water na brandstof vir petrol & diesel enjins

[Bushwacker]

Besigheids geleentheid, lyk dit goed of nie? :?
http://www.apcsystems.co.za/apc%20document.pdf

• Ons gebruik 90-jaar-oue tegnologie wat al hierdie jare teruggehou was!
• Ons het die tegnologie vereenvoudig en bou APC eenhede vir ALLE voertuie - lig en swaar voertuie!
• Bekostigbaar vir ALLE mense!
• Enorme brandstof besparings op alle voertuie…tot 100% besparings en selfs MEER!
• Maklik om te installeer & te onderhou!
• Werk uitstekend op alle “fuel injection”, petrol of diesel enjins!
• Ou en nuwe voertuie!

[Bosvark]

any body tried this before

[Katools]

Johan, jy moet regtig daai %#$ los wat jy rook?? n Pienk hummer.

[Scorpion]

I think it's a scam. I will justify why in a moment, but I can tell you if it wasn't for Irishman confirming that it works, I wouldn't believe a single word of it. My problems are the following:

1.) The Hype
Typical American hype. It's way overstating the possible benefits, but does not give any form of guarantee. I do understand that every vehicle is different, but surely if the average person gets between 37% and 256% increases in mileage on this system, they should at least offer a 10% guaranteed improvement?
Also if they have over 50 000 vehicles worldwide running on their system, why is there no "testimonials" about somebody having done 5 billion zillion miles with no problems?

2.) Contact Details
Why does he only supply a cell number? Any reputable business should have at least a landline number.

3.) Time period
Why do you first have to pay the R10 000, and then they confirm a date for your training? And then it's only 40 to 60 days later. Surely they should give you a preliminary booking and ask for full payment before final confirmation and at least x days before the training? Anyway, every single seminar/course/training I have attended in my life had a fixed date with payment due 7 to 10 days before the date.
60 days gives mr Ike a long time to get far, far away, if he wants to. :evil:

4.) Basic Business Sense
I am not doubting the technology, but rather the "business opportunity". I am also not an eternal sceptic, but rather have learnt my lesson in life. I run 3 successful businesses and only got here because of risks I've taken, especially since one of these businesses also employs "alternative technology". However each one of my businesses have a proper place of business, with landline numbers, fax numbers and e-mails.

The long or short of it? Stay away... The risk is greater than the possible reward.

[Katools]

If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.

[Bosvark]

wat nou katools - na vandag se gesprek met daai ou in Malmesbury dink ek ook dit is n tipe scam,daai ouens sukkel nou nog om goeie resultate te kry nadat hulle al R30 000.00 rand spandeer het.

[Irishman]

Unfortunately I can't read that article, but I think some smart arse has picked up on the system I have installed, and is trying to make a quick buck There is a pic which shows the gasifiers which look similar to mine. I can tell you how to do it for nothing. The only expense is the gasifiers which if you have been following the other thread cost less than R100
Maybe some one can give me the gist of that article.
Ron.

[BenHur]

Ja and the worse is his claims that the ECU's in cars have AI to figure out what you are doing - come on get real bru.

[CasKru]

Unfortunately I can't read that article, but I think some smart arse has picked up on the system I have installed, and is trying to make a quick buck There is a pic which shows the gasifiers which look similar to mine. I can tell you how to do it for nothing. The only expense is the gasifiers which if you have been following the other thread cost less than R100
Maybe some one can give me the gist of that article.
Ron.

It's a direct translation of this website: http://www.runyourcarwithwater.com/?hop=raptor235

[BenHur]

No Cassie it is not really the same. The SA guy takes it to new levels with all sorts of funnies

[CasKru]

No Cassie it is not really the same. The SA guy takes it to new levels with all sorts of funnies

Sort of the same... same schematic etc.

[Katools]

As jy nie van die petrol bedryf hou kan Ike Niemann jou ook help met n sement besigheid. Ek het hom "ge-google" en daar is hy met APC cement. Net R6800 en jy kan miljoene maak. Dis een vrygewige ou die.

[Bushwacker]

Dit is sy antwoord op my navrae oor sy besigheid

Beste Piet,

My goeie advies aan jou is om nie in 'n ding in te gaan as jy nie regtig wil, of vrede in jou hart daaroor het nie. APC wil in elk geval NIE mense aan boord hê wat skepties is en fout sal soek met ons tegnologie nie, want dit is gewoonlik diesulkes wat altyd in konflik sal wees oor alles...en ek wys nie 'n direkte vinger na jou nie. Ons gee nie om wie aan boord kom as APC agente nie, solank dit mense is met 'n oop kop en mense wat kan sien wat ons sien, en duidelik kan jy nie.
As jy fout met enige ding op aarde wil soek en daarop uit is om dit te kry, wees verseker daarvan...JY SAL FOUT KRY!
Ons gaan onsself nie probeer regverdig nie...ons weet wat ons het en ons weet dat die tegnologie werk.

Ek wens jou alle sterkte toe met jou volgende "venture".

Beste groete,
Ike

[ThysdJ]

amazing....

[Katools]

Dan is hy nog nice ook!!

[Scorpion]

Good old Ike gave you the answer himself: STAY AS FAR AWAY AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE!!!

That should be the deciding factor for anybody who had doubts. He tells you not to even question his technology, because then you will be a trouble maker. He doesn't know how the technology works himself and is out to make quick buck.

CONMAN! comes to mind... :evil:

[Bushwacker]

The Hydrogen from water fret nearly convinced me to go for this "opertunity" 8) 8) 8)

[Scorpion]

Moenie worry nie, Piet. Jy kan met die R10k wat jy gespaar het vir ons elkeen 'n dop koop op die GTG...

[CasKru]

The Hydrogen from water fret nearly convinced me to go for this "opertunity" 8) 8) 8)

It's not that it doesn't work but it is still early days and we don't know the long term effects it has on the engines. It is also so readily available so anybody can make it, why would they then want to buy your "technology"?! m2cw

[ThysdJ]

I came across this article...

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... browns-gas