Terios lyk flippen smart.
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Ja maar darm het ek n gids gehad.Stef wrote:Lyk of jy die agterpaaie ontdek het...daar is eintlik 'n hele paar laaang maniere om by Tom se bar uit te kom
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