The fuel consumption of my Hilux

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:29 pm

Hi chaps

There is some scattered info on the forum about the various motors and fuel consumption, let's have ago at getting some of it together in a thread.

The last time I worked on our Hilux's engine I think the mechanic helping me got the fuel mixtures all wrong which sent the consumption through the roof +- 4km/litre, it was much better before this change.

The previous owners said they got consumption between 10.5L and 15L per hundred, but I think they were a little optimistic

I know there are so many factors that affect fuel consumption, but here goes (feel free to add more info/ criteria I have missed/omitted when you post):

Vehicle: 1987 SFA Hilux Double Cab (Import)
Km's on the clock: 270 000
Motor: 2.2L 4Y Petrol ( sub assembly done at 190 000kms)
Vehicle lift/ suspension: OME leaf springs and shocks, extended shackles
Tyres: 31" BF Goodrich All Terrain
Carb mod/ spacers?:No, Standard
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: No
Cam cut?:No
Exhaust mod?:Freeflow exhaust, branch fitted
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads, 1.9psi in the rear and 2psi in the front.
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?:No
Aircon?:Broken so not ever used
Canopy?:

CONSUPTION:Mainly done town driving so far. Max speed very rarely over 110kph (real GPS speed). Consumption was around 6km/L and is now running rich at 4.5km/L.

It would be most interesting to hear from the rest of you.

Cheers
Scotty :D

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:46 am

Fuel consumption: Average 7,3km/lt mosly open road. Consumption does not change much from empty to loaded.

Vehicle: 1997 SFA Hilux s/cab
Km's on the clock: 273 000
Motor: 2.4L (22R) Petrol
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Extra leaf in back otherwise standard. Ironman shocks.
Tyres: 215x15 Firestone ATX
Carb mod/ spacers?: Standard
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: No
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: Standard
Tyre pressure: Normally 2bar. When fully loaded 2,3 front and 2.8 rear.
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: Yes. Also with high profile steel canopy.
Aircon?: Yes and frequently used.
Canopy?:

Travelling Speed: (GPS) 85 â€“ 95km/hr

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:08 am

Vehicle: 1994 SFA Hilux Double Cab
Km's on the clock: 256 000
Motor: 2.2L 4Y Petrol
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Standard
Tyres: Wrangler RT/SA 265/75/15
Carb mod/ spacers?:Bro speed inlet manifold, standard carb
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: No
Cam cut?:No
Exhaust mod?:Wildcat branch into 50mm S/S powerflow exhaust
Tyre pressure: 2psi around town, upped depending on load.
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?:No
Aircon?:Seldomly used (Remember that open windows cause the same bad fuel consumption as an aircon)
Canopy?:
Fuel consumption: Was getting 7.8K/L, now getting 6.2K/L

I have just overhauled my carb. The mains were 100 & 171 for primary and secondary respectively, now they are 102 & 175. This is the cause of my increase of consumption and I think I will be changing back to see if I am right.
Scotty, it might be something for you to play with before you go. I can honestly say that the increase in jet size has not increased the performance (i.e. in a positive way, POWER). Catch my thread on the carb overhaul

Other than that, the increase in your consumption could be caused by the suspension lift, slightly bigger tyres and the exhaust system. The higher the vehicle the more drag, also note this will go up again with a RTT and lets face it, a freeflow may add a few extra horses but it takes a bit more to quench the thirst of those horses to. :D

Bosvark · Post by **Bosvark** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:11 am

Vehicle: 1989 SFA Hilux Double Cab
Km's on the clock: 207000
Motor: 2.2L 4Y Petrol
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Standard
Tyres: Bridgestone Dueler 31X10.5X15
Carb mod/ spacers?:Power flow , standard carb
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: Yes
EFI?: No
Cam cut?:No
Exhaust mod?:PowerFlow branch into 50mm S/S powerflow exhaust
Tyre pressure: 2.5psi around town
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?:No
Aircon?:Seldomly used (Remember that open windows cause the same bad fuel consumption as an aircon)
Fuel consumption: 7.0km/l at 130km/h
Canopy?:

SuidWes · Post by **SuidWes** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:40 am

Fuel consumption: On average 7.0km/l

Vehicle: 1996 SFA Hilux D/cab
Km's on the clock: 196 000
Motor: 2.4L (22R) Petrol
Vehicle lift/ suspension: 50mm lift
Tyres: 265x15 Firestone ATX
Carb mod/ spacers?: No
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: No
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: Brospeed branch with 50mm ss exhaust
Tyre pressure: 2.2bar
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Yes and frequently used.
Canopy?:

Post by **Family_Dog** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:48 am

Good thread. I have added a diff-lock choice. Let's use this for the template:

Vehicle:
Km's on the clock:
Motor:
Vehicle lift/ suspension:
Tyres:
Carb mod/ spacers?:
Air filter:
Snorkel?:
EFI?:
Cam cut?:
Exhaust mod?:
Tyre Type & Size?:
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads:
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?:
Aircon?:
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?:
Canopy?:
Other Mods?:

CONSUMPTION:

Knersus · Post by **Knersus** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:49 am

Hi lux 95 D/C with canopy
2.4 Petrol with 214 000km
Air con is a must in our area so it is always on
OME suspension
265/15 Good Year Wranglers
Head flown and cam cutted
S/S Flee flow exhause system and branch
Snorkel with donaldson air filter
(Uitskiet stoel met valskerm :D )
Canopy?: Yes

Fuel consuption on last trip was 4.7 km/l at 120 km/h avarage 3.3 km/l in mountain passes low range and when returning back to Upington I had a craked branch and I was hitting it 140-150km/h and it gave 5.7km/l

I had the branch replaced but could not do a test again. At this stage it looks like this hi lux likes to run hard.

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:04 am

Variations in consumption do not only depend on engine tuning, mechanical variations, shape, and load of the vehicle, but primarily on how hard you drive and speed.

When I push my vehicle hard my consumption drops far below my average, whereas if I drive around a game park at 30 km per hour improves dramatically, to as much as 9,5 km/lt.

Sifu-Lux · Post by **Sifu-Lux** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:27 pm

FIRST 2 YEARS WITH 4Y

Vehicle: 1991 SFA Hilux Double Cab
Km's on the clock: 230 000
Motor: 2.2L 4Y Petrol ( sub assembly done at 160 000kms)
Vehicle lift/ suspension: OME leaf springs and shocks
Tyres: 245/75R15 (30") ContiTrac AT's
Carb mod/ spacers?:No, Standard
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: No
Cam cut?:No
Exhaust mod?:Powerflow Freeflow exhaust
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads, 2 bar the rear and 2 bar in the front.
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?:No
Aircon?:Used occasionally
Canopy?:

CONSUMPTION:Because this is my "toy" I only really use it to go playing in the bush and to take the garden rubbish to the tip once a month.
Consumption was around 6km/L.

AFTER CONVERSION TO FORD V6

Vehicle: 1991 SFA Hilux Double Cab
Km's on the clock: 236 000
Motor: 3.0L Ford ESSEX V6 Petrol ( complete rebuild at 234 000kms)
Vehicle lift/ suspension: OME leaf springs and shocks
Tyres: 265/75R15 (31") Continental World Contact 4x4
Carb mod/ spacers?:No, Standard Weber 38DGAS
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: No
Cam cut?:No
Exhaust mod?:Powerflow Freeflow exhaust
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads, 2 bar the rear and 2 bar in the front.
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?:No
Aircon?:Used occasionally
Canopy?:

CONSUMPTION:Because this is my "toy" I only really use it to go playing in the bush and to take the garden rubbish to the tip once a month.
Consumption with V6 was around 4km/L while running in and setting up the carb.
Now after ~2000km it is around 5km/L but I'm sure this can be improved once I get it to a Weber carb expert. Again, it is mainly offroad, low range consumption figures.

leonbrink · Post by **leonbrink** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:22 am

I will do the first Diesel :)

Vehicle: 1985 D/C Hilux
Km's on the clock: 1st clock - est330k, current - 365k
Motor: 3 Liter Diesel (5L)
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Full OME
Tyres: BFG 31x10.5 MT
Carb mod/ spacers?: N/A
Air filter: Standard
Snorkel?: Yes (Safari)
EFI?: N/A
Cam cut?: N/A
Exhaust mod?: N/A
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2.3 Bar
Permanent roof rack/ tent etc?: No
Air con?: Not yet
Diff lock (orig/after-fit)?: No
Bumper Replacement?: ARB (winch bar)
Winch?: No
Canopy?:
CONSUMPTION: Town and Highway 9km/l, off road 7.5 - 8 km/l

Added bumper replacement and winch, think that can also influence consumption

Post by **Family_Dog** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:06 pm

**Edit: The changes have been reflected in Red BOLD print**

First, BULLDOG, the SFA:

Vehicle: 1987 Hilux DC Import
Km's on the clock: 306,000Km

Motor: 4Y Petrol, Chinese replacement
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Full lift OME, 6 springs rear, 5 springs front
Tyres: Dunlop Trackmaster 245
Carb mod/ spacers?: Weber 36 DC
Air filter: Standard Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: Retrofitted
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: Twin branch from Manifold (I got her like that)
TYRES: Cooper 31" STT Mud Tyres
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: Front 1.8, Rear: 2.0
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Yes, always on in Summer
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: ARB rear
Canopy?: Yes, F/Glass Executop "S"

CONSUMPTION: 5.6km/l (BEFORE EFI Conversion, at Â±110Km/Hr)
CONSUMPTION: Â±8.5Km/l (Estimated, but could be even better) AFTER EFI Conversion, at Â±110Km/Hr

Then WHITE FANG, the 2.7:

Vehicle: 1999 Hilux DC Raider
Km's on the clock: 43,600Km
Motor: 2.7i
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Full lift OME kit
Tyres: Cooper 31' x 10.5 x 15, standard alloy rims
Carb mod/ spacers?: N/A
Air filter: Standard Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: Standard
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: No
TYRES: Cooper 31" AT Tyres
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: Front 1.8, Rear: 2.0
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Yes, always on in Summer
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: Standard Toyota on rear
Canopy?: F/Glass, Executop

CONSUMPTION: 7 - 7.5 km/l (I received 8.3Km/Hr with three Adults en route to Sani Pass, at average 120Km/Hr GPS Speed)

-F_D

Martin · Post by **Martin** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:16 pm

Hi all,

I see Family Dog has given his 2.7's consumption, so here goes:-

Vehicle: 2004 Hilux DC Raider
Km's on the clock: 70,100Km
Motor: 2.7i
Vehicle lift/ suspension: No lift / Iron Man Nitros Gas Shocks
Tyres: BFG A/T 30' x 9.5 x 15, standard alloy rims
Carb mod/ spacers?: N/A
Air filter: Standard
Snorkel?: Yes
EFI?: Standard
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: Stainless Freeflow
Tyre pressure around: 2.2 front and back
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: canopy
Aircon?: Yes, used frequently
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: Standard Toyota on rear
Replacement bumper: ONCA
Canopy?:
CONSUMPTION: 6.5 - 7 km/l, this is driving no faster than 130km/h, keeping revs down to 3500rpm. In May, went to Fish River canyon, myself and 3 passengers (all got a turn to drive), we were in a bit of a hurry, averaged 5.8km/l, on that trip.

Cheers,

Martin.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:09 pm

Hi Martin, and welcome to the Forum :) Please post some pics of your Hilux when you get a chance in the "Member's Rides" section.

Bryan Weber's experience is that the "face lift" Hiluxes do have worse consumption figures than the first generation 2.7i's, apparently some minor changes were made to the engine or management system. I normally travel at 120 - 130Km/Hr true (GPS) speed, and the effect of the bigger tyres is to narrow the over-reading margin that the 2.7i speedometer has i.r.o. true speed.

Funny thing was when I first bought the Hilux back then, I towed a 15 foot Gypsey 3 caravan, full height model, to Port Nolloth and back at an average speed of 100 - 110 km/hr and I also avaraged about 7km/l, so I was a bit disappointed that the consumption didn't really improve much. I had only about 500Km on the speedo at that time.

As an after thought, I have added a "Canopy - yes/no" and maybe the make option to the original template.

-F_D

Tycoon · Post by **Tycoon** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:47 pm

Vehicle: 1981 Hilux dc. on RN series chassis
Km's on the clock:+/-165000 Overhauled +/-30000 back
Motor: 3L ford V6
Vehicle lift/ suspension: 50mm body lift and 2" suspension lift
Tyres: Bridgstone Duler A/T 31/10.5/15
Carb mod/ spacers?:
Air filter: Donaldson from John Deere 2651
Snorkel?: no
EFI?: no
Cam cut?: Yes
Exhaust mod?: ss Free flow std manifolds
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: Front 1.9 rear 1.8bar
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: no
Aircon?: no
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?:no
Canopy?:no
CONSUMPTION: town driving 5-6Km/l open road at 110-120Km/h(gps) 120-130Clocks 6-7.5Km/l depending on load. Drops to 5.5km/l towing with rt.tent and roofrack.

I find wind to be a major factor to fuel consumption as the lux has the aero dynamics of a Tuscan town house.

DOELLOOS · Post by **DOELLOOS** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:06 pm

Well, I have three cars of which the Hilux is one. I will post fuel consumption on all three here.

Nissan Patrol
Vehicle: 2007 Nissan Patrol 4.8 GRX
Km's on the clock: 18,000km
Motor: 4.8litre straight six 24 valve
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Standard
Tyres: 275/65/17
Carb mod/ spacers: None
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel: No
EFI: Yes
Cam cut: No
Exhaust mod: No
Tyre pressure: Front 1.9 rear 1.8bar
Roofrack/ tent etc: No
Aircon: Yes
Difflock (orig/afterfit): Yes
Canopy: No
CONSUMPTION: 3.8 km/l no matter how we drive. Thirstier than I am.

Toyota Land Cruiser
Vehicle: 2007 Toyota Land Cruiser 70 SW
Km's on the clock: 8,000km
Motor: 4.2litre diesel
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Standard
Tyres: 265/60/16
Carb mod/ spacers: None
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel: No
EFI: No
Cam cut: No
Exhaust mod: No
Tyre pressure: Front 1.9 rear 1.8bar
Roofrack/ tent etc: No
Aircon: Yes
Difflock (orig/afterfit): Yes
Canopy: No
CONSUMPTION: 5.0 km/l

Toyota Hilux
Vehicle: 1994 Toyota Hilux DC Raider 4x4
Km's on the clock: 235,000km
Motor: 7M-GTE Supra Turbo
Vehicle lift/ suspension: 60mm body lift, 50mm suspension lift
Tyres: 33" BF Goodrichs
Carb mod/ spacers: None
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel: No
EFI: Yes
Cam cut: No
Exhaust mod: No
Tyre pressure: Front 1.9 rear 1.8bar
Roofrack/ tent etc: No
Aircon: No
Difflock (orig/afterfit): No
Canopy: No
CONSUMPTION: 6.0 km/l

Post by **Family_Dog** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:25 pm

Ewald,

The consumption figure of your 70 SW intrigues me... most people are reporting about 10km to the litre, although they do say initially the consumption was lower when the vehicle was still running in. I hope that's the scenario in your case.

-F_D

DOELLOOS · Post by **DOELLOOS** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:25 pm

Normal driving sees me getting 5.5km/l, but that is moderate. I have had 6.8km/l once, but the 10km/l sounds like a fairytale to me.

I'll keep you posted... maybe it will get better, but I doubt it.

Cookie Monster · Post by **Cookie Monster** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:36 pm

Vehicle: 1990 D/C Hilux
Km's on the clock: 270 000km
Motor: 4y 2.2
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Un known but higher then normal :o)

Tyres:Cooper Discoverer STT 30`s
Carb mod/ spacers?: Standard Nikki
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: non)
EFI?: non
Cam cut?: Standard
Exhaust mod?: Standard
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2.2 Bar
Permanent roof rack/ tent etc?: No
Air con?: Not conected
Diff lock (orig/after-fit)?: No
Bumper Replacement?: Bull Bar
Winch?: No
Canopy?:No and no sail
CONSUMPTION: Town and Highway 6.5km/l

Planed modes electronic ignition hould make things a little better

ToyX4 · Post by **ToyX4** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:03 pm

Vehicle: 2005 2.5D4D SRX S/C
Km's on the clock: 53 000km
Motor: 2.5 Turbo Diesel
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Spacers on front coils
Tyres: 245/75/16 Cooper ST
Carb mod/ spacers?: N/A
Air filter: OE
Snorkel?: TJM Airtech
EFI?: Yes
Cam cut?: N/A
Exhaust mod?: No
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2 bar Front/ 1.8 Bar rear
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Yes, always on!
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: OE rear Difflock
Bumper replacement?: Front and rear
Winch?: Not yet
Canopy?: No
CONSUMPTION: Avg about 9.2 km/l on the farm and to town, haven't done much highway driving.
9.5 to 9.8 open road long distance

Post by **pietpetoors** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:55 pm

Vehicle: 1999 2.7i D/C 4x4
Km's on the clock: 343,000
Motor: 2.7 3RZ Petrol
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Original
Tyres: 31" Cooper ST
Air filter: GUD
Snorkel?: YES
EFI?: YES
Cam cut?:No
Exhaust mod?:NO
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads, 2.2 bar front and rear. Gravel road 1.8 Bar front and rear
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?:NO
Aircon?:Hardly ever used
Canopy?:NO
CONSUMPTION:On average get 7.3km/l . Got 6 km/l once when in a hurry . Got 8.1km/l driving gravel road at about 80km/h-100km/h during our karoo trip.

HiluxJunkie · Post by **HiluxJunkie** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:33 pm

Vehicle: 1990 DC SFA
Km's on the clock: 211000 ( unconfirmed )
Motor: ( was a 2.2 4y but when I bought it it had 2.4 22R in )
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Standard
Tyres: 31" 10.5 x 15
Carb mod/ spacers?: Standard
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: No
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: No
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2 bar
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Yes, but not used
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: No
Canopy?: No
CONSUMPTION: 5.4 km/l in town at around 60 km/h

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:19 pm

Vehicle: 1990 DC SFA
Km's on the clock: 115000
Motor: 7M-GE
Vehicle lift/ suspension: 2" lift / OME suspension
Tyres: 33" Goodyear MTR
Carb mod/ spacers?: None
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: Yes
Cam cut?: Yes
Exhaust mod?: Yes
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2.2 bar
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Yes
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: Yes Lockrite Front Locker
Canopy?: Yes
CONSUMPTION:
With 33" tyres: 5.5 km/l in town @ 60km/h,
With 33" tyres: 6.5 km/l open road @ 120km/h

With 31" tyres: 7.2 km/l open road @ 120km/h as measured over 5700km on our Sani Pass trip in July 2009.

iHilux · Post by **iHilux** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:17 pm

Vehicle: 2007 2.5D4D SRX D/C 4x4
Km's on the clock: 3 500km
Motor: 2.5 Turbo Diesel
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Spacers on front coils
Tyres: 245/70/16 waiting for 245/75/16 Cooper STT
Carb mod/ spacers?: N/A
Air filter: OE
Snorkel?: None
EFI?: Yes
Cam cut?: N/A
Exhaust mod?: No
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2 bar Front/ 2 Bar rear
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Yes
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: OE rear Difflock
Bumper replacement?: Not yet
Winch?: No
Canopy?: Yes
CONSUMPTION: Avg 11.4 km/l in town and open road.

SYRON CONVERSIONS · Post by **SYRON CONVERSIONS** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:28 pm

Vehicle: 1992 Toyota Hilux single cab 4x4
Km's on the clock: 215 000
Motor: 4Y 2.2
Vehicle lift/ suspension: 3" chassis lift, 75mm body lift, revolver shackles at the rear,
Tyres: Bridgestone muds 33" x 1250 x 15" mounted to 8J steel rims
Carb mod/ spacers?: What spaces are these?
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: Yes, inlet facing backwards
EFI?: No
Cam cut?: not sure
Exhaust mod?: Free flow and branches
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 1.8 bars
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: Duel roll bars
Aircon?: No
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: Front and rear ARB Lockers air activated.
Canopy?: Canvas Canopy Rhino but do not use often, fits over the dual roll bars.
CONSUMPTION. In town 6km per liter, open road tar 7.km per liter, off-road 2km per liter, but like what somebody once told me, if he puts in R300. worth of petrol he gets R300. worth so what?

Other mod to consider Marlin crawler kit fitted to the transfer case and the single solid rear propshaft, done away with the two piece rear propshaft.

The reason why I say that I do not know if the cam has been cut is because the performance of this engine is fantastic, a few years back, an old "friend" well I thought he was my friend, anyway he tried to keep up with my Hilux with his 22R 2.4 fuel injection engine that he had fitted to his Hilux which was a double cab and was shocked that he could not. Thus there must be some mods done there, have not had to open her up yet to have a look, these 4Y engine if looked after correctly are bullet proof.

Fireman · Post by **Fireman** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:29 pm

[quote="Family_Dog"]Good thread. I have added a diff-lock choice. Let's use this for the template:

Vehicle:89 Hilux DC 4x4
Km's on the clock:+320 000
Motor:2.8i 5mg-e
Vehicle lift/ suspension:40mm
Tyres:245/75/15 Conti
Carb mod/ spacers?:no
Air filter:standard
Snorkel?:no
EFI?:yes
Cam cut?:no
[b]Exhaust mod?:free flow
[b]Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads:250 front 220 back
[b]Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?:no
[b]Aircon?:no
[b]Difflock (orig/afterfit)?:yes, front
[b]Canopy?:yes, high roof
[b] Other Mods?:winch

[b]CONSUMPTION:with an open sand bucket free standing on the back seat - 8km/l, without 6.5 km/l and running 150-160 on clock open road

TopHilux Hilton · Post by **TopHilux Hilton** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:44 pm

Vehicle: '94 Hilux DC
Km's on the clock: 190 000 (I think way more though)
Motor: 3.0 KZTE
Vehicle lift/ suspension: No
Tyres: 31" BFG Muds
Carb mod/ spacers?:
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: Yes, Airtech
EFI?: (No,it's a diesel) But 3000D fuelpump to replace ECU on KZTE fuelpump.
Cam Cut ?: No
Exhaust mod?: TNT Freeflow.
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2.4 Bar
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: Yes, RTT and Roofrack
Aircon?: Doesnt work..!!!
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: No Diff-Locks (It's for m-*-f-f-i-e-s...

)
Canopy?: Yes
Other Mods?: Warn winch and NudgeM bullbar

CONSUMPTION: 7.5- 8.5 km/l. depending on driving style. lately it's going down even a bit more.... :?

Post by **JohanM** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:48 pm

Ok guys, this is a very interesting topic and we will be able to discuss this at lenghts.

So now, don't laugh at my fuel consumption.

Vehicle: 1989 SFA Hilux Double Cab (Import)
Km's on the clock: 223 000
Motor: 2.2L 4Y Petrol - Rebuilt inframe @ 194000 km's
Vehicle lift/ suspension: OME leaf springs and shocks
Tyres: 31" BF Goodrich All Terrain
Carb mod/ spacers?:No, Standard
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: yes, Safari
EFI?: No
Cam cut?:Yes
Exhaust mod?: Brospeed Freeflow exhaust, branch fitted, Gasflowed Cyl head with bigger inlet Stainless steel valves
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads, 1.9psi in the rear and 2psi in the front.
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?:No
Aircon?:Used regularly
Canopy?: Fitted on long trips, not around here, running open bak.

CONSUPTION: Depending on my Size 12 right foot varies from 8 km/l at 90 km/h to 6 km/h at 130 - 155 km/h. Usually gets about 6.9 km/l combined town driving and open road driving.

ratel's raider · Post by **ratel's raider** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:57 pm

Vehicle: 1995 SFA Hilux single cab
Km's on the clock: 265 000
Motor: 22R 2.4 L
Vehicle lift/ suspension: None/ Std springs but sagging badly, upgrade next year
Tyres: a) 31" BF goodrich AT, b) Dunlop universal marie biscuits (very heavy)
Carb mod/ spacers?: , Std.
Air filter: Std.
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: N/A
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: Free Flow
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2 bar
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Broken
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: No
Canopy?:No
Other Mods?: Double batt. system, 6 spotlights

CONSUMPTION: I change my tyres around quite a bit, With the marie biscuits town driving 6km/L: open road 120km/h 8km/L. With the 31" town 7km/L ;open road 9km/L. The Marie biscuits are very very heavy, with split rims and tubes which affects consumption more than I thought it would.

Miellie · Post by **Miellie** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:47 pm

This is great guys.
I'm looking at buying a Toyota Hilux 2.7i 4x4 DC now and was hoping someone could help me out with the fuel consumption question.
I found what I was looking for, thanx
Can hopefully get one before Dec holiday.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:06 pm

Hi Emile,

They are great vehicles, and very capable! And they go on forever... the 2.7i engine is a masterpiece of engineering and very under-stressed. Good luck with your choice.

-F_D

Skydive · Post by **Skydive** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:42 pm

Vehicle: 1996 Toyota Hilux Raider D/C
Km's on the clock: 104 000 (engine has 74 000)
Motor: 2.7i 3RZ
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Full OME
Tyres: 31' Goodyear MTR's
Carb mod/ spacers?: None
Air filter: Donaldson
Snorkel?: Safari
EFI?: Yes
Cam cut?:No
Exhaust mod?:Stainless steel free flow and Wildcat Branches
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2 Bar
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: Roofrack
Aircon?: Yes
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: Front Detroit EZ Locker
Canopy?:Just took off an Outback Aluminium Canopy
Other Mods?:ARB Bar and Winch

CONSUMPTION:7.5 - 7.9 driving at 120 - 125. This drops quite a bit if speed goes above this.

Niel · Post by **Niel** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:59 pm

Emile, Godfather and PietPetoors both own DC 2.7 4X4, they should be able to help as well. I know PietPetoors mentioned that he got around 7km p/l. I think somewhere on the forum someone did post the fuel consumption of the 2.7. I know they are a bit thursty but they are great vehiles as Eric said.

Cedric · Post by **Cedric** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:11 pm

Vehicle; 1985 SFA Hilux D/C 2.2 motor
Kms on clock; 170,000
Vehicle suspension; Std
Tyres; 145's - retreads for local use
Carb mods; none
Air filter; Donaldson's
Snorkel; none
EFI; ?
Cam cut; none
Exhaust mods; freeflow, Std mainfold
Tyre pressure; 3 bar ( reading the others I will reduce to 2.5)
Roof rack; none
Aircon; disconnected
Difflock; none
canopy; yes
other mods; long range tank, spots. two way radio; interior seating; high lift jack

Consumption; 7.5 kms / lt on long trips @ approx 115/120 kms /hr; (I do'nt use the vehicle around town) It's not really comfortable doing 130 + kms/hr. In Lesotho @ 3000 meters up the consumption improved to =/- 11 kms /lt

Godfather · Post by **Godfather** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:01 pm

Vehicle: Hilux 2.7i RXS
Km's on the clock:160 000
Motor: 2.7i
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Raise rear with Mikem
Tyres: Good year 255.65.15
Carb mod/ spacers?: No
Air filter: standard
Snorkel?: no
EFI?:no
Cam cut?:no
Exhaust mod?:power flow. branch and free flow
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads:2 bar
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: no
Aircon?: yes but never use it
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: no
Canopy?:yes
Other Mods?: chip and diano tuned

CONSUMPTION: 8.33 km per litre

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:12 am

Anybody experienced better fuel consumption on the reef than at the coast? When I bought my 2.7 I got 8km/l in JHB. Down here I averaged between 7.2 and 7.5km/l. I went to Pretoria last week and when coming back, from JHB to Bloem at 120km/h to 130km/h I got 8km/l again and from Bloem to Calvinia at the same speed 7.8km/l. Back home, I am back at 7.2km/l. I think by now my driving style would be more or less the same.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:41 pm

Piet,

In general, fuel consumption is better up on the Reef than at the Coast. Don't know why, one of the boffins will need to explain. I would have expected it to be better at the Coast because of denser air should give a better spark. Maybe it is because the performance is so much nicer at the Coast one tends to put foot to the metal. more woema! ... dunno!

-F_D

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:02 pm

Pieter

you are not the 1st to realise this on a 2.7i Lux and Eric might not be too far of with his explanation.

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:15 pm

Not only on the lux, had exactly the same thing with the Terrano and PT Cruiser which we used when we came here. They were both turbo diesels.

Doctor V · Post by **Doctor V** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:07 pm

Vehicle: '93 SFA Double Cab
Km's on the clock: 276 000
Motor: 2.2L (4Y) Petrol
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Extra leaf in back - Gabriel Safari shocks for Land Cruiser.
Tyres: 245x15 Regal Safari
Carb mod/ spacers?: Standard
Air filter: Standard
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: No
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: Powerflow Branch and Freeflow
Tyre pressure: 2.2 front and back
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Yes - Used once in a blue moon - My aircon is the window at 120.
Canopy?:Yes - Beekman

Travelling Speed: 110 - 130 km/hr

City consumption 6-6.5km/l (drive lika a demon). Open road @120 7.5 -8km/l

Groblehh · Post by **Groblehh** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:50 pm

Vehicle: '96 Hilux D/C SFA
Km's on the clock: 245 000
Motor: 22R
Vehicle lift/ suspension: no
Tyres: 255/70/15
Carb mod/ spacers?: no
Air filter: standard
Snorkel?: no
EFI?: no
Cam cut?: no
Exhaust mod?: wildcat branch and freeflow
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2bar front and 1.8 rear
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: no
Aircon?: only open road
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: no
Canopy?: no
Other Mods?: no

CONSUMPTION: 5.5km/lt open road or in town (open road @ 130km/h)

Okkie Van Wyk · Post by **Okkie Van Wyk** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:59 pm

Vehicle: 1996 Hilux DC Raider
Km's on the clock: 126000Km
Motor: 2.7i
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Raised ?
Tyres: BFG 33' x 12.5 x 15, EXcel 4X4 alloy rims
Carb mod/ spacers?: N/A
Air filter: Standard Donaldson
Snorkel?: Yes
EFI?: Standard
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: Free Flow
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: Front 3, Rear: 3
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: Roof rack
Aircon?: Yes, always on in Summer
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: Standard Toyota on rear
Canopy?: Steel Front Runner
CONSUMPTION: 7 - 7.5 Have done 8.6 km/l

freeflyd · Post by **freeflyd** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:44 pm

Vehicle: 89 DC Import
Km's on the clock: 266 000Km
Motor: 2.2 4Y
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Ironman 5cm lift
Tyres: Firestone ATX
Carb mod/ spacers?: Weber 38
Air filter: Standard Donaldson
Snorkel?: no
EFI?: no
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: Free Flow
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: Front 2, Rear: 2.2
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: Roof rack
Aircon?: Yes, always on in Summer
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: no
Canopy?: SA Canopy Fiberglass
CONSUMPTION: 5.6 ish.. Seems bad1

Knersus · Post by **Knersus** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:55 pm

I have noted on my bakkie that when I stop there seems to be some blowing noice comming from the fuel cap. If I release the cap the pressure in the tank blows out but the air is always hot.

So I tried to investigate the problem and I have found that my petrol might be cooked away while I am driving :? Well this is what I think is happening as there are two fuel tanks and the exhause pype is running between them and actually very close to it as well. The tanks is heating up a lot and I do believe the fuel is cooking and vaporizing away

I went and buy myself a sheet of asbes cloth to see if I can shield away the heat. It took double layers and used silicone to stick it onto the tank.

It seems to work as there are no more high pressure buildup inside the tanks but can not say if the bakkie will be better on fuel consumpsion.

Dink julle die petrol kan verdamp of het ek die storie dalk heeltemal verkeerd

dalkill · Post by **dalkill** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:32 pm

I was wondering if there is anyone on this forum with a +-1999 3.0D non turbo.

According to um.co.za, they apparently use +-7l / 100km on higway. COuld this be?? Makes me rethink my strategy to look for 2.7 and go for this instead.

But I heard this model is as slow and underpowered as the SFA hilux. Is this true. Also is the saving on fuel consumption worth buying a diesel, with lacking performance, worth the costs of increased maintanance - my machi suggested an oil and filter change every 5000km.

Post by **CasKru** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:17 pm

Shakir.... according to my knowledge the 3.0D is the worst engine Toyota ever produced and is the most prone to failure etc. m2cw

Post by **Family_Dog** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:38 pm

As Cassie says.

Furthermore, it battles to reach 120KM/Hr (up on the reef, anyway) and when it does do that, the consumption falls to about the same as the 2.7i motor. It also has not got a good resale value. Many of the 5L engines "lose their heads" at about 100,000Km, no matter how it's driven. It is underpowered. A KZTE would be a far better buy, but the 2.7i is probably the best all-rounder for power and longevity.

-F_D

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:28 pm

Eric

Your buddy Wade is going to be very upset with you

Post by **Family_Dog** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:47 pm

Nah.....!

His new D4D cannot be compared to a 5L !!

-F_D

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:48 pm

Ya but he use to say his 5L was the best thing since sliced bread

Post by **Family_Dog** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:51 pm

Wade had the 2.8, if I remember correctly? Don't think he had the 5L.

-F_D

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:54 pm

Well the 3L is even a worse donkey than the 5L

Post by **Family_Dog** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:11 pm

Might be, but it's very much more reliable!

My dog is yapping at the back (for the past half-hour) s'pose I'll have to go see what she's up to. Neighbour's cat or something... :evil:

-F_D

BenHur · Post by **BenHur** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:18 pm

3L and 5L are similar motora but both had problems when Turbo's were added

Post by **Family_Dog** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:26 pm

I think they were both derived from the standard 2.4D blocks that Toyota just bored larger. Less metal to conduct heat away. Trying to give the Hilux more power compared, probably, to the Isuzus of the time. Bad, bad move.

It was the neighbour's cat. Hooligan of a dog that I have, trapped the poor kitty on top of the old pinball machine in the summer house.

-F_D

Niel · Post by **Niel** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:53 pm

dalkill wrote:But I heard this model is as slow and underpowered as the SFA hilux. Is this true.

The 3.0 d was a great motor but as the others said slow and sluggish on road, off road it was good and had the low down power. Then Toyota brought out the 3.0td (stay the hell away) and the turbo's and heads was a problem. Thereafter they brought out the 3.0 KZTE and in their first year they were a problem as well (cracked heads) thereafter plain sailing.

JBurger · Post by **JBurger** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:34 pm

Vehicle: KZ-TE 4x4
Km's on the clock: 100 000
Motor: 3l
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Std
Tyres: Std
Carb mod/ spacers?: N/A (SAC Intercooler with chip)
Air filter: Std
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: Diesel
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: No
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 2.5
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Mostly on
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: Orig
Canopy?: Permanent
Other Mods?: No

CONSUMPTION:
Best - 11.31km/l Port Shepstone - Umtata (Convoy with 2.5 Mazda, same consumption)
Worst - 7.04km/l (Day at Atlantis dunes, motor running all day and some high power sand driving sections)
Overall - 9.76km/l over 14 000km
Caravan - 8.31km/l Cape Town - Onrus (over Sir Louwry's pass) - Cape Town (via Cape Hangklip)

Post by **JohanM** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:53 am

HIerdie is dalk so bietjie off topic, maar ek gaan my verbruik meet op my SFA Vrydag.

Ek ry vanaf Paarl tot in Parys Vrydag middag en aand. Die voertuig is volgelaai +/- 350kg agter in die kappie.

Die doel is om teen so 100-110 km/h te ry en te kyk of ek so 7.5 km/l kan kry. Ek wil probeer om net 2 keer vol te maak langs die pad, alhoewel dit dalk `n stretch kan wees met `n 65l tenk.

Ek sal julle laat weet sodra ek alles uitgewerk het en dit hierso post.

Werner · Post by **Werner** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:32 pm

Vehicle: '97 D\C SFA
Km's on the clock: 190 000
Motor: 22R
Vehicle lift/ suspension: Std
Tyres: 31"x10.5"x15"
Carb mod/ spacers?: No
Air filter: Std
Snorkel?: No
EFI?: No
Cam cut?: No
Exhaust mod?: Power Flow Branch and Exhaust
Tyre pressure Around town with lighter loads: 1.8-2.0
Permanent roofrack/ tent etc?: No
Aircon?: Mostly off
Difflock (orig/afterfit)?: No
Canopy?: Permanent
Other Mods?: None

CONSUMPTION:
Open Road doing 120-130 Km\h : 7-8 Km/l
Town - Not driving like and old women: 6-6.5 Km/l

Knersus · Post by **Knersus** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:13 am

Nee wat ek raak moedeloos as ek sien wat julle bakkies se verbruik is. Ek kry 5.3 km/l teen 110-120km/h en 5.8km/l teen 130-140km/h. :| Ek weet nie meer wat om te doen nie want of ek stadig ry en jaag daar is geen verskil nie

In teendeel lyk dit my hoe harder ek ry hoe beter, en met die huidige petrol pryse gaan ek maar my bakkie laat staan en met die platkar ry

Enige raad wat om te doen om die verbruik beter te kry sal sal goed wees :!:

Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:43 pm

It happened again this holiday: I was driving about 400km of gravel road in the Calitzdorp/Ladismith area this holiday. I was mostly cruising at about 80 to 90 and I got 8.3 km/l. When doing between 120 and 130 I still get 7.3km/l