diy Bead lock rims

Bushwacker · Post by **Bushwacker** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:39 pm

http://workbench.rockymountainextreme.c ... lock-tech/
http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/topi ... C_ID=45551
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/beadlocks/index.html

Big D · Post by **Big D** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:19 am

I like it. I like it alot.

Where are we going to get our hands on those rings? Anyone with a cnc plasma machine at work

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:36 am

You'd also need access to a lathe or similar equipment to place the base ring better than by eye / feel. Would have to re-ballance after welding as well. Those rings are heavy, and any displacement of weight would probably affect wheelballance beyond the effectiveness of normal ballancing weights

. I think you would'nt be able to get past 20 kph without some serious vibrations. The idea is cool, but should be done properly ..... M2CW.

Okkie Van Wyk · Post by **Okkie Van Wyk** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:07 am

Now please enlighten me and forgive my stupidity

Why just on the front side of the rim, what prevents the rear side from de-beading?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:15 am

I also though about that Okkie... In a nutshell.. The thing is that the inside bead dont experience the same amount of stress that the outside bead does. Inertia when cornering puts more stress on the outside bead of the outside wheel than on the inside bead of the inside wheel. Same with cambers.

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:36 am

Because of the rim design, it can lose some air (very unlikely), but it can't climb off the rim on the inside.

I had a set made & fitted to my hilux about 4 years ago, it was about R1000.00 per rim and worth every cent.(it looks and works better than aloys)

You can now go down to 0.2 bar on extreme sand & mud obstacles.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:42 am

Ons sal maar so 'n ou stelletjie moet maak Allan of wat se jy?

Veral as ek wil 35"s gaan...

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:51 am

35's is ou nuus, 37's!

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:56 am

Goed, dan maak ons so..

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:00 am

Dan's die gearing vir die 16 valve ook reg

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:01 am

Allan is that the set of beadlockers on Craig's lux?

B

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:04 am

Yes, and they are still perfect.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:06 am

nee maar sien, dan werk dinge net mooi reg uit...

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:08 am

here's a pic of them...

that's one lekker bakkie!

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:14 am

and a closeup...

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:19 pm

I gave them a call, they do still make them, i'm waiting for the new price.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:53 pm

So if one does get a puncture, or wants to remove a tyre, you have 10 million bolts to loosen? Is there a bead fitted on the outer rim, but inside the tyre as well, i.e. on both sides of the tyre casing? This doggie has only seen these things on massive trucks.

-F_D

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:35 pm

You have to loosen all the bolts, but then you can remove the tyre with the wheel bolted to the car!

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:12 pm

Jislaaik ek haal sommer my mags af en doen dit, dit lyk flippen awesome!

Bushwacker · Post by **Bushwacker** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:30 am

As jy alloy's op het sal dit nie werk nie, tensy jy aluminium ringe kan kry,net die binnestes tenminste, dan weet ek ook nie of dit sterk genoeg gaan wees nie. Hierdie ding het ook in my kop kom vashaak

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:42 am

Gaan nie werk op alloys nie, die alloy is nie sterk genoeg daarvoor nie, en om die regte sterkte te kry sal jou binneste ring baie dik moet wees. Hierdie home made bead-lockers is vir meer serious rock crawlers wat selde langpad ry en dan net teen lae spoed. Andersins moet dit eerder maar professioneel laat doen, soos Andy voorgestel het, om alles mooi ge-center en gebalanseer te kry. Not recommended for Hi-Speed-Lux owners...

It does look the part though..

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:11 am

Ek het myne oor 200km/h getoets,hulle was perfek in balans.

Die regte manier is om die "flange" vas te sweis en dan reguit te sny op die draaibank.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:46 am

Hoppy wrote:Ek het myne oor 200km/h getoets,hulle was perfek in balans.

Die regte manier is om die "flange" vas te sweis en dan reguit te sny op die draaibank.

Then of course you must also cut the outer flange accordingly and pop mark them for position so that they are fitted to the correct rim and position on that rim. Better to have it done correctly positioned on a lathe with a clock guage and then ballanced from the start, I would think.

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:36 pm

exactly, all the flanges are assembled, marked an then machined true

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:43 pm

Thats the only way to make sure it won't wobble...

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:16 am

Allan, will you consider doing a set of rims for me with lockers on them??

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:48 am

He just had a set made for his Half-Loaf Hilux... they look awesome..

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:26 am

That half loaf is coming on nicely... soon to be introduced to the forum...

conversion man · Post by **conversion man** » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:20 am

Het nou net met Lionel van L A SPORT gepraat en gaan nou nou daar draai om bietjie inligting tekry (hy ken al die soort goed ) dan gaan ek n ally rim so maak .Sal n foto oplaai

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:19 pm

Hoe beplan hulle om so ring vas te weld op 'n alloy??

Andersins sit hulle dalk vir jou 'n stel Mickey Thompson rims op wat slegs kosmetiese ringe op het.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:51 pm

Alloy can be welded without too much hassle given the right equipment and experience. The guys that do rim repairs weld these things all the time. It's just not a DIY project since the weld will have to be airtight and the filler not too hard that it cracks away under stress.

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:19 am

The same people that makes the steel ones tried an aluminium set, they are having problems with cracks and threads pulling out.

I would stick with the steel ones, their new design is much lighter

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:18 am

Mud Dog wrote:Alloy can be welded without too much hassle given the right equipment and experience. The guys that do rim repairs weld these things all the time. It's just not a DIY project since the weld will have to be airtight and the filler not too hard that it cracks away under stress.

They do, but are you going to weld another aluminium ring to it? Or weld a conventional steel ring to it??

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:56 am

It would have to be a similar alloy, otherwise there will be cracking. AFAIK welding alu to steel is not possible or highly specialised.

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:00 am

Mud Dog wrote:It would have to be a similar alloy, otherwise there will be cracking. AFAIK welding alu to steel is not possible or highly specialised.

I also do not think it is possible either.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:05 am

Getting ferrous and non-ferrous metals to 'emulsify' is difficult enough .... some work easier than others like producing brass for example, but alu is one of the most difficult ones to work with.

96-Luxi 4x4 · Post by **96-Luxi 4x4** » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:14 pm

Hi Guys

its an old thread, but I also want some steel bead Lock rims. I'm in JHB?

Drive Luxi on and off road, so it must be able to handle higher speeds as well without balancing issues. Who can make some? I can supply 5 steel rims, new or used. Looks very nice.

For me its more about the looks that the functionallity of it. Luxu runs fine on romal rims.

please let me know who can assist please.

Thanks. Naas

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:56 pm

Yeah, it can look mean, but if it's not for functionality, I would personally leave them be. Balancing is always an issue at speed unless they're factory bead-locks or have been properly centred and balanced on a lathe (engineering works). The other thing about bead locks is that they always collect water / dog pee / debris in the lip of the rim when any of those are present while parked .... with welded DIY steel rims this poses an issue with potential rust. Furthermore, you would be adding to the unsprung weight which negatively affects ride comfort and roadholding on bumpy surfaces .... not dramatically, but still has an influence.

96-Luxi 4x4 · Post by **96-Luxi 4x4** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:34 pm

Lol, guess thats all true, but would be nice though. Only way out is to buy the real mcoy, or leave my Luxi as is.