Hi all,
I've got a question. I've got power steering on an ln60 that is never going to run again. My mate has no power steering, but his steer box isn't power.
Mine is an ssr surf 1986 and he has a hilux dual cab 1986 without torsion suspension so his steer box linkage goes towards the front drivers wheel and mine goes straight down.
At the back of the box on both is 4 bolts. mine attatch the section where the power steering lines go in and his is just a cover plate.
Now for the question.
Can we swap out just this back section (as well as the steering rod) and convert his steering to power, or is he up for a new steering box?
The reservoir, mounts, pipes and pump for mine are all in excellent condition.
I'd rather do a swap as a new steering box for his model will need new pipes and will cost a mint.
Thanks for your advice.
Power Steering questions.
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Re: Power Steering questions.
forgot to mention, his is an ln106.
cheers
cheers
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Re: Power Steering questions.
Hi Brandon. Don't think it will work as a straight swap. His is a "push - pull" steering with a "J" arm while yours is side to side. What he could do is to convert to cross-over steering, then your box will work on his vehicle. Cross-over is actually better because it limits 'bump-steer' as well as eliminates the need for a torque rod which in turn limits articulation. Cross over steering can be done as either 'Hi steer' (tie-rod above the leaf packs) or 'Low steer' with the tie-rod below the leaf packs. Hi steer is probably better IRO the tie-rod being higher and less likely to get damaged in rocky terrain.
There are numerous threads here on the forum than cover these issues, just search "Cross over steering"
There are numerous threads here on the forum than cover these issues, just search "Cross over steering"
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Re: Power Steering questions.
appreciate your input mud dog.
i didn't think it would, but there's no harm in asking.
We're just goint to get a new steering box as we already have the pump, pipes and reservoir.
i didn't think it would, but there's no harm in asking.
We're just goint to get a new steering box as we already have the pump, pipes and reservoir.
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Re: Power Steering questions.
Andy does the cross over steering affect the handling at all?, I have a pump and reservoir and piping left from my DC rebuild as I put the 2.5 td engine but don't have a PS box if I use the box from the IFS as the SFA ones are over priced.
would like to put PS in my S/C hilux with these left over parts
what are the cons of this cross over steering?
would like to put PS in my S/C hilux with these left over parts
what are the cons of this cross over steering?
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Re: Power Steering questions.
No Dean, it doesn't affect the handling negatively, if anything, I would imagine that the steering would be more positive. There are a few guys that have done it because the old SFA steering boxes are so scarce and pricey, and then there are the SAS guys that already have the IFS boxes before the conversion that go the more practical route of X-over. (Speak to Piet "Bushwacker" here on the forum).
There are no cons that I am aware of .... if you have done a motor conversion and you opt for 'Hi-steer' just make sure that there is articulation clearance for the tie-rod at the sump (standard motor / sump won't have a hassle).
Have a look back at some of the threads that deal with it, it's the way to go if you have SFA steering box problems.
There are no cons that I am aware of .... if you have done a motor conversion and you opt for 'Hi-steer' just make sure that there is articulation clearance for the tie-rod at the sump (standard motor / sump won't have a hassle).
Have a look back at some of the threads that deal with it, it's the way to go if you have SFA steering box problems.
When your road comes to an end ...... you need a HILUX!.
Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers ... what you do today, might burn your ass tomorrow.
Don't take life too seriously ..... no-one gets out alive.
It's not about waiting for storms to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.
And be yourself ..... everyone else is taken!
Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers ... what you do today, might burn your ass tomorrow.
Don't take life too seriously ..... no-one gets out alive.
It's not about waiting for storms to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.
And be yourself ..... everyone else is taken!