Hilux 4x4 Forum

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:22 am**

Is it just me, or is the forum a bit broken?

Everything is aligned in the middle. Not so lekker.

Help mods.

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:24 am**

Riaan I know Pieter just did a software upgrade. Maybe you come in while something was busy being set up.

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:27 am**

Maybe someone edited a style sheet(css) and set 'text-align: center'. Or the element attribute for the cell data(td) is set to 'align=center'. Should be easy to fix!

B

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:31 am**

Thys, been like that since about 3 this morning. Logged off, and when I logged in now, no change.

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:38 am**

Pieter probably knows about it, but decided rather to get some sleep than carry on sukkeling with it at 2am in the morning!

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:43 am**

snipes wrote:Pieter probably knows about it, but decided rather to get some sleep than carry on sukkeling with it at 2am in the morning!

I don't think so as we chatted after he was done with the upgrade and he did not mention anything. I will inform him

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:48 am**

Thanks Niel!

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:57 am**

Left him a voice mail

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:38 am**

Riaan... gebruik jy Internet Explorer, Firefox of Google Chrome?

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:06 am**

It only seems to be affecting IE, I've tested on Firefox 3 and Google Chrome and they render the alignment left, as usual IE seems to be doing it's own thing! Does the forum software use different stylesheets for each browser??(not likely!)...

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:14 am**

Gebruik IE7, sal maar oorslaan na firefox toe.

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:24 am**

ToyX4 wrote:Gebruik IE7, sal maar oorslaan na firefox toe.

Firefox het in elk geval baie nicer features etc as IE :)

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:24 am**

On further investigation, this forum software uses a seperate css file for IE7, hence why the issue only affects IE7:

<link rel="stylesheet" href="./styles/serenetblue/theme/stylesheet.css" type="text/css" />

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:50 pm**

Mine does the same, only I'll have to live with it this way as work wont allow any other browser to be installed.

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:58 pm**

Are you using Explorer?
In Firefox it works perfect, see pic below

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:18 pm**

I asked the creator of the Serenity style for help and am waiting for his reply.

Why don't you download and install a proper browser in the mean time, you can get it at
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/

Bretton I checked the ie7.css Stylesheet but all it says is:

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/* CSS for IE 7 */

and nothing more.

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:47 pm**

Hey, hey! Nothing wrong with IE7, it's just the whole world wide web that's not compatible with it!

Ok so the IE7 stylesheet allows for IE7 specific corrections

Pieter as an interim fix you can add the following css code to the IE7.css file:

/* CSS for IE 7 */
.row1{
text-align: left;
}

The above is a class declaration for .row1 style setting the text alignment left.

I have tested it offline and it fixes the issue, once you have the corrected css file, then you can just delete it!

Bretton

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:03 pm**

IE7 is the same

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:06 pm**

No fixes have been applied yet!

B

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:41 pm**

Hi Bretton, I added the line to the style sheet but it is still the same.

The mains tyle sheet looks like this, can you see anything wrong with it?

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/* Layout
 ------------ */
* {
	/* Reset browsers default margin, padding and font sizes */
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
}

html {
	font-size: 100%;
}

body {
	color: #000;
	background: #EEE url(images/bg_body.gif);
	font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
	font-size: 10px;
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
}
#body-simple {
	background: #F8F8F8;
	padding: 5px;
}

#wrapper {
	background: url(images/bg_body_top.gif) top left repeat-x;
	padding: 5px;
}

/* Misc stuff */
img {
	border: none;
}

.gen {
	margin: 1px 1px;
	font-size: 1.2em;
}

.genmed {
	margin: 1px 1px;
	font-size: 1.1em;
}

.gensmall {
	margin: 1px 1px;
	font-size: 1em;
}

.titles {
	font-family: "Lucida Grande", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
	font-weight: bold;
	font-size: 1.3em;
	text-decoration: none;
}

.error, table td .error {
	color: #D16410;
}

.spacer {
	background: #525779 url(images/spacerbg.gif) top left repeat-x;
}

hr	{ height: 0px; border: solid #43486D 0px; border-top-width: 1px;}

.pagination {
	padding: 4px;
	font-size: 1em;
	font-weight: bold;
}

/* Links
 ------------ */
a {
	color: #43486D;
	text-decoration: none;
}

a:active,
a:visited {
	color: #43486D;
	text-decoration: none;
}

a:hover {
	color: #D16410;
	text-decoration: underline;
}

a.forumlink {
	font-weight: bold;
	font-family: "Lucida Grande", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
	font-size: 1.2em;
}

a.topictitle {
	margin: 1px 0px;
	font-family: "Lucida Grande", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
	font-weight: bold;
	font-size: 1.2em;
}

a.topictitle, .postbody a {
	color: #43486D;
}
a.topictitle:visited, .postbody a:visited {
	color: #5A5F85;
}
a.topictitle:visited:hover, .postbody a:visited:hover {
	color: #43486D;
}
a.topictitle:hover, .postbody a:hover {
	color: #D16410;
}

/* Header and logo */
#maintable {
	border: solid 1px #999;
	margin: 0 auto;
	background-color: #F8F8F8;
}
#logorow {
	background: #F8F8F8 url(images/bg_logo.gif) top left repeat-x;
	text-align: left;
	padding: 0;
	padding-top: 6px;
	min-height: 70px;
}

.pm-notify-new, .pm-notify-unread {
	border-left: solid 1px #4E5172;
	border-right: solid 1px #43486D;
	border-top: solid 1px #4E5172;
	border-bottom: solid 1px #43486D;
	background: #F8F8F8 url(images/cell.gif) top left repeat-x;
	margin: 10px 0;
	padding: 10px;
	text-align: center;
	font-size: 12px;
	font-weight: bold;
}
.pm-notify-new a, .pm-notify-new a:visited, .pm-notify-unread a, .pm-notify-unread a:visited { text-decoration: underline; }
.pm-notify-header {
	margin-bottom: 10px;
	color: #666;
}
.pm-notify-new, .pm-notify-unread:hover {
	border-left: solid 1px #F19E5F;
	border-right: solid 1px #D16410;
	border-top: solid 1px #F19E5F;
	border-bottom: solid 1px #D16410;
}
.pm-notify-new { padding: 30px; }

/* Navigation buttons */
.navtd {
	padding: 0 10px 5px 10px;
}
.navrow-right { float: right; }
.navrow {
	background: #F1F1F1 url(images/bg_nav.gif) top left repeat-x; 
	border: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
	padding: 5px;
	color: #909090;
	text-align: left;
	font-size: 11px;
}
.navrow b, .navrow strong { font-weight: normal; }
.navrow a, .navrow a:visited {
	color: #43486D;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.navrow a:hover { 
	color: #D16410; 
	text-decoration: underline; 
}

a.link-new, a.link-new:visited { color: #D16410; }
a.link-new:hover, a.link-new:visited:hover { color: #5A5F85; }

/* Content and tables */
#contentrow {
	padding: 5px 10px;
}

.tablebg {
	border: solid 1px #BBB;
	border-top-color: #C8C8C8;
	background: #F8F8F8 url(images/cell.gif) top left repeat-x;
}

.row1, .row2, .row3, .forumrules, tr.row1 .row, tr.row2 .row, tr.row3 .row, .postbottom {
	border-left: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-right: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
	border-top: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-bottom: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
	background: #F8F8F8 url(images/cell.gif) top left repeat-x;
	padding: 4px;
}
th {
	color: #AAA; 
	font-size: 11px; 
	font-weight: bold;
	background: #FFF url(images/th.gif) top left repeat-x;
	white-space: nowrap;
	padding: 0 5px;
	text-align: center;
	height: 26px;
	border-left: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-right: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
	border-top: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-bottom: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
}
th a, th a:visited {
	color: #AAA !important;
	text-decoration: underline;
}
th a:hover {
	color: #43486D;
	text-decoration: underline;
}

td {
	padding: 2px;
}
td.profile {
	padding: 4px;
}
.catdiv {
	height: 24px;
	padding: 0 3px;
	border-left: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-right: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
	border-top: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-bottom: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
	background: #F1F1F1 url(images/bg_tfoot.gif) top left repeat-x;
}
.cat {
	height: 24px;
	padding: 0 3px;
	border-left: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-right: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
	border-top: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-bottom: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
	background: #F1F1F1 url(images/bg_tfoot.gif) top left repeat-x;
	text-indent: 4px;
}
.cathead {
	background: #F1F1F1 url(images/bg_tfoot.gif) top left repeat-x;
	height: 24px;
	padding: 1px 3px;
	border-left: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-right: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
	border-top: solid 1px #FFF;
	border-bottom: solid 1px #E0E0E0;
}

.legend {
	padding: 4px;
}


/* Table header */
caption, .cap-div { 
	margin: 0; 
	padding: 0;
	background: url(images/tcat_mid.gif) top left repeat-x;
	white-space: nowrap;
	height: 26px;
	text-align: left;
}
.cap-left {
	background: url(images/tcat_left.gif) top left no-repeat;
	padding-left: 25px;
}
.cap-right {
	background: url(images/tcat_right.gif) top right no-repeat;
	padding-top: 6px;
	height: 20px;
}
caption, caption h1, caption h2, caption h3, caption h4, caption span,
.cap-div, .cap-div h1, .cap-div h2, .cap-div h3, .cap-div h4, .cap-div span { 
	font-size: 13px;
	line-height: 1.2em;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #43486D;
	font-family: "Lucida Grande", "Trebuchet MS", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
}
caption h1, caption h2, caption h3, caption h4, caption span,
.cap-div h1, .cap-div h2, .cap-div h3, .cap-div h4, .cap-div span { 
	display: inline;
}
caption a, caption a:visited, .cap-div a, .cap-div a:visited {
	color: #43486D;
	text-decoration: underline;
}
caption a:hover, .cap-div a:hover {
	color: #D16410;
	text-decoration: underline;
}

/* Footer */
#wrapfooter {
	text-align: center;
	color: #666;
	padding-top: 10px;
}

.copyright {
	color: #666;
	font-weight: normal;
	font-size: 9px;
	line-height: 1.2em;
}
.copyright a, .copyright a:visited {
	color: #444;
	text-decoration: underline;
}
.copyright a:hover { color: #D16410; }


/* Breadcrumbs */
p.breadcrumbs {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
	float: left;
	color: #AAA;
	font-weight: bold;
	white-space: normal;
	font-size: 1em;
}
.rtl p.breadcrumbs {
	float: right;
}

p.datetime {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
	float: right;
	white-space: nowrap;
	font-size: 1em;
}

.rtl p.datetime {
	float: left;
}

/* Index/viewforum */
.subforum.read { 
	background: url(images/sub_old.gif) top left no-repeat;
	padding-left: 12px;
}
.subforum.unread { 
	background: url(images/sub_new.gif) top left no-repeat;
	padding-left: 12px;
}
.legend {
	text-align: center;
	margin: 0 auto;
	padding: 2px;
}
.legend-viewforum { 
	margin: 0; 
	text-align: left; 
}

.forumrules {
	padding: 4px;
	font-weight: normal;
	font-size: 1.1em;
	border-left-color: #AAA;
	border-top-color: #AAA;
	border-right-color: #CCC;
	border-bottom-color: #CCC;
	font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.forumrules h3 {
	color: #D16410;
}

/* Post */
.postsubject {
	font-size: 12px;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #43486D;
}
td.postbottom { 
	background: #F1F1F1 url(images/bg_tfoot.gif) top left repeat-x;
	font-size: 10px;
	color: #444;
	white-space: nowrap;
	padding: 2px;
	vertical-align: middle;
}
td.postbuttons { padding-top: 3px; }
.postdetails { 
	color: #666;
	font-size: 10px; 
	text-align: left;
}
.postdetails b {
	color: #444;
}
.posterrank		{ font-size: 9px; color: #666; }
.posterprofile	{ font-size: 10px; color: #666; }

.postauthor {
	color: #43486D;
	font-size: 12px;
	margin-bottom: 3px;
	font-weight: bold;
}
.postonline { margin-bottom: 2px; }

.postreported, .postreported a:visited, .postreported a:hover, .postreported a, .postreported a:active {
	margin: 1px 0px;
	color: #D16410;
	font-weight: bold;
}

.postapprove, .postapprove a:visited, .postapprove a:hover, .postapprove a, .postapprove a:active {
	color: #00FF00;
	font-weight: bold;
}

.postapprove img, .postreported img {
	vertical-align: bottom;
}

.postbody {
	font-size: 12px;
	line-height: 1.4em;
	margin: 3px 0;
}
.signature {
	font-size: 11px;
	color: #888;
	margin-top: 5px;
}
.signature .line { color: #AAA; }

.postbody li, ol, ul {
	margin: 0 0 0 1.5em;
}

.rtl .postbody li, .rtl ol, .rtl ul {
	margin: 0 1.5em 0 0;
}

.posthilit {
	background-color: #43486D;
}

.postsubject {
	font-size: 12px;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #43486D;
}

.postbody a { text-decoration: underline; }

/* UCP */
.folder-current a, .folder-current a:visited {
	color: #000;
	font-weight: bold;
}
.folder-current a:hover { color: #D16410; }

td.pm_marked_colour { background: #888; }
td.pm_marked_colour_left { border-left: solid 3px #888; padding-left: 2px; }
td.pm_marked_colour_right { border-right: solid 3px #888; padding-right: 2px; }

td.pm_replied_colour { background: #43486D; }
td.pm_replied_colour_left { border-left: solid 3px #43486D; padding-left: 2px; }
td.pm_replied_colour_right { border-right: solid 3px #43486D; padding-right: 2px; }

td.pm_friend_colour { background: #007700; }
td.pm_friend_colour_left { border-left: solid 3px #007700; padding-left: 2px; }
td.pm_friend_colour_right { border-right: solid 3px #007700; padding-right: 2px; }

td.pm_foe_colour { background: #DD6000; }
td.pm_foe_colour_left { border-left: solid 3px #DD6000; padding-left: 2px; }
td.pm_foe_colour_right { border-right: solid 3px #DD6000; padding-right: 2px; }


/* Form Elements
 ------------ */
form {
	margin: 0px;
	padding: 0px;
	border: 0px;
}

textarea, select, .post, .btnbbcode, .btnmain, .btnlite, .btnfile, .helpline {
	font-weight: normal;
	font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	color: #444;
	border: 1px solid #888;
	background-color: #FFF;
}
#helpline { color: #444; }

input {
	font-size: 1.1em;
	padding: 1px;
}
textarea {
	font-size: 1.3em; 
	line-height: 1.4em;
	padding: 2px;
}
select {
	font-size: 1.1em;
	padding: 1px;
}

option {
	padding: 0 1em 0 0;
}

.rtl option {
	padding: 0 0 0 1em;
}

.post {
	border-style: solid;
	border-width: 1px;
}

.btnbbcode {
	font-size: 1.1em;
	border: 1px solid #8F91A6;
}
.btnbbcode:hover {
	border-color: #444;
	color: #000;
}

.btnmain {
	font-weight: bold;
	cursor: pointer;
	padding: 1px 5px;
	font-size: 1.1em;
}

.btnlite {
	font-weight: normal;
	cursor: pointer;
	padding: 1px 5px;
	font-size: 1.1em;
}

.btnfile {
	font-weight: normal;
	padding: 1px 5px;
	font-size: 1.1em;
}

.helpline {
	background-color: transparent;
	color: #444;
	border-style: none;
}

* html textarea, * html select, * html .post, * html .btnmain, * html .btnlite, * html .btnfile {
	border-color: #888;
}
textarea:hover, select:hover, .post:hover, .btnmain:hover, .btnlite:hover, .btnfile:hover {
	border-color: #43486D;
}
textarea:focus, select:focus, .post:focus, .btnmain:focus, .btnlite:focus, .btnfile:focus {
	border-color: #32344D; 
	color: #000;
}

label:hover { 
	color: #D16410; 
}

/* BBCode
 ------------ */
.quotetitle, .attachtitle, .codetitle {
	margin: 10px 5px 0px 5px;
	padding: 2px 4px 0 4px;
	border: solid 1px #D8D8D8;
	border-bottom-width: 0;
	color: #43486D;
	background: #FAFAFA url(images/bg_box_code.gif) top right no-repeat;
	font-size: 0.85em;
	font-weight: bold;
}

.quotetitle { background-image: url(images/bg_box_quote.gif); }
.attachtitle { background-image: url(images/bg_box_attach.gif); }

.quotetitle .quotetitle {
	font-size: 1em;
}

.quotecontent, .attachcontent {
	margin: 0px 5px 10px 5px;
	padding: 5px;
	border-color: #D8D8D8;
	border-width: 0px 1px 1px 1px;
	border-style: solid;
	font-weight: normal;
	font-size: 1em;
	line-height: 1.4em;
/*	font-family: "Lucida Grande", "Trebuchet MS", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; */
	background-color: #FAFAFA;
	color: #444;
}

.attachcontent {
	font-size: 0.85em;
}

.codecontent {
	direction: ltr;
	margin: 0px 5px 10px 5px;
	padding: 5px;
	border-color: #D8D8D8;
	border-width: 0px 1px 1px 1px;
	border-style: solid;
	font-weight: normal;
	font-size: 11px;
	font-family: Monaco, 'Courier New', monospace;
	background-color: #FAFAFA;
	color: #444;
}

.attachcontent, html>body .postbody {
	overflow: auto;
	overflow-x: auto;
}


.syntaxbg {
	color: #000;
}

.syntaxcomment {
	color: #666;
}

.syntaxdefault {
	color: #000;
}

.syntaxhtml {
	color: #000;
}

.syntaxkeyword {
	color: #D16410;
}

.syntaxstring {
	color: #43486D;
}


/* More misc stuff */
h1 {
/*	font-family: "Lucida Grande", "Trebuchet MS", Verdana, sans-serif; */
	font-weight: bold;
	font-size: 1.8em;
	text-decoration: none;
}

h2 {
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-weight: bold;
	font-size: 1.5em;
	text-decoration: none;
	line-height: 120%;
}

h3 {
	font-size: 1.3em;
	font-weight: bold;
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	line-height: 120%;
}

h4 {
	margin: 0px;
	font-size: 1.1em;
	font-weight: bold;
}

p {
	font-size: 1.1em;
}

p.moderators {
	margin: 0px;
	float: left;
	color: #CCC;
	font-weight: bold;
}

.rtl p.moderators {
	float: right;
}

p.linkmcp {
	margin: 0px;
	float: right;
	white-space: nowrap;
}

.rtl p.linkmcp {
	float: left;
}

p.searchbar {
	padding: 2px 0;
	white-space: nowrap;
} 

p.searchbarreg {
	margin: 0px;
	float: right;
	white-space: nowrap;
}

.rtl p.searchbarreg {
	float: left;
}

p.forumdesc {
	padding-bottom: 4px;
}

p.topicauthor {
	margin: 1px 0px;
}

p.topicdetails {
	margin: 1px 0px;
}
td.history-current, tr.row1 td.history-current, tr.row2 td.history-current {
	background: #DDD;
}

table.colortable td {
	padding: 0;
}

pre {
	font-size: 1.1em;
	font-family: Monaco, 'Courier New', monospace;
}

.nowrap {
	white-space: nowrap;
}

.username-coloured {
	font-weight: bold;
}

.sep {
	color: #444;
}


/* bugs */
@media all and (min-width: 0px)
{
	/* reset file input style for Opera - it changes only text color and border, but not bg color */
	.btnfile, .btnfile:hover, .btnfile:focus { 
		border: none; 
		background-color: #FFF;
		color: #000;
	}

}

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:48 pm**

Piet, die index page en so is nou reg align.
Al wat nou nog centre aligned is, is n actual posts, en die heading van die post.

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:05 pm**

In my IE6 is alles steeds in die middel

Ek het nou alles in die style sheet wat lees text-align: center;
vervang met text-align: left; en hy is steeds so.

So ons sal maar moet wag en sien waarmee kom die tegniese ouens uit.

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:11 pm**

I've mailed you Pieter...

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:21 pm**

It's fine in Firefox, but earlier today I also had the problem. Probably with Opera, I use both Opera & Firefox at work.

-F_D

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:35 pm**

Should be fine now, I applied the changes Bretton emailed me.

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:36 pm**

I quite like the new look, centred is cool by me

Posted: **Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:55 pm**

pietpetoors wrote:Should be fine now, I applied the changes Bretton emailed me.

Hy's reg nou. Dankie vir jou moeite Piet

Posted: **Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:46 am**

Maar nou gaan ek weer kla. Als wat vante vore centre was is ook nou links alligned soos byvoorbeeld die kolom links met die poster se details wat altyd centre was. :o :o

Hoe lyk dit ouens met vodadom 3G (Riaan / wie nog) kan julle nou makliker pics laai na die upgrade of is vodadom nog steeds stadig.

Posted: **Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:34 am**

BenHur wrote:Maar nou gaan ek weer kla. Als wat vante vore centre was is ook nou links alligned soos byvoorbeeld die kolom links met die poster se details wat altyd centre was. :o :o

Hoe lyk dit ouens met vodadom 3G (Riaan / wie nog) kan julle nou makliker pics laai na die upgrade of is vodadom nog steeds stadig.

Al my goed is ooko nou links alligned :|

Posted: **Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:47 am**

I'll send Pieter another minor fix in a mo...

B

Posted: **Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:13 am**

Al die text aan my kant is centre aligned.

Posted: **Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:48 pm**

OK, I reloaded the CSS files which Bretton created for us.
If the text is still not aligned correctly please
click this link:
ucp.php?mode=delete_cookies

Then log back into the site and see if it is better. Or in Internet Explorer press CTRL F5 to clear the cache.

Posted: **Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:20 pm**

My side is 100%

Posted: **Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:40 pm**

BenHur wrote:Maar nou gaan ek weer kla. Als wat vante vore centre was is ook nou links alligned soos byvoorbeeld die kolom links met die poster se details wat altyd centre was. :o :o

Hoe lyk dit ouens met vodadom 3G (Riaan / wie nog) kan julle nou makliker pics laai na die upgrade of is vodadom nog steeds stadig.

Alles lyk reg, sal sondag kan antwoord as ek my nuwe posts geskryf het en sien of die fotos dan upload.

Posted: **Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:01 pm**

Sorry guys, I have sent the final fixed versions to Pieter, I goofed up. The file I sent Pieter contains the old and new fix, so you wouldn't see any difference. When the updated files(latest ones) are uploaded, the signatures in the left column will be center aligned, and the post body text left aligned(as it should be...)...

Bretton

Posted: **Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:42 pm**

OK, Applied the latest fix
Thanx Bretton

Posted: **Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:29 am**

Bretton you mustnt goof up or around so much

Thanx it looks better now

Posted: **Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:17 pm**

My feedback after tonight is that the forum seem to be a lot more faster in uploading pictures and doing posts ect when using 3G wireless connections.

Looks like it is soreted out now.

Thank you Guys!!!

Posted: **Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:25 am**

Johan, het dit ook gister gesien. Dit is n plesier om nou pics te laai

Posted: **Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:53 am**

My experience has always been that 3G is fine for normal web browsing, but as soon as you want to do more it has issues, like poor FTP perform and high latency on the upload side. The 3G network is specifically optimised for normal HTTP connections and anything else receives a much lower priority on the network.

The other thing I've noted is that the 3G based station(cellphone towers) have limited capacity, so as more people use 3G in a specific area, so the service levels seem to detoriate. We used to run our business comms over a 3G connection, but because of these issues we switched to ADSL, and are much happier now!

B

Posted: **Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:38 pm**

Hi Bretton, Vodacom already put me on the InternetVPN in order to try and make it better but still it is a nightmare. Luckily my 2 year contract ended in Dec last year and if Telkom can get their act together I will have an ADSL line again real soon.

My advice to other will be: If you are just browsing the internet now and then, 3G will work for you. But if you are trying to work stay away from it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:27 pm**

I used Vodacom 3G again today and it si still pathetic, everytimne after posting it needs to be reloaded and if you take too long to type it times out if you post as well

Posted: **Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:01 pm**

Gents PM me with your 3 g problems and the exact location and I will see what can be done

Posted: **Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:41 pm**

Niel wrote:Gents PM me with your 3 g problems and the exact location and I will see what can be done

Is jy seker Niel, kan miljoene kos

Maar aangesien jy aanbied, ek soek graag 3G, het net edge(soms), en my kontrak is nog so 18 maande geldig.

Posted: **Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:22 pm**

Hi Niel,

I'm in South Africa...

Ok, ok, Morgenster, Brackenfell. I build AJAX WEB 2 applications for a living, and a stable internet connection is a prerequisite. Our office 3G connection was poor, even after the Vodacom technicians visited us to remedy the problem, the issues continued, extremely high latency(500ms+, as high as 5secs at times) and data packet dropping(up to 40%).

With our ADSL at the office now, I get an average latency of 15ms and 0% packet loss.

I believe our problems were based on cell base station bandwidth limitations.

Bretton

Posted: **Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:04 pm**

Gents, pls provide me with your addresses (Riaan more or less directions to find your farm on a map) and PM me the details. You do not want this info in a public place. In addition also provide what PC/notebook, modem, number ..... you use (I will confirm the requirred detail you need to supply me with as I have to find out who the best people is to action your issues)

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:15 pm**

Niel

My Vodacom 3G sucks in any place in SA I tried using it. At home in the north of Pretoria, in Centurion at the office and all over gauteng at customers' sites. I also had issues using it when I was in CTN, Jeffereysbay, at Klersdorp while visiting Eric.

Cant remember the no as it is one of those Huawei USB modems with a dedicated SIM that the work pays for so I never use the no only the pin.

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:18 pm**

Bennie, jy is die 3de persoon wat die

BenHur wrote:Huawei USB modems

gebruik. Ek sal more uitvind aangaande die modem. Ek gebruik my laptop se internal modem en ek het niks problem nie behalwe hier en daar waar die syn swak is op 3G dan slaan hy oor GPRS toe, maar dis wat dit veronder stel was om te doen.

Ek gaan my laptop die naweek Langebaan toe vat dan kan ek en Pieter bietjie toets of daar verskil is ......
Sal laat weet.

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:34 pm**

Can we change this subject to "Broken 3G" now?

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:45 pm**

jy het n PM

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:04 pm**

Niel

3G op my Sony Ericssons P1i is net so pateties met browsing, maar met active sync is hy blitsvinnig. Het hom nog nooit as modem op my Laptop ge try nie.

Posted: **Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:08 pm**

Pm my so bietjie besonderhede soos die cell/data nommer en ten minste 1 plek waar jy altyd probleme het en waar jy baie tyd spandeer. Ons is al n stappie nader aan Pieter se probleem.

Posted: **Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:43 am**

Lightning tonked my ADSL modem last night within five minutes of me switching the PC on

Got a new Netgear ADSL modem today, even managed to set it up myself

and using Opera during my tests, this forum has never been so fast for me before as it is now. Takes less than a second to open pages.

Niel, I also have one of those 3G Huawei modems, but only use it when I go away on annual leave. As I remember last October, my browsing was quick and I could download quickly, but was unable to upload any graphic content to the forum.

-F_D

Posted: **Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:47 pm**

Is it just me, or is the pages tooooooo wide.
I have to scroll left & right to see it all :?

Posted: **Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:28 pm**

No, it's not just you .... the pages are wider now due to the two new links that were added on either side of the banner ad ('Join the Hilux Club' and 'riends of Barking Mad').
I wonder if Cassie can re-position them a little

.....

Posted: **Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:35 pm**

ag pleeeeze Cassie

Posted: **Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:49 pm**

Back to the topic - broken forum ...

some pages are "too wide" and i need to scroll right to read the whole post. Page 1 and 2 of this thread has this problem, but on page three the thread fits in the width of of screen.

I have this problem both at home and at work, both IE.

Posted: **Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:05 pm**

Mud Dog wrote:No, it's not just you .... the pages are wider now due to the two new links that were added on either side of the banner ad ('Join the Hilux Club' and 'riends of Barking Mad').
I wonder if Cassie can re-position them a little .....

This is not the case Andy. The links added above will not influence the page width as it is self adjusting to the width of your screen.

I do have a suspicion on what is actually causing the problem

ChrisF wrote:Back to the topic - broken forum ...

some pages are "too wide" and i need to scroll right to read the whole post. Page 1 and 2 of this thread has this problem, but on page three the thread fits in the width of of screen.

I have this problem both at home and at work, both IE.

Chris you stated that pages 1 and 2 ons this thread you have to scroll to the right. If I am correct in my suspicion in what is causing this page 3 is now also doing this. Am I correct?

Posted: **Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:10 pm**

No problem here, using Firefox.

The following works with FF, not sure about other browsers:

1. Hold down the <Ctrl> key.
2. Thne rotate the Mouse wheel (between the two levers) and you should be able to adjust the size of the view on your screen accordingly.

I never had to do that, the forum width never changed for me at all.

-F_D

Posted: **Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:15 pm**

Page 3 as well Cassie. I have it on every page, even now on the 'Post a reply' page .... the text box extends off the page, but as I type it scrolls to the right when the text reaches the end of the screen.

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