Preferred replacement engine for sfa 22r engine

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:45 pm

hi guys
I'm a new club member. I joined because i heard that this is the best forum to seek advise.
I understand that the advice on this forum has been tried and tested.

i would like to replace my 2.4 LTD 22R engine with an engine that is more powerful,economical and easy to fit with little or no modifications. I hear people are talking about the 2.8 and 3.0 cresside engines or a 2-jz or 7-mgte or lexus v8. I want to tour alot and im not in favour of a lexus v8 please share your oppinuons

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:56 pm

Dane very welcome on the forum. I will definitely go for the Ford 2.5 WL engine. Very easy to install,very reliabe motor.

mcw · Post by **mcw** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:59 pm

WL25 td engine kit available from Hoppy ion the cape

Martin

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:19 pm

agree WL

4x4BEES · Post by **4x4BEES** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:55 am

Or, if you want to stay loyal to a Toyota engine, one of the guys on the forum is busy with a SFA with a KZT-E engine in.

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Kaspaas · Post by **Kaspaas** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:28 am

If you want to go Diesel - WL 2.5 Ford
If you want to stay Toy loyal & keep it Petrol - 22R EFI / 3RZ

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:33 am

I Second you on the 3RZ
or a KZ TE motor.

Fot a tour vehicle i'll sugest diffrent gear ratios on all three motors; KZ, WL and 3RZ

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:18 pm

The Legend wrote:Dane very welcome on the forum. I will definitely go for the Ford 2.5 WL engine. Very easy to install,very reliabe motor.

I have a WL 2.5 TDi and its AMAZING....
If you don't want to change gear ratios then run 33'' tyres.

I run 120km at 3500rpm with STANDARD gear ratio but I have 33'tyres.....
I have had my SFA up to 160km with out any problems....

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:08 pm

Hi guys
Thanks for the advice. let me start by asking where can I get a EFI for a 22R

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:29 pm

DaneL wrote:Hi guys
Thanks for the advice. let me start by asking where can I get a EFI for a 22R

You are looking for chicken teeth

raider · Post by **raider** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:53 pm

Or look at the Isuzu 4jb1t 2.8 diesel. Very reliable motor and lighter on diesel than the Mazda WL. Also now that the Chinese use the exact motor in the JMC bakkies spares should be easy to come by for a long time.

zoeper · Post by **zoeper** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:33 pm

I am also considering the swap from 22r to Diesel. (WL seems to be the obvious choice)
What would a realistic cost estimate be for 1. Having it done by a pro, and 2. in part form if I do the install myself?
Is 33" tyres realistic on a SFA to negate the change of gear ratios, or would that open a new can of worms in the form of undue wear and tear in other departments? Would A body lift be needed to accommodate the larger tyres?
I am currently on 31x10.5x15's but would need new tyres soon anyways.
Would economy be better on the WL compared to the 22R? I seem to remember my 2.5 XLT Supercab not being the king of frugal either...

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:10 am

I would stick to the 22R...(Ok I put an EFi system on mine) with the conqueror trailer I'm getting 7km/l...and I'm going 100-120km/h. Some okes are talking 8km/l on D4D's with similar trailers.

Lexus is very nice but tricky sometimes and way too much power for the drive train, 7M too old already IMO and 3RZ bit expensive for what you get, same with KZTE. Question is how much you want to spend on that power and slightly better consumption?

If I had to change, I'd go for the V6 4.0 or the Prado motor, but least effort is the WL from what I've heard although I would not want to start mixing brands (that's just me)

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:18 pm

Still a fan of the 7mge. Strong but not to strong to break stuff

Post by **Haboob** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:43 am

Welcome Dane...

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:13 am

Question is: What do you want to do with your truck and how often?

If it is an occasional(weekend) toy, no engine swop will be financially justifyable. Have a bit of patience, pay the fuel(which will be way less than an engine conversion) and enjoy your truck!

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:35 pm

Hi guys I'm looking for a 2.5wl motor and conversion kit anybody selling

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:53 pm

Contact Allan Venter, aka Hoppy.

He can help with the kit and all the info you will need.

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:47 pm

Thanks again for the advice I was wondering does anybody have a original carbon and vacuum chamber for the 22r?

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:20 pm

Does anybody body have Allen venter a.k.a hoppy contact details for me please

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:18 pm

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Willem van Schalkwyk · Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:31 pm

Welcome!!
How much money do you want to spend?
4L v6 prado or FJ motor.

optirite · Post by **optirite** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:15 pm

3UZ-VVTi.
Thank me later.

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:52 pm

I'm selling my 1996 sfa 2.4Ltd everything mechanical has be done with all original parts R120 000

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:05 pm

So what happened...did you just fix or have you done a conversion? Why sell?

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:17 am

LTD ?? Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK the LTD edition was available only in 1998.

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:28 am

Mud Dog wrote:LTD ?? Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK the LTD edition was available only in 1998.

Indeed the case...only 400 made.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:01 am

Only 400? I thought that it would have been considerably more than that. How sure are you of that figure, Stef?

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:02 am

Sorry it's a 1986 model and we fixed everything to make sure it won't give any problems when we go and tour with it but now I'm look at a 80 series cruiser

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:53 pm

Mud Dog wrote:Only 400? I thought that it would have been considerably more than that. How sure are you of that figure, Stef?

Is what I have been told...could not verify it anywhere...

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:40 pm

hi guys I'm look for a bonnet and left front fender for a 80series land cruise station waggon GX? And are there any club events happening soon

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:11 pm

Hi guys is it wl or wl-t

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:13 pm

Hi guys is it a wl or a wl-t ford engine

DaneL · Post by **DaneL** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:16 pm

Hi guys are you talking about a wl or a wl-t engine

Kaspaas · Post by **Kaspaas** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:06 am

Dane,

I am to be corrected, but according to me it would be the Turbo version of the WL.

GRWLR ZN · Post by **GRWLR ZN** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:36 pm

optirite wrote:3UZ-VVTi.
Thank me later.

Yep,
Mine is 1UZ non vvti and its still worth it...
Nice thing about the uz's are that they are very reliable, and not as hectic on fuel as one would expect.
If your setup is right it's all good...

selwyn schaefer · Post by **selwyn schaefer** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:49 am

Hi all. Would any of you recommend a different engine swap for the 22R now that it is 2023. Has anything new come on the market that would be a better conversion? This was a 2016 post. Or would you stick to your original recommendations?

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:31 pm

Whatever you do stick with a Toyota engine. 7M motors are still bullet proof as are the 1uz. Some guys have put the kzte in as well. Lots of info here on installation.

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:27 pm

selwyn schaefer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:49 am Hi all. Would any of you recommend a different engine swap for the 22R now that it is 2023. Has anything new come on the market that would be a better conversion? This was a 2016 post. Or would you stick to your original recommendations?

I'd say stick with the 22R, gasflow the head, add a branch and freeflow and you can see around 110-120kw. Will still give around 6-7km/l but way more power.

Look at https://lcengineering.com/top-5-22r-re- ... -upgrades/

Steff · Post by **Steff** » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:09 pm

I would say the 4.0 V6 Hilux motor, but with the whole drive train...and therein lies the challenge.
Otherwise keep the Txfer case and maybe change the local SFA diff for SFA imports, one could fit chromoly shafts in the imports.

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:15 pm

Steff wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:09 pm I would say the 4.0 V6 Hilux motor, but with the whole drive train...and therein lies the challenge.
Otherwise keep the Txfer case and maybe change the local SFA diff for SFA imports, one could fit chromoly shafts in the imports.

Jaaaaaa...but before you see, you have spent north of R100k and still have a 30 year old vehicle. And then there might be issues down the line with too much power

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:32 am

That would be an expensive build for sure. Diffs and gearbox would be a problem.

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:20 pm

Gunta wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:32 am That would be an expensive build for sure. Diffs and gearbox would be a problem.

Hallo to our Yankee member!

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:21 pm

Hey what’s up Thabo. Long time