Bande - Mud vs All Terrain

louis fourie · Post by **louis fourie** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:57 pm

Vergeet van enige logika, i.e 50% off-road ens. Ek is nie bekommerd indien my Lux 'n bietjie swaarder is op diesel nie, en 'n bietjie geraas is ook nie 'n probleem nie.

Hoeveel km kan 'n mens verwag met BF's Mud Terrain

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hoeveel met All Terrains?????

bosjakkals · Post by **bosjakkals** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:04 pm

Albei gee lekker kilos maar as jy wil vinnig ry op die teer gaan eerder vir die AT, my swaer het al drie 33" Muddys verloor en elke keer body skade gehaad. Hyt n 99 Raider met n Lexus in en hy gebruik die poeier.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:06 pm

Louis as jy gereeld bande 'rotate' en alignment doen behoort jy so tussen 100k en 120k op die BF All terrains te kry. Ek het al van ouens gehoor wat do 140k gekry het. In VSA waarborg hulle die AT vir 100K.

BF muds, seker so 70 - 80k km

Hi-Hilux · Post by **Hi-Hilux** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:15 pm

Ek gaan die topic dophou want ek oorweeg om my mts te ruil of verkoop vir ats. Ek is seker daarvan my 4y het met sy glade maar tyres vinniger gery op di lang pad en beter kilos gekry en baie minder geraas. En dalk verbeel ek my maar die ats vertoon breer...maar die mts lyk mean.

bosjakkals · Post by **bosjakkals** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:18 pm

n Growe en breer loopvlak maak n groter oppervlak van voor wat meer wind weerstand bied, dus is hulle swaarder op sous

louis fourie · Post by **louis fourie** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:21 pm

Ek hou van die muds. Vir die kere wat 'n mens dit nodig het dink ek dit is die moeite werd. Hierdie keer gaan ek vir BF's. My Duelers gaan dalk 60k maak as ek gelukkig is

bosjakkals · Post by **bosjakkals** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:24 pm

My Duelers gaan dalk 60k maak as ek gelukkig is

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Jy's lucky, ek het 14500 kilos op my werk 2.5 D4D gekry

Hi-Hilux · Post by **Hi-Hilux** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:26 pm

Die vorige tyres was die selfde size as di mts. Ek dink daai chuncks van die mt skep te veel wind. Die mts klou baie lekker op ons grond paaie...

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:42 pm

Simple answer ...... Traction is everything ..... where do you want it, (and what are you willing to compromise to get it).

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:46 pm

Muds lyk beslis 'the part'

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:15 am

Mud Dog wrote:Simple answer ...... Traction is everything ..... where do you want it, (and what are you willing to compromise to get it).

Amen.....

En onthou.... hoe meer kilos 'n band jou gee hoe harder die compound en hoe minder die grip op droë en nat paaie. Als goed en wel in day to day driving maar wat van daai noodgeval waar 'n trok 'n U-Turn oor die pad maak voor jou en jy 'n noodstop moet doen. Wat wil jy dan hê... bande wat die langste hou of bande met die beste grip?

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:36 am

CasKru wrote:Als goed en wel in day to day driving maar wat van daai noodgeval waar 'n trok 'n U-Turn oor die pad maak voor jou en jy 'n noodstop moet doen. Wat wil jy dan hê... bande wat die langste hou of bande met die beste grip?

Amen Cassie.

Wat is jou antwoord dan aan "Mammie" wanneer jy nie kon stop nie en jy laai vir "Jnr" deur die windskerm af??

Het twee stelle D694's al gehad, en beide het meer as 80,000km gegee, en Goodyear Wrangler AT/SA (NOT RT/SA) het my so 55,000km gegee.

Ek dink as jy iets deur jou g@t trek hou dit gewoonlik nie eintlik lank nie.

Hi-Hilux · Post by **Hi-Hilux** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:44 am

Dit maak alles sin behalwe vir die noodstop situasie...nie in n SFA nie, hulle was so besig om die ultimate 4x4 te design dat hulle van die brieke vergeet hel lol

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:48 am

Hi-Hilux wrote:Dit maak alles sin behalwe vir die noodstop situasie...nie in n SFA nie, hulle was so besig om die ultimate 4x4 te design dat hulle van die brieke vergeet hel lol

dis 'n probleem

Riceburner · Post by **Riceburner** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:08 am

I cant get past the idea of waisting money on all terrains.

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:18 am

Hi-Hilux wrote:Dit maak alles sin behalwe vir die noodstop situasie...nie in n SFA nie, hulle was so besig om die ultimate 4x4 te design dat hulle van die brieke vergeet hel lol

Al hoewel... toe die bakkie nuut was was hulle brieke fine.

Ek dink as mens die master cylinder en al die slave cylinders oor doen dan gaan mens baie verbaas wees hoe goed die brieke weer perform

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:54 am

Mud Dog wrote:Simple answer ...... Traction is everything ..... where do you want it, (and what are you willing to compromise to get it).

yep that about sums it up!!

will also be following this thread, as I have a few decisions to make in the new future about tyres!!

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:00 am

SFA kan nie pletterstoppe doen nie, hulle het nie brieke nie. MAAR met 33" muds op het hulle ABS want jy kry nie sommer daai groot tyres gelock nie... hulle howl soos 'n wolf na die vol maan, maar hulle lock nie ...

Muds is cool, punt klaar...

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:33 am

I am with you on this Thys, my grip on the road is far better with my muds on that AT's and I have both.

Hi-Hilux · Post by **Hi-Hilux** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:49 am

ThysdJ wrote:SFA kan nie pletterstoppe doen nie, hulle het nie brieke nie. MAAR met 33" muds op het hulle ABS want jy kry nie sommer daai groot tyres gelock nie... hulle howl soos 'n wolf na die vol maan, maar hulle lock nie ...

Muds is cool, punt klaar...

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:34 pm

got muds, rotate when service, on 40 000km and still looking good

rebuilder · Post by **rebuilder** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:28 am

Ive got 265/16" muds on and it grips, lasts, and stop just fine on standard braking system. Its effective and looks good. What more do you need?

yotaman · Post by **yotaman** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:03 am

I believe - Pro comp (and maybe others) sells a tyre thats sort of, "in between" a MT and an AT - any comments/experience?

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:11 pm

Muds, on a wettish road is an absolute nightmare, BFs, Bridgestone, experienced it again yesterday when arriving sliding at slow speed(50km/h) at a stop street....

Ain't fun.... :roll:

Post by **Family_Dog** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:53 pm

I haven't noticed any problems with Cooper STT mud tyres on a wet road... but then we don't get that much rain here. Today was the exception, however. It hosed!

-F_D

legend35 · Post by **legend35** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:29 am

OOOOMS wrote:Muds, on a wettish road is an absolute nightmare, BFs, Bridgestone, experienced it again yesterday when arriving sliding at slow speed(50km/h) at a stop street....

Ain't fun.... :roll:

Mark ,with all that weight you driving around,no tyre will stop your van

Just joking

Did all your wheel lock?If only at the back,you will have to reset your rear brakes.When you brake,all the weight tranfers to the front and there will be no tracktion on the rear tyres.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:21 am

legend35 wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:Muds, on a wettish road is an absolute nightmare, BFs, Bridgestone, experienced it again yesterday when arriving sliding at slow speed(50km/h) at a stop street....

Ain't fun.... :roll:
Mark ,with all that weight you driving around,no tyre will stop your van Just joking
Did all your wheel lock?If only at the back,you will have to reset your rear brakes.When you brake,all the weight tranfers to the front and there will be no tracktion on the rear tyres.

Yip, front wheels locked. Maybe an adjustment is due.... :wink2: Where on the WRand is a good place?

Post by **CasKru** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:41 am

The first thing I do when I put a new set of tyres that is not exactly the same as the ones I had on, I test them. I give them their 400km or so run in period and then I find a nice quite road and do a few emergency stops trying not to lock them up. I do the same test again once the roads are wet. This way I know more or less what the limits of traction on the tyres are.

I must add that I am impressed with the Maxxis grip in the wet.

Rollercoaster639 · Post by **Rollercoaster639** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:57 am

You have to fit at least one set of muds...

Hi-Hilux · Post by **Hi-Hilux** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:29 am

Ja my mt's het ook nie grip as die pad nat is nie en mens raak soms benoud, maar dan moet ek ook by se, dis ook al waneer ek die ou 4ykie om n draai kan laat gly en oonh wee dis tog te lekker

Post by **CasKru** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:07 pm

I won't change my muds for anything (okay maybe a new set of muds) :)

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:30 am

In the words of one of our fellow forum members:

Muds.... glorious muds...

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:11 pm

Helllllll YheeeAAAA!!

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:14 pm

ThysdJ wrote:In the words of one of our fellow forum members:

Muds.... glorious muds...

Thys, I think the quote was "Mud - Glorious Mud" ........ and he might have been referring to me!

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:17 pm

You're right Andreas, but I applied some artistic license to it...

The colour was right though...

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:19 pm

Mud Dog wrote:
ThysdJ wrote:In the words of one of our fellow forum members:

Muds.... glorious muds...

Thys, I think the quote was "Mud - Glorious Mud" ........ and he might have been referring to me!

Natuurlik.....hoe dan anners!!

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