Best place to take a sfa for repairs
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Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Hi all
I have a sfa with a wl conversation in. The motor is great. The problem I am having is the clutch.
First time I installed a standard 2.7 clutch with the wl presure plate from the local midas. After about 8000km clutch shattered to pieces.
Second time round replaced with a special build clutch and presure plate from formula friction in edenvale. Had the flywheel skeemed aswell. After about 15000km clutch went again. After opening it up I noticed that the fork was to short and that it was pressing the thrust bearing skew which coused the bearing to seize which grinded thru the presure plate.
Third time in again got everything specially build and had them source me a better bearing. New fork installed which looked perfect. 500km later something went wrong again. On my way back from work the clutch peddle started vibrating with a knocking sound in sequence with the peddle thumping. Continued my journey home without pressing the clutch peddle.
Got home and noticed the peddle is extremely hard and now clutch at all.
Now I gave up and in need of a expert to help. Who can i contact to help. There must be something i keep on over looking as I need to find the problem.
I have a sfa with a wl conversation in. The motor is great. The problem I am having is the clutch.
First time I installed a standard 2.7 clutch with the wl presure plate from the local midas. After about 8000km clutch shattered to pieces.
Second time round replaced with a special build clutch and presure plate from formula friction in edenvale. Had the flywheel skeemed aswell. After about 15000km clutch went again. After opening it up I noticed that the fork was to short and that it was pressing the thrust bearing skew which coused the bearing to seize which grinded thru the presure plate.
Third time in again got everything specially build and had them source me a better bearing. New fork installed which looked perfect. 500km later something went wrong again. On my way back from work the clutch peddle started vibrating with a knocking sound in sequence with the peddle thumping. Continued my journey home without pressing the clutch peddle.
Got home and noticed the peddle is extremely hard and now clutch at all.
Now I gave up and in need of a expert to help. Who can i contact to help. There must be something i keep on over looking as I need to find the problem.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Have you checked your master and slave cylinders? Are they still in good nick?
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
With the last raplacement the master and slave was replaced. Replace the line between the two as well.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
The pilot bearing ok in the crank?
Is the adaptor plate scew? If its out scew by 2mm the clutch wont last.
Is the adaptor plate scew? If its out scew by 2mm the clutch wont last.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Not sure about the pilot bearing, but i had the bellhousing at an engineering shop to have it machine straight.
I'm not a expert and would like to have someone with the expertise to have a look what is wrong and fix it.
I'm not a expert and would like to have someone with the expertise to have a look what is wrong and fix it.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Nathan do you have photos of the Bellhousing, fork etc.?
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Unfortunately not. I can take some photos from the outside tonight.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
I like to help. Lets see the setup.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
I'll load some photos tonight. Do you perhaps have a number i can contact you on?
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Not like these photos do me any justice, but i tried.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Thanks
By the looks of it the clutch slave cylinder sits screw on the bellhousing. This can break the fork over a long time.
Then the bellhousing have to be checked, I might be wrong but looks if it thicker at the top than at the bottom, might be the photo.
Let me show you on my pic. A is wider than B.
If above will be the case your clutch wont last, this breaks the pilot bearing in time and this shortly after that break the input shaft of the gearbox.
The fork is fine.
By the looks of it the clutch slave cylinder sits screw on the bellhousing. This can break the fork over a long time.
Then the bellhousing have to be checked, I might be wrong but looks if it thicker at the top than at the bottom, might be the photo.
Let me show you on my pic. A is wider than B.
If above will be the case your clutch wont last, this breaks the pilot bearing in time and this shortly after that break the input shaft of the gearbox.
The fork is fine.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
So van clutches gepraat...watter plekke in Pta het Sachs kits vir SFA in voorraad ? En die regte goed...Gwagen sukkel bietjie met die 96-98 modelle lyk dit my, moes 3 keer bestel net om die regte remskoene te kry..
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Nathan did you manage?
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Guys we looking for a Wl25 bellhousing to Hilux Sfa gearbox for Nathan. Phoned Gilo and they don't make those. Or is it another one they use.
Inputs please.
Inputs please.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Die naweek goed ondersoek gedoen op die samestelling op die conversion. Ek mooi die bellhousing gemeet, die was mooi reguit maar het iets gehad wat gepla het.
Aan die linkerkant was daar 'n lang dun kraak. Sou nie die gesien het as ek dit nie skoongemaak het nie. Toe haal die boks uit. Wel toe die boks loskom van die crossmember is dit 'n kraak wat orals rondom die housing gaan. Ook was daar nie 'n pilot bearing in nie, of dit get gebreek sal nog die flywheel moet afkry. Die release bearing is gebreek ook die gearbox guide(bearing retainer).
Ek sal nog kyk na die vingers op die pressure plaat. Ai was nie lekker om die te kry nie. Klaar 'n Bellhousing gekry met die hulp van Nathan.
Aan die linkerkant was daar 'n lang dun kraak. Sou nie die gesien het as ek dit nie skoongemaak het nie. Toe haal die boks uit. Wel toe die boks loskom van die crossmember is dit 'n kraak wat orals rondom die housing gaan. Ook was daar nie 'n pilot bearing in nie, of dit get gebreek sal nog die flywheel moet afkry. Die release bearing is gebreek ook die gearbox guide(bearing retainer).
Ek sal nog kyk na die vingers op die pressure plaat. Ai was nie lekker om die te kry nie. Klaar 'n Bellhousing gekry met die hulp van Nathan.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Nathan,Jou Hi-Lux is nou in goeie hande . Wees verseker hy sal reg wees as Louis met hom klaar is.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
We going to go replace the input shaft and seal too. Bearing cage broke too.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
I had to replace parts due to faulty pilot bearing the gearbox guy says it is critical.
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Re: Best place to take a sfa for repairs
Replaced the broken parts in the Gearbox.
Input shaft from Toyota really expensive, so we decide to use and modify it a bit to re use it. Some parts were engineered to suit.
This will be Input shaft bearing, Some minor keys on 3rd gear Syncro. Snap rings and 5th gear Nut. The nut is the longest to get from Toyota, they did not know it excisted.
Some snags on getting the right pressure plate for the new bellhousing but Nathan helped with that one.
I expain a bit more when the Box go in over this weekend.
Input shaft from Toyota really expensive, so we decide to use and modify it a bit to re use it. Some parts were engineered to suit.
This will be Input shaft bearing, Some minor keys on 3rd gear Syncro. Snap rings and 5th gear Nut. The nut is the longest to get from Toyota, they did not know it excisted.
Some snags on getting the right pressure plate for the new bellhousing but Nathan helped with that one.
I expain a bit more when the Box go in over this weekend.