Cold start-up idling not the same

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:06 am

Morning everybody,

Im not sure if the Swine-flue got into my Hilux, or if it was the recent mud, but she doesnt want to idle at cold start. Normally, the bakkie would idle at around 2000rpm for a while - then drop down to normal idling speed. Now, nothing - i have to keep my foot on the petrol after i swing the key and wait till she decides she`s warm enough to idle on her own.....

Any thoughts, please help?

oh - i should also add, the airduct between the carburator and airfilter is broken again. I checked the engine mountings, all ok - but during rev`ing the airduct is under massive stress indicating a blockage in the airfilter side, but its a new filter? ... :wth:

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:56 am

Klonkies wrote:
oh - i should also add, the airduct between the carburator and airfilter is broken again. I checked the engine mountings, all ok - but during rev`ing the airduct is under massive stress indicating a blockage in the airfilter side, but its a new filter? ... :wth:

Peekchaz asblf :!: :shifty:

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:14 am

??translate please??

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:22 am

Mehl... it very possible that the fact that your engine won't fast idle on start-up is directly related to the restricted airflow... if the engine isn't breathing properly it aint going to idle properly...

B

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:22 am

Very easy Mehl, he wants you to take a picture of your bakkie not idling.... Please be sure to capture the coldness and the lack of idling when taking the picture in order to allow the experts to pin-pont your problem by looking at what is or is not in the picture.

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:30 am

OH? ... sorry i missed that one...

guess i should use the flash too otherwise i might just discover another problem hey?!

but serious, i opened up the air filter bracket and found nothing restricting air flow... could be that the filter got wet during the last Dirt and Dust weekend, but could that muddy waterstill restrict the filter now that its dry??

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:34 am

no man..

Take a peekcha of the pippie that's coming undone;

then we can CLEARLY see the oily rag your lousy mechanic left inside there

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:42 am

just take the filter out and see if it still does not want to idle... then you'll know whether it is the filter restricting the airflow or not. oh and remember to take a picture of the filter as well...

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:44 am

Thanx Thys, but i tried that too - still no difference... must be the swine flue!

Will take pics of it all tonight ...

Dadz Toy BFI · Post by **Dadz Toy BFI** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:59 am

Klonkies wrote:Thanx Thys, but i tried that too - still no difference... must be the swine flue!

Will take pics of it all tonight ...

Hey, Caution......... :!: :!:

Wear a strong elbow length leather glove (on your non camera hand)

if that's a K&N Air Filter in there you'll soon find the small bird/dassie that's living in your air pipe

(shouldn't be anything bigger than a chiwawa.....promise)

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:00 am

Try and blow the air filter out with compressed air, from the inside out... if that doesn't work...

Take a picture of it... that might fix it!

It's also possible you got a bit of muck on the linkages of the carb, and the fast idle cam is now not engaging... try clean the carb exterior with a tin of carb cleaner... let it dry and spray with something like WD40/WynFlon to lube the bits again!

To test it the fast idle is engaging depress the petrol pedal all the way and release slowly, before starting the engine... this assists the fast idle cam to engage...

B

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:25 am

hope i capture what fly`s out of the pipe with that massive glove on! ... maybe i should get a tri-pod?

well, if all else fails - hope the birdy, tampon, or oil rag allow me to drive to AEW..besides i dont think my dog will be soo friendly with any other animals in "his" bakkie! :D

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:37 am

drive to AEW

Your best bet for a quick solution to your problem.... and maybe even a pie...

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:53 am

think im taking your advice - im hearing such alot of these pies!

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:49 pm

Got this problem sorted yet Mehl?

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:04 am

Not yet, will be dropping the bakkie by Allen next week - but i went back a few times for more pies...

I see KASPAAS is on a set of 31`s ?...

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:51 am

Kaspaas has his Ballet shoes on at the moment... To quote a famous philosopher "we are going to a ballet shop next to get some nice tutu's and then we go dancing, no eye-gouging, no tackling and we all have a good time".. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Kaspaas lyk sexy ne?

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:57 am

nogal, sy lyk heel "transformed" met dai mooi mag

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:17 am

Moenie worry nie, as ons terugkom trek hy weer sy toks aan..

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:32 am

Driving through dust and mud eventually clogs the choke and "idle up" links on the side of the carb where all the links are.
Some carb cleaner and spook pis (Q20) should do the trick.
The idle up adjustment on the 22R is hidden, you have to floor the throttle (engine swithed off) and look just left and below the normal idle adjustment screw, turn it in a half a turn at a time and check it.
Take the air filter top off and make sure the choke flap closes when it's cold (you have to floor the throtle to activate it)

Phone "Racers edge" or one of these "look fast go slow" shops and replace the intake hose with silicone bends, it's still cheaper than Toyota and it will last longer.

Evert Deyzel · Post by **Evert Deyzel** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:14 pm

Weet iemand dalk waar mens van hierdie silicone pyp in pretoria kan kry?
My airintake pyp is ook gaar.
En watse diameter moet mens kry, ek het n 4y?

Dankie
Evert

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:38 pm

Thanx Allen,
i stripped the air filter off and checked the linkages next to the carb already, will do the rest tomorrow....Going fishing tonight, so lets hope i catch something else than a cold/flue

As for the intake hose, im doing a "m'cgyver" with my hose - will send pics if i get it right, might even have to patent it before sending the pics ne?

...

but should it not work, i know where to go hey...

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:45 pm

Klonkies wrote:Going fishing tonight

Jou tjommie se cousin??

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:48 pm

NEE Thys, regte vis - uit die see!

...but i like the way you think....

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:54 pm

Wag - laat ons nou die Namibia dame uit die forumn se gesprekkies hou toe? ... dink nou, wat as een van haar broers die Forumn join en die goed lees??

dai manne se hande is soo groot soos olifant pote -

- ek hoor as hy jou mis klap dan val jy om van die wind.... nee dankie, liefde-lewe en genot is my motto!...

besides, wie gaan my Hilux erf?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:57 pm

nee is reg so ... hier is die gatsby nou...

Klonkies · Post by **Klonkies** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:05 pm

Thys, sal jy nie n snorkel op KASPAAS sit nie?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:17 pm

nope, ek oorweeg dit nie eers nie.. ek het 'n "arm man se snorkel"... Kyk hier...

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