to buy or not to buy?

[ecotech]

i am in the process of selling my toyota hilux 4x2 bouble cab and buying a mitsh colt rodeo 2.8dti 4x4. what`s the thoughts and what other suggestions would i look at?

i need the help blerri fast

[3RZ]

My honest opinion - stay away (sorry I don't want to rain on your parade but that is my honest opinion), they have overheating problems, the rear diflock has an inherant problem with the actuator of I recall correctly. Go and search on the http://www.4x4community.co.za site. All of the issues have been discussed there in detail.

[3RZ]

Read and decide for yourself, in the end it is still your money and your choice.

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... t+problems

[ToyX4]

You'll be better off buying a Land Rover

[ecotech]

ok, lets say i scrap the colt idea what do you suggest?

finansaily i can not afford a cruiser or even a 30 d4d. ford? mazda? other toyota?

[ThysdJ]

ok, lets say i scrap the colt idea what do you suggest?

I suggest you sit back and have a cup of coffee and thank your lucky stars you didnt make the biggest mistake of your life.

As was said before, if you have to stay with a diesel, and you dont want to look at another KZTE? then look at the Ford/Mazda 2.5 D. They are pretty solid vehicles.

[JohanM]

ok, lets say i scrap the colt idea what do you suggest?

Martin,

Rather lets get your KZTE sorted out so you can at least enjoy the vehicle as it is....

[ToyX4]

ok, lets say i scrap the colt idea what do you suggest?

Martin,

Rather lets get your KZTE sorted out so you can at least enjoy the vehicle as it is....

If I had to guess, I'd say Martin's mind is made up on selling the Hilux.

And that is not a bad thing. This is the perfect excuse to buy a 4x4

If you want to stay diesel, look at the 2.5 Ford/Mazda.
I should think another KZ-TE is out of the question??

How about a 2.7 Hilux? Bulletproof motor and performance not too shabby 8)

There are bargains out there, so do your homework - But Stay Away From The Colt

[Bartho]

Martin,

Maybe I missed some of the info from the previous posts but why not rather state why you want to sell your current vehicle, its shortcomings and what your requirements is ie where do you want to go, type of terrain, family size, duration of trips, towing, how much you want to spend on accessories, how long you want to keep the new vehicle for, etc....

[BenHur]

His KZ is performing poorly but I still think the fact that he has a different diff in, with too tall a ratio for his set up is the cause of that problem, and 2nd of all it is only a 2x4 and I think even though Martin would not admit it out load he now realised the benefit of 4x4 over 2x4 off road

[Bartho]

So if it is purely offroad ability then the answer is simple. Go from the 4x2 to a 4x4 and stick with a Hilux.

Learn from other people's mistakes

[Family_Dog]

Martin,

The Ford/Mazda 2.5TD engine has also had plenty of issues, do a search in the Community Forum.

There are a few SFA Hilux's being offered for sale here, consider one of these if reliability and inexpensive maintenance is a consideration. Look at the one Luke Strugnell is offering, might be others but I have just read his 'for sale' post. Not as comfortable as your KZTE, but certainly more capable. My preference is to always avoid the ones with engine conversions though, stick to either the 2.2 4Y or the 2.4 22R petrol engines. Speak to BenHur about an EFI conversion.


If it helps to put your mind at ease, I have both the vehicles in my signature below and I look for any excuse to rather drive Bulldog, instead of White Fang. I simply enjoy it more! Not a racing car, but i do manage to save a lot on traffic fines


-F_D

[JohanM]

If it helps to put your mind at ease, I have both the vehicles in my signature below and I look for any excuse to rather drive Bulldog, instead of White Fang. I simply enjoy it more! Not a racing car, but i do manage to save a lot on traffic fines

-F_D

Eric, I agree with you on being more capable!!! Sunday's trail in groenkloof was really just a "nice breakfast" run for my SFA!!!! I also agree on enjoying it more, than others, and decided against buying another car next year, just because I have a SFA EFI.........

[lyndonl]

The colt 2.8 TD also had major turbo issues from about 80000km up from what I have heard.

Nissan Hardbody maybe?

Re: the Ford and Mazda 2.5TD I know of at least 4 people who have had constant issues with theirs from the Aircon unit to the injectors

[King Rat]

Gentlemen, I'm not a fan but I think stick with Toyota, excluding the new ones which has a lot of issues themselves. The Ford/Mazda 2.5TD is a good alternative because those engines new is as expensive as a re-done 4Y

[JohanM]

Nissan Hardbody maybe?

Maybe the V6 engine!! Just not the 2.7 td Engine or 3.2 D as they are real donkeys. The 3.0 TD 16V is not a bad option but htey tend to have a bit of turbo lag in the lower rpm that does hamper off road ability a lot. :?

[Dadz Toy BFI]

Martin,

The Ford/Mazda 2.5TD engine has also had plenty of issues, do a search in the Community Forum.

-F_D

Jeepers Eric :WTH:

Good job you don't live down here you would have a veritable Lynch Squad at your Door for such a claim :roll: :roll:

Great Post Eric- just straight no-nonsence advice Oom Eric Style

[Family_Dog]

I helped a Community Forum member find a brand new 2.5TD engine here in Klerksburry at a far lower cost than he was able to get in Gautenland, even taking into consideration the fact they had to fetch his blown Fordjie on a low-bed trailer. Since then I followed the stories on the Comm-Forum, and quite a few guys suffered from the same issue, blown heads.

Refer the following posts:

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... hp?t=14366

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... hp?t=11382

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... hp?t=11010

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... hp?t=11374


There might be others, but those probably provide enough insight.



The newer models will have obviously sorted that problem out though, can't remember what model he drove.


-F_D

[ecotech]

hey stop the bus. i spoke to colt owners today and the statement is clear...... STAY AWAY!!!!!!
wel geuss what i am gona do. stay away. they are more thirsty then the kzte and slower then the kzte.

option 2 was n ford or mazda 2500 intercooled. well spoke to my friend at ford and guess what he said.
DONT, DONT and DONT!!!!

wel it leaves me ultimatly with 1 sollution. spend the R40k and convert my current 4x2 to 4x4. well thats the problem. i dont have the bucks and dont think i will have for the next 50 years. my mind is made up and to please all of you i am gona stick with hitler. he might be slow but i can proudly say i have gone were ford, mazda, colt etc 4x2`s couldnt go and louis from 4x4 mega world is my witness as i proved on sunday at protea.

are there any good samarithans out there thats willing to assist me in the convertion and be able to help. i dont need charity, i will pay but i cant fork out all the money in one go.

thanks is all i can say. i should have listened to you all from day 1