Essex v6 3.0

wahand · Post by **wahand** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:23 pm

Ek sukkel met my ford v6 engine - het iemand dalk 'n manual - ek kry niks op die internet nie asseblief.

519franco · Post by **519franco** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:20 pm

What is wrong.

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:57 am

Check the oil!!!!!

Stubs · Post by **Stubs** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:57 am

stevo you so funny!!!

I have a manual, send me your email dress and I can forward on.....

You will find no help on this forum but a select few who have the Ford V6...because everyone else has no problems with their V8 lexus's, 4Y, 22R's,

......

its a great engine....

96-Luxi 4x4 · Post by **96-Luxi 4x4** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:12 pm

Hi Guys

Seems like I have some of the Ford V6 Guyes here. In my other Hilux, my 84 stout single cab 4x4 I have a ford V6, but think it needs some attention. It struggles a bit to start, smokes a bit, and has a few oil leaks.

Should I pull the motor and overhaul it (what would the cost be +-), or do i go with the normal 1UZ V8 on the 5 speed manual.

I think the Ford is enough power, but just thinking of cost and reliability, and also to keep everything Toyota

Thanks

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:43 pm

96-Luxi 4x4 wrote:Hi Guys

Seems like I have some of the Ford V6 Guyes here. In my other Hilux, my 84 stout single cab 4x4 I have a ford V6, but think it needs some attention. It struggles a bit to start, smokes a bit, and has a few oil leaks.

Should I pull the motor and overhaul it (what would the cost be +-), or do i go with the normal 1UZ V8 on the 5 speed manual.

I think the Ford is enough power, but just thinking of cost and reliability, and also to keep everything Toyota

Thanks

You know what they say "if it doesn't leak oil it needs filling up"

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:48 pm

Like Land Rover, Ford is now selling oil in different colours so you can match it to your paving.

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:51 pm

zepplin wrote:Like Land Rover, Ford is now selling oil in different colours so you can match it to your paving.

need to get some for my Ssangyong Musso

Rider · Post by **Rider** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:05 pm

zepplin wrote:Like Land Rover, Ford is now selling oil in different colours so you can match it to your paving.

Lol

96-Luxi 4x4 · Post by **96-Luxi 4x4** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:17 pm

Thanks guys, but was hoping for some real advice

Racer-X · Post by **Racer-X** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:10 pm

I would also like the manual
where can i get it from?

Stubs · Post by **Stubs** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:40 am

Hi Julien, I have the manual, send me your email address and during the course of the day will email it to you, its about 6 emails in total as another guy on the fourm was so kind to scan it and email it to me

cheers Stubs

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:39 pm

Also got a Ford V6 in my bakkie, and not ashamed of it, bought my vehicle already with the convertion done to it!!!!! Easy and cheap to fix, and spares readily available. Just want to know if the 4y engine mountings is a straight fit or do you need to modify the mounting brackets that bolt onto the engineblock to fit 4y mountings???? Still uses the old Ford mountings and already replaced four, so they don't seem to be that strong in the bakkie!!!! Furtheron no hickups with the engine, and been driving it for six years now.

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:46 pm

96-Luxi 4x4 wrote:Hi Guys

Seems like I have some of the Ford V6 Guyes here. In my other Hilux, my 84 stout single cab 4x4 I have a ford V6, but think it needs some attention. It struggles a bit to start, smokes a bit, and has a few oil leaks.

Should I pull the motor and overhaul it (what would the cost be +-), or do i go with the normal 1UZ V8 on the 5 speed manual.

I think the Ford is enough power, but just thinking of cost and reliability, and also to keep everything Toyota

Thanks

Naas,

The Exxex V6 is still the cheapest Rand/kw you can get!

I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure you can recon that V6 for under R5k!

I can not see that you can do a Lexus conversion for under R40k and then you have teething problems et al.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:10 am

Kat wrote:Also got a Ford V6 in my bakkie, and not ashamed of it, bought my vehicle already with the convertion done to it!!!!! Easy and cheap to fix, and spares readily available. Just want to know if the 4y engine mountings is a straight fit or do you need to modify the mounting brackets that bolt onto the engineblock to fit 4y mountings???? Still uses the old Ford mountings and already replaced four, so they don't seem to be that strong in the bakkie!!!! Furtheron no hickups with the engine, and been driving it for six years now.

Dont use the std Ford v6 engine mountings. They cannot handle the L/R torque and break. Use the std 4Y engine mountings. They last. I had the same problem on my V6 conversion. You can ask Hoppy how he managed to get them in there.

96-Luxi 4x4 · Post by **96-Luxi 4x4** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:29 am

Cool. Thanks guys. This helps my decision,when the time is right I will just recon the motor and change engine mountings and re do carb.

Is there a carb kit available for these carbs? I dont know but seems like the standard carb?

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:36 pm

Hi Naas

Soos ek verstaan is daardie v6 Ford motors op hulle gelukkigste met n 38 weber card op hulle kits is vollop beskikbaar.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:57 pm

Hallo Naas

Die V6 het standaard uitgekom met 'n 38 weber DGAS. Ek weet Echlin maak 'n kit vir die carburettor's, en midas behoort dit te verkoop. Hoop dit help.

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:07 pm

ThysdJ wrote:
Kat wrote:Also got a Ford V6 in my bakkie, and not ashamed of it, bought my vehicle already with the convertion done to it!!!!! Easy and cheap to fix, and spares readily available. Just want to know if the 4y engine mountings is a straight fit or do you need to modify the mounting brackets that bolt onto the engineblock to fit 4y mountings???? Still uses the old Ford mountings and already replaced four, so they don't seem to be that strong in the bakkie!!!! Furtheron no hickups with the engine, and been driving it for six years now.
Dont use the std Ford v6 engine mountings. They cannot handle the L/R torque and break. Use the std 4Y engine mountings. They last. I had the same problem on my V6 conversion. You can ask Hoppy how he managed to get them in there.

Dankie vir die info Thys

Sifu-Lux · Post by **Sifu-Lux** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:04 am

Got my carb kit and other Weber parts from Carburettor City in JHB. I think basic overhaul hit was about R 400

011 3344433
171 Main St
Johannesburg (Gauteng)

96-Luxi 4x4 · Post by **96-Luxi 4x4** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:51 pm

Thanks Guys, appreciate all the info

do you know of anyone that will do me a favour and redo the motor, respray and so in JHB, east rand area once the time is right?

Thanks

96-Luxi 4x4 · Post by **96-Luxi 4x4** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:11 am

Hi guys. Where is the best place to buy engine spares for the fors engine. Pistons cranck bearings etc. friend of mine lost an engine.

Thanks.

Sifu-Lux · Post by **Sifu-Lux** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:32 pm

Got all my engine parts for my rebuild from Alert Engine spares and Autozone.

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:15 pm

lots of questions here, sadly haven't looked in here for a while, as I believe I have plenty of answer

yes carburator city about the best place to get the carburator kits

to redo the V6 properly with new parts including engineering, can't be done with 5k anymore
then add a complete clutch kit, closer to 10k for peace of mind

then going from V6 to lexus V8, self am going that trip, although rather slowly, however I tow quiet heavy and big, and if you do every thing your self, you can do it for around 30k
self was lucky as the surge tack was free, clutch is the Ford one as I have a ford Courier and those clutches are cheaper then the Toyota, engine mounting a friend did all the turning and self just bought the vesconite
many brackets like for the bmw radiator and the water bottle, did myself

however have another V8 at home, a Jeep V8, and the V8 sounds so much better then a V6, and the lexus V8 likes to rev, so can't wait to hear my one roar in the bakkie

and just to wet your appetite

my lexus V8 being bench tested before coming home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJOiGQt_DbE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

enjoy

Stubs · Post by **Stubs** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:57 am

Now Fernando that sounds awesome..... I love my V6 Ford but you cant beat that low rumble when the engine is ticking over, the best...

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:44 am

Hey guys I know this thread was posted a long time ago. I was wondering if sombody could email me the workshop manual for the 3.0 ford v6 motor. I'm having trouble getting it to start

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:47 pm

Have some where at home, a file with specs
Meaning will need to scan or take photo of the pages to mail

So it wount start?? Lets see if we can help
What did you dobefore it wont start now, or did it go ok one day and the next day it wouldent start
Or did you rebuild the motor
Ignition > points or electronic
What carb is on it

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:58 pm

Well I bought this bakkie with a siesed ford v6 motor. I pulled it out and put this motor in. Iv never run the motor before. It has compression. Its got spark. The fuel pump is pumping fuel. It just won't start. If I throw some fuel down the carb it ignites that but does not continue to run

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:38 pm

Then that narrows it down to carb

Maybe take the top of the carb off and see if there is fuel in the fuel boel, and then you might as well see what size jets are in every where
Mains and air correction jets

Got to start somewhere

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:43 pm

Ill check the carb tomorrow. But I took it in to carb doctor and they had it on the test motor and it seemed to run fine?

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:55 pm

chrisv6 wrote:Ill check the carb tomorrow. But I took it in to carb doctor and they had it on the test motor and it seemed to run fine?

Uh!! If it wants to start when you put fuel down the throat and it wants to start but dies then to me it say not getting fuel, maybe someone else has some other ideas
However from my experiance and logic, motor not getting fuel
Did u see the carb running on the other motor?? Testing

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:01 pm

Yeah I did. But I will check it my self tomorrow. The manual says what size the jets should be and all that. I agree with you about the carb theory but haven it tested made me assume its somthing els. So I'll go through it and see what I can find

Post by **Family_Dog** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:56 pm

The distributor not perhaps 180° out of phase? Can you see the timing marks when the distributor rotor points to #1 plug?

-F_D

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:01 pm

If I lighn the front crank pully to its timing mark. Putting piston one at TDC the rotor is facing spark plug point one

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:25 am

Family_Dog wrote:The distributor not perhaps 180° out of phase? Can you see the timing marks when the distributor rotor points to #1 plug?

-F_D

Also thought of that, as I have been there done that one
However the fact that when fuel gets poured down the carb it wants to run, lead me to think that its not getting fuel

Quick question
Does the carb have two fuel pipe connection
Incomming and return
Maybe check those

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:31 am

Ok set the timing and still no go. The carb only has one line in. Its getting fuel into the bowl. And when I crank the accelorator it sprays down the barrels... I took the two main jets out the are .05 smaller than they should be. That wouldn't cause it not to spray enough fuel to start right?

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:32 am

Its aliiiive! The problem was the carb. The one diaphrame had a crack and all the carb settings where out. Thanks for all the help from everybody! I can finaly get my bakkie moving again

TKM · Post by **TKM** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:09 pm

Hi,

Could you perhaps tell me what jets are supposed to be in the carb? I run a 3,4L with a weber 38DCOE carb.

TKM

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:56 am

Hi TKM, the main jets(145) Em. Tube(F50) air corr. Jet(185) idle jet(45) pump jet(70) pump exh.(30) needle valve(2.50) float level (MM) O/C (52.5/40). That's all the standerd parts for the 38 webber DGAS and DGES

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:58 am

The only DCOE I found would be a 40 weber.

chrisv6 · Post by **chrisv6** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:10 am

And the DCOE is a weber sidedraft to my knowlage correct me if I'm wrong please

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:33 am

DCOE is a side, they come in 40, 45 and 48mm.

The DGAS for the V6 has 38mm butterflys, but it comes in either 27 or 29mm venturis (stamped on the side and not removable), the 27mm is the one to get for a 4x4, more torquey and lighter on fuel. On reef altitude, you can go to 205 on the airs for better consumption.

TKM · Post by **TKM** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:42 am

Sorry gents! Chrisv6 you are correct.... its a DGAS.... my memory played up!

Thanks for the info, I will check them asap.

Does anyone perhaps know where I could source the solenoid valves on the side of the carb? one of mine is faulty, but still need to check which one..... It has happened before but we battled to find one here in PE.

Thanks again for info!

Sifu-Lux · Post by **Sifu-Lux** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:08 pm

Not sure what you mean about solenoid valves on the carb, mine does not have?

KALAHARI SEUN · Post by **KALAHARI SEUN** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:24 pm

Ek het ook ook die 38weber dgas op my V6, maar daar by staan 4A2 en op n spaar weber staan daar by net 9A. Daar is n paar verskille tussen die 2. En die grootste een is dat die 4A2 glad n petrol return het nie! Het enige van julle al dit raak geloop?

Racer-X · Post by **Racer-X** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:35 am

Hi Guys

I've been reading

this thread with interest, as well as any other threads about the Essex V6.

I have one in my Series 3 88" landy.

I have had alot of help from:
David Van Jaarsveld
Supreme Auto
Parkin Street

041 484 7701

Tell him Julien sent you.

He has helped me with setting the carb and changing jets etc.

Bear in mind he is an old school mechanic that used to work for Opel Motorsport.
He works on anything though.
This week I have seen from 50/60's Jaguar to a 3 or 4 year old Merc ML 320 diesel

Cheers
Julien

Sifu-Lux · Post by **Sifu-Lux** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:53 pm

Good to know, thanks Julian